National ID + MicroChip - If We Fall For This We're Screwed

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Steven Van Fleet, an executive at International Paper, looks forward to the prospect. "We'll put a radio frequency ID tag on everything that moves in the North American supply chain," he enthused recently.

The ultimate goal is for RFID to create a "physically linked world" in which every item on the planet is numbered, identified, catalogued, and tracked. And the technology exists to make this a reality. Described as "a political rather than a technological problem," creating a global system "would . . . involve negotiation between, and consensus among, different countries." Supporters are aiming for worldwide acceptance of the technologies needed to build the infrastructure within the next few years.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Keep a close eye on it Furion, that's what you Canadians should be protesting against. Amero? I don't think so. Amero = the end of Canada, Mexico, and the United States as we once knew them.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Once again, poor to no research done here by another regular of the conspiracy forum elite.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
If I was you, I would keep an eye on the North American Union then, because if that comes into reality, Canada's citizens will be carded and chipped as well.

Keep a close eye on it Furion, that's what you Canadians should be protesting against. Amero? I don't think so. Amero = the end of Canada, Mexico, and the United States as we once knew them.


Then off to the desert island I go.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Once again, poor to no research done here by another regular of the conspiracy forum elite.

Don't jump the gun there Kharma, I never said the Amero was actually in place just yet. Is it in the works? I believe so. As do many others. Are there plans for a North American Union with a single curreny? Absolutely. Can it be 100% proved as of yet? No.....but give it time.

It is impossible to have a One World Government with almost total control over lives of the poplulation of the World without first controlling the World's monetary system and uniting the currency of the World. The people in power know this. Therefore it is almost inevitable that they will attempt to do this.

Does that mean that the final name of the North American Currency will be called the Amero? Of course not. But who cares what it's called. It's just the first step before they would try to combine all the World's currency into one. Which would mean that they would have achieved their goal of total slavery under the command of a few.

Though many RFID proponents appear focused on inventory and supply chain efficiency, others are developing financial and consumer applications that, if adopted, will have chilling effects on consumers' ability to escape the oppressive surveillance of manufacturers, retailers, and marketers. Of course, government and law enforcement will be quick to use the technology to keep tabs on citizens, as well.

The European Central Bank has been quietly working to embed RFID tags in the fibers of Euro banknotes since 2005. The tag allows money to carry its own history by recording information about where it has been, thus giving governments and law enforcement agencies a means to literally "follow the money" in every transaction. If and when RFID devices are embedded in banknotes, the anonymity that cash affords in consumer transactions will be eliminated.

Hitachi Europe wants to supply the tags. The company has developed a smart tag chip that--at just 0.3mm square and as thin as a human hair -- can easily fit inside of a banknote. Mass-production of the new chip is currently underway.

RFID would expand marketers' ability to monitor individuals' behavior to undreamt of extremes. With corporate sponsors like Wal-Mart, Target, the Food Marketing Institute, Home Depot, and British supermarket chain Tesco, as well as some of the world's largest consumer goods manufacturers including Proctor and Gamble, Phillip Morris, and Coca Cola it may not be long before RFID-based surveillance tags begin appearing in every store-bought item in a consumer's home.

According to a video tour of the "Home of the Future" and "Store of the Future" sponsored by Proctor and Gamble, applications could include shopping carts that automatically bill consumers' accounts (cards would no longer be needed to link purchases to individuals), refrigerators that report their contents to the supermarket for re-ordering, and interactive televisions that select commercials based on the contents of a home's refrigerator.

Now that shopper cards have whetted their appetite for data, marketers are no longer content to know who buys what, when, where, and how. As incredible as it may seem, they are now planning ways to monitor consumers' use of products within their very homes. RFID tags coupled with indoor receivers installed in shelves, floors, and doorways, could provide a degree of omniscience about consumer behavior that staggers the imagination.

Consider the following statements by John Stermer, Senior Vice President of eBusiness Market Development at ACNielsen:

"After bar codes the next 'big thing' was frequent shopper cards. While these did a better job of linking consumers and their purchases, loyalty cards were severely limited...consider the usage, consumer demographic, psychographic and economic blind spots of tracking data.... Something more integrated and holistic was needed to provide a ubiquitous understanding of on- and off-line consumer purchase behavior, attitudes and product usage. The answer: RFID (radio frequency identification) technology.... In an industry first, RFID enables the linking of all this product information with a specific consumer identified by key demographic and psychographic markers....Where once we collected purchase information, now we can correlate multiple points of consumer product purchase with consumption specifics such as the how, when and who of product use."

Marketers aren't the only ones who want to watch what you do in your home. Enter again the health surveillance connection. Some have suggested that pill bottles in medicine cabinets be tagged with RFID devices to allow doctors to remotely monitor patient compliance with prescriptions.

While developers claim that RFID technology will create "order and balance" in a chaotic world, even the center's executive director, Kevin Ashton, acknowledges there's a "Brave New World" feel to the technology. He admits, for example, that people might balk at the thought of police using RFID to scan the contents of a car's trunk without needing to open it.

The Center's co-director, Sanjay E. Sarma, has already begun planning strategies to counter the public backlash he expects the system will encounter.

NuclearWinter, please refrain from double-posting, or, in your case, quintuple posting.

Originally posted by Captain REX
NuclearWinter, please refrain from double-posting, or, in your case, quintuple posting.

Sure thing boss.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Don't jump the gun there Kharma, I never said the Amero was actually in place just yet. Is it in the works? I believe so. As do many others. Are there plans for a North American Union with a single curreny? Absolutely. Can it be 100% proved as of yet? No.....but give it time.

It is impossible to have a One World Government with almost total control over lives of the poplulation of the World without first controlling the World's monetary system and uniting the currency of the World. The people in power know this. Therefore it is almost inevitable that they will attempt to do this.

Does that mean that the final name of the North American Currency will be called the Amero? Of course not. But who cares what it's called. It's just the first step before they would try to combine all the World's currency into one. Which would mean that they would have achieved their goal of total slavery under the command of a few.

currency is largely irrelevant to banks and infact having a single currency is probably counter productive to the banks as the money they make charging interest on currency exchanges is phenomenal

Originally posted by General Zink
I think every time NuclearWinter makes more than two posts in a row, his threads should be closed.

oh really?

logic and common sense

something distinctly lacking in this thread...ironic that you used those words...ironic indeed

Originally posted by jaden101
currency is largely irrelevant to banks and infact having a single currency is probably counter productive to the banks as the money they make charging interest on currency exchanges is phenomenal

Jaden, your one liners are killing me man. Come up with something a little more substantial eh? Your arguement about "banks" has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I said under the command of a few. I never said the word "banks".

You would probably have to only be concerned with one bank anyways. One Major Central Bank, if they achieve their goal. But not all of the "few" would be bankers. Not at all.

I know that a Big Brother vision of the future sounds farfetched. I assure you that this seemingly impossible future is on the drawing board, and I promise that you will be convinced, too.

In a future world laced with RFID spychips, cards in your wallet could "squeal" on you as you enter malls, retail outlets, and grocery stores, announcing your presence and value to businesses. Reader devices hidden in the doors, walls, displays, and floors could frisk the RFID chips in your clothes and other items on your person to determine your age, sex, and preferences. Since spychip information travels through clothing, they could even get a peek at the color and size of your underwear.

I'm not joking. A major worldwide clothing manufacturer named Benetton has already tried to embed RFID chips into women's undergarments. And they would have gotten away with it, too, had it not been for an international outcry.

While consumers might be able to avoid spychipped clothing brands for now, they could be forced to wear RFID-enabled work clothes to earn a living. Already uniform companies like AmeriPride and Cintas are embedding RFID tracking tags into their clothes that can withstand high temperature commercial washings.

Don't have to wear a chipped uniform to work? Your RFID-enabled employee badge could do the spying instead. One day, these devices could tell management who you're chatting with at the water cooler and how long you've spent in the restroom and even whether or not you've washed your hands. There's already a product called iHygiene that can monitor the handwashing habits of RFID-tagged employees during bathroom visits.

Our next generation of workers could be conditioned to obediently accept this degrading surveillance through forced early exposure. Some schools are already requiring students to wear spychipped identification badges around their necks to keep closer tabs on their daily activities. If Johnny is one-minute late for math class, the system knows. It's always watching.

Retailers are thrilled at the idea of being able to price products according to your purchase history and value to the store. RFID will allow them to assess your worth as you pick up products and flash you a corresponding customer-specific price. Prime customers might pay three dollars for a staple like peanut butter while "bargain shoppers" or the economically challenged could be charged twice as much. The goal is to encourage the loyalty of shoppers who contribute to the profit margins while discouraging those who don't. After all, stores justify, why have unprofitable customers cluttering the store and breathing their air?

RFID chips embedded in passbooks and ATM cards will identify and profile customers as they enter bank lobbies, beaming bank balances to employees who will snicker at the customer with a mere thirty-seven dollars in the bank while offering white glove treatment to the high-rollers.

RFID could also be used to infringe upon civil liberties. The technology could give government officials the ability to electronically frisk citizens without their knowledge and set up invisible checkpoints on roads and in pedestrian zones to monitor their movements.

While RFID proponents claim they would never use RFID to track people, the fact is that they are not only considering it, they've done it. The United States government has already controlled people with RFID-laced bracelets—and not just criminals. And now they're planning to embed spychips in U.S. passports so citizens can be tracked as they move about airport terminals and cross international borders.

Hitting the open road will no longer be the "get away from it all" experience many of us crave. You may already be under surveillance, courtesy of your RFID-enabled highway toll transponder. Some highways, like those in the Houston area, have set up readers that probe the tag's information every few miles. But that's child's play compared to what they've got planned. The Federal Highway Administration is joining with states and vehicle manufacturers to promote "intelligent vehicles" that can be monitored and tracked through built-in RFID devices (Minority Report-style).

RFID spychips in your shoes and car tires will make it possible for strangers to track you as you walk and drive through public and private spaces, betraying your habits and the deepest secrets even your own mother has no right knowing. Pair RFID devices with global positioning (GPS) technology, and you could literally be pinpointed on the globe in real time, creating a borderless tracking system that already has law enforcement, governments, stalkers, and voyeurs salivating.

There will be no more secret love letters in the RFID world, either—not if the U.S. Postal Service has its way. They would like to embed every postage stamp with an RFID chip that would enable point-to-point tracking. Even more disturbingly, RFID could remove the anonymity of cash. Already, the European Union has discussed chipping Euro banknotes, and the Bank of Japan is contemplating a similar program for high-value currency. Your every purchase could be under the microscope.

So could your trash. In the RFID world, garbage will become a snoop's and criminal's best friend. Today, it's a dirty job sifting through diapers and table scraps to get at tell-tale signs of a household's market value, habits, and purchases. In the RFID world, scanning trash could be a simple as driving down the street with a car-mounted reader on trash day.

How about the "smart" house? Researchers have developed prototype "homes of the future" to showcase RFID-enabled household gadgets like refrigerators that know what's in them (and can tattletale to marketers), medicine cabinets that talk (to your doctor, government, and HMO), and floors that keep track of where you are at each moment. The potential is staggering. Your insurance company could remotely monitor your food consumption and set rates accordingly, health officials could track the prescription drugs you're taking, and attorneys could subpoena your home activity records for use against you in court.

Home RFID networks will allow family members to remotely track you during your "golden years," or times of incompetence, real or otherwise. Doors can remain bolted to keep you from wandering, toilets can monitor your bowel habits and transmit data to distant physicians, and databases can sense your state of mind. It's all under development and headed your way.

But chipping inanimate objects is just the start. The endpoint is a form of RFID that can be injected into flesh. Pets and livestock are already being chipped, and there are those who believe humans should be next. Incredibly, bars have begun implanting their patrons with glass-encapsulated RFID tags that can be used to pay for drinks. This application startles many Christians who have likened payment applications of RFID to biblical predictions about the Mark of the Beast, a number the book of Revelation says will be needed to buy or sell in the "end times."

While some of these applications are slated for our future, others are already here, right now—and they're spreading. Wal-Mart has mandated that its top one hundred suppliers affix RFID tags to crates and pallets being shipped to selected warehouses. Analysts estimate this one initiative alone has already driven close to $250 million worth of investment in the technology. Other retailers such as Albertsons, Target, and Best Buy have followed suit with mandates of their own. According to one industry analyst, there are now sixty thousand companies operating under RFID mandates and scrambling to get with the spychip program as quickly as possible.

Adding fuel to the fire, the Department of Defense is also requiring suppliers to use RFID. In fact, government cheerleaders can't fall over themselves fast enough to support the technology. The Department of Homeland Security is testing the use of RFID in visas, and the Social Security Administration is using spychips to track citizen files. Not to be outdone, the Food and Drug Administration wants RFID on all prescription drugs, and the makers of Oxycontin and Viagra have already begun to comply. The FDA has also approved the use of subcutaneous RFID implants for managing patient medical records the same implants being used to track bar patrons.

You may have already brought a spychip home with you. If you own a toll transponder or a Mobil Speedpass, you're interacting with RFID every time you use it. And if you bought Procter & Gamble's Lipfinity lipstick at a Wal-Mart in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, between March and June of 2003, you could have brought home a live RFID chip in the product packaging and unknowingly starred in a video, too!

P&G is not the only company that's tested spychips on unwitting consumers. Gillette was also caught tagging packages of Mach3 razor blades with some of the 500 million (that's half a billion!) RFID chips it put on order in early 2003. There's also evidence to suggest that other everyday products like Pantene Shampoo, Purina Dog Chow, and Huggies baby wipes may have been tagged with RFID chips and sold to unsuspecting consumers.

Why would anyone want to keep such close track on everyday objects? The answer is simple. Businesses want the technology to give them complete visibility of their products at all times. Having this real-time knowledge would allow them to keep products on store shelves and know precisely what's in their warehouses. They also believe it could help them fight theft and counterfeiting. Theoretically, it could even eliminate the checkstand, since doorways could scan your purchases automatically when you leave the store and charge them to an RFID-based account.

While some of these goals may sound appealing, the problem is what happens when spychipped products leave the store with us and find their way into other areas of our lives.

The seamy details that have been discovered make the spychipped future look more like the ending scene of a gut-wrenching Outer Limits episode.

One of the consumer privacy nightmares is for those little anti-theft tags (known in the industry as "EAS" tags) to someday be combined with individually trackable RFID chips and slipped into consumer products.

An article in the RFID Journal (posted below), reveals that Checkpoint Systems has actually developed a product tag that combines anti-theft and RFID tracking capabilities. The tags were at the RFID Journal Live! Conference in Orlando, Florida. What's more, Sensormatic, Checkpoint's only serious competitor, is running a whole conference session to describe the benefits of using this combined tracking technology.

This is beyond a doubt one of the most important and dangerous developments in the consumer privacy arena today. It means consumers may soon be buying, wearing, and carrying products tagged with RFID at the item level, because Checkpoint and Sensormatic specialize in hiding anti-theft tags deep inside of products, then distributing those products to nearly a million retail locations worldwide.

Now they want to do the same thing with RFID spychips. If they are not stopped, Checkpoint and Sensormatic will soon be hiding these dual-use tracking devices in your belongings, where they will be able to silently and secretly transmit information about you to marketers, criminals, and Big Brother.

This will be a consumer privacy nightmare and no one will even know it's happening. That's because industry lobbyists have prevented RFID labeling legislation from passing anywhere in the nation. There is no requirement that retailers or manufacturers tell us when they're hiding RFID tags in our clothes, shoes, books, or anything else.

Our only protection against this threat is the strength of our voices and the power of our protests.

Here is a list of the companies that have joined the RFID journal conferences:

Academy Sports & Outdoors
Albertsons
The ALDO Group
Anheuser-Busch
Best Buy
Blockbuster
Blommer Chocolate
Brass Eagle
CDW Corp.
Dreyer's Grand Ice Cream
Electrolux
Energizer Battery
Fuji Photo Film USA
The Gap
General Mills
Gillette Company
Hampton Products
Hasbro
Hershey Foods
Hewlett Packard (HP)
Hunter Fan
Hy-Vee, Inc.
Jockey International
Johnson & Johnson
Johnsonville Sausage
Kellogg Co.
Kimberly-Clark
Limited Brands
L'Oreal USA
Loblaws
Louisville Bedding
Lowe's Companies
Luxottica Retail
Maidenform Worldwide
Mars
Marubeni America
Masterfoods USA
McIlhenny Co.
Meyer Corp.
Nestle USA
Newell Rubbermaid
OfficeMax
Pacific Cycle
Payless Shoe Source
Pharmavite
Procter & Gamble
S. C. Johnson
SAKS Inc.
Sara Lee Foods
Schick
Scott Paper Limited
Sears
Sears Canada
Sherwin-Williams
Storekraft
Stride Rite Corp.
Tanimura & Antle
Target Corp.
The Valvoline Co.
Unilever
Wal-Mart
Walgreens
Wm Wrigley Jr Co
Wegmans

To learn more about the conference, and to see a video on it, see: http://www.rfidjournalevents.com/live/

Write to as many of these companies as you can. Let them know how strongly you oppose RFID spychips. When you're done writing an email, call their customer service lines for good measure. Send a fax, write snail mail, send a singing telegram. But whatever you do, don't take this lying down. We need everyone we can to put a stop to this.

I sense lawsuits in the horizan. Fvcking Goverment Pervs.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Jaden, your one liners are killing me man. Come up with something a little more substantial eh? Your arguement about "banks" has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I said under the command of a few. I never said the word "banks".

You would probably have to only be concerned with one bank anyways. One Major Central Bank, if they achieve their goal. But not all of the "few" would be bankers. Not at all.

i was referring specifically to your "amero" idea...if you want the perfect example of how a single currency doesn't makes slaves of the people as you claim...look at the Euro...it's been highly succesfull for all countries involved

as for stuff more substantial...if i dont need to use anything more than a single line to put paid to people's idiocy then why should i bother?

Originally posted by Furion
I live in Canada, So no microchip for me.

Furion, if you really want to know what they have planned for Canada, I suggest you watch the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

Let me know what you think eh?

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Furion, if you really want to know what they have planned for Canada, I suggest you watch the following video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

Let me know what you think eh?

I'm not about to watch a 2 hr and 20 minute video. Cut to the chase and list sources.