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Started by Soljer8 pages
Originally posted by carver9

Hell, I'll even go as far as saying that ironman is more powerful since he does have more power at his disposal then superman
Originally posted by King Kandy
Um like I said, Sentry alone can take this, he's already stalemated Galactus and this guy is below Galactus in every attribute except for powers.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... in other words... you think WWH would be able to do it even easier?
Originally posted by King Kandy
I never said that. It was PIS that WWHulk won and PIS isn't allowed on this forum.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Heh...

So, you believe it wouldn't be pis for Sentry to stalemate Galactus?

If you're being serious of course. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes given that him being Galactus level was already established, later showing where he is below his established levels are PIS.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Where was it established he's Galactus level?
Originally posted by King Kandy
It was established when Spiderman said it.

Kandy is the FOB of Sentry.

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WWH and Sentry at the end of WWH: are Galactus Level.
The World Breaker after Miek revelation is above that level.

Deal with it, troll.

Quite unbelievable
From thor vs superman

Many people say that Thor would win.

Here are some of their reasons:

1. Thor has magic and Superman is vulnerable to magic.
2. Thor is a god and Superman is not.
3. Thor has greater fighting skills than Superman.

In this post we’ll see that reasons (1) and (2) are faulty and that reason (3) is false.

Now let's examine them.

Reason 1

This is the most famous reason. The fact Superman is vulnerable to magic doesn’t imply that Superman is vulnerable to all magic. D.C. comic defines magic or magical energy as electromagnetic waves with a certain range of wavelength, as opposed to the more familiar meaning. Superman’s weakness is in the strength of his biomatrix. Its permeability to these wavelengths makes Superman vulnerable to certain radiations. In particular, the magical energy’s electromagnetic or extra-dimensional signature disrupts Superman’s force field. Superman’s vulnerability to magic also varies on the special effect of the magic. This implies that the magic in question depends on its incantation. For instance, if Superman were to get hit by lightning brought about from magical energy then the effect would be the same as him getting hit with regular lightning. This is because the magical energy was used to make real lightning. If the lightning that was made doesn’t have the exact properties of real lightning, then, by definition, it is not lightning but magical energy (a counterfeit). Thor’s hammer Mjolnir, does possess magical energy, and its incantation is the following:

1. Only the worthy may possess Mjolnir.
2. Mjolnir will return to the exact place where it was thrown.
3. Power of simulated flight.
4. Power to summon real thunder, lightning, wind, and rain.
5. Mjolnir is (only by conventional means) indestructible.
6. Power to open extra-dimensional portals.

Note: None of these poses as a weakness for Superman.

Reason 2

This reason is obviously fallacious. As long as Thor is a god and not God (with the capital G) then there is no logical reason why he can’t be defeated by a non-god. A god is defined as: A male being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people. So most super-heroes can possibly be gods (even Superman). The belief, "It is impossible for a non god to defeat a god.", is just plain foolishness.

Reason 3

This reason is logically valid if only it were true. All Marvel trading cards with stats in addition to the Marvel Universe encyclopedias rank Thor’s fighting ability as a 4 (Experienced Fighter), with 7 being the highest. “What?” Thor has thousands of years of fighting experience and yet he isn’t even a master of a single form of combat. Mere mortals such as Captain America and Wolverine outrank Thor’s fighting ability by 3 whole levels. On the other hand, Superman can move faster than the eye can blink. There is no amount of fighting skill that can combat this (not even a fighting rank of 7). One can't dodge or block that is which is too fast for him to react to. Only the JEDI can do this through their use of the Force. Thor has never fought anyone of Superman's speed and reflexes before (Although in the fight between Thor and Gladiator, for some strange reason, Gladiator did not fight at his optimal speed). Also, Superman has received rigorous training in the art of warfare by Mongul himself. Thus by adding in super speed, super reflexes, and vast powers, Superman is a much greater fighter than Thor.

More on Thor and Superman

Superman is extremely much stronger than Thor. Post-crisis (not Pre-crisis) Superman’s maximum bench-press strength is listed as 250,000 tons (when using his telekinetic abilities) while Thor’s maximum press strength is around 100 tons. This is a 2,500% difference. Superman’s maximum speed is 60,000 mph (flight – atmosphere), 300,000,000 mph (flight – space, about half the speed of light), and 30,000 mph (running) while Thor’s maximum speed is on average 200mph (running), 25,000 mph (flight -- atmosphere and space), and infinite (inter-dimensional travel through portals formed by Mjolnir).
Also, Thor is nowhere near invulnerable as Superman is. Thor’s flesh and bone density is about 3 times that of human tissue. His flesh is a consistency 5-7 times stronger than regular Kevlar. This fact is estimated from the facts: (1) Hulk’s skin is a consistency 8-10 times stronger than kevlar and (2) Hulk is always a level above Thor in the durability stat. Now imagine Thor, with this durability level, getting hit by a 225lb. baseball-sized cannonball traveling at 30 times faster than a rifle’s bullet and that has nearly no give or loss of velocity at impact. This is about 30,000 times the momentum of the rifle’s bullet. Superman will literally punch a gapping hole in the Asgardian. Thus there is no way that Thor can withstand Superman’s might.
But on the other hand, direct physical hits by Mjolnir could possibly affect Superman. But this actually depends on whether the magical energy in Mjolnir coincides with D.C.’s definition and if Superman manages to get hit at all. For the sake of argument, let’s assume Mjolnir does have the correct type of magical energy in it and in which, for some strange reason, Superman happens to get hit by it. But after this first hit Superman will now know of Mjolnir properties, and due to Superman’s super speed and reflexes, it would then be nearly impossible for Thor to hit him with it again.
Conclusion

Since those popular three reasons are not valid and the ones I gave are, then hence, Superman wins easily. Also, IMHO, I believe that Superman could possibly defeat the entire Avenger's team. This is because of the fact that Count Nefaria could and the fact that Superman is much stronger, faster (including reflexes), has more powers, and has greater fighting skills than Count Nefaria.

Originally posted by Soljer

😂 😂 😂

Galactus level and beyond! Is he even serious anymore?

every single post by battlehammer

MB, we don't need unsolicited shots at other members. You should be above that. Consider this informal, but don't let it happen again.

As always, this thread is allowed to stay open so long as it doesn't devolve into bashing and finger-pointing at those who are perceived to be dumb. I feel the need to reiterate this because most posts are fine, but this thread has crossed that line more than once, and I won't tolerate its continuation.

Digi's such a tool...

Add this one to the thread...

Originally posted by DigiMark007
MB, we don't need unsolicited shots at other members. You should be above that. Consider this informal, but don't let it happen again.

As always, this thread is allowed to stay open so long as it doesn't devolve into bashing and finger-pointing at those who are perceived to be dumb. I feel the need to reiterate this because most posts are fine, but this thread has crossed that line more than once, and I won't tolerate its continuation.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
MB, we don't need unsolicited shots at other members. You should be above that. Consider this informal, but don't let it happen again.

As always, this thread is allowed to stay open so long as it doesn't devolve into bashing and finger-pointing at those who are perceived to be dumb. I feel the need to reiterate this because most posts are fine, but this thread has crossed that line more than once, and I won't tolerate its continuation.

👆. Bashing isn't needed.

every single post made by Digi

😖hifty:

Originally posted by llagrok
every single post made by Digi

😖hifty:

Agreed. But...

That joke was already done a post above my last one.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
MB, we don't need unsolicited shots at other members. You should be above that. Consider this informal, but don't let it happen again.

As always, this thread is allowed to stay open so long as it doesn't devolve into bashing and finger-pointing at those who are perceived to be dumb. I feel the need to reiterate this because most posts are fine, but this thread has crossed that line more than once, and I won't tolerate its continuation.

😕 i complimented him

Originally posted by Master-Borg
😕 i complimented him

And that's Digi's compliment to you.

Your posts are so good, he'll only give you an informal warning.

Be proud, brother.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
😕 i complimented him

shut up, pleases do not lie and insult ever ones intilligences

Originally posted by DigiMark007
MB, we don't need unsolicited shots at other members. You should be above that. Consider this informal, but don't let it happen again.

As always, this thread is allowed to stay open so long as it doesn't devolve into bashing and finger-pointing at those who are perceived to be dumb. I feel the need to reiterate this because most posts are fine, but this thread has crossed that line more than once, and I won't tolerate its continuation.

thannks

Originally posted by Battlehammer
shut up, pleases do not lie and insult ever ones intilligences
I find your posts funny...that's not an insult

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I find your posts funny...that's not an insult
Good god, shut up, it's not amusing and you're wasting everyone's bandwidth.

Originally posted by james2099
If you want hulk to lift or brace 150 billion tons because you want so much for him to have done it, Then believe what you want, But look at other posts on here and see that even people who like hulk will tell you that he never braced or lifted the full weight, And what he did brace, HE could not hold it for long....So hes not very strong after all now is he??

Also, more genuinely

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Good god, shut up, it's not amusing and you're wasting everyone's bandwidth.

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A whole thread of breakdown:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=481520

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