Superman vs Black Adam(punchfest)

Originally posted by nutorious
no because an all out superman is a superman without CIS and when he is without his "cant kill poor people" crap and he fights to his best he is leagues above both captain marvel and black adam ,so basically them beating superman is PIS and CIS because most of the time they are fighting a superman that doesnt want to hurt anyone even when he is mad he still control himself and doesnt let himself lose control but when he does ask darkseid how is the feeling

Wonder woman fought an all out superman and did just fine. Hell, she had ghe advantage at one point.

An all out Superman would take Adam. He'd take Diana too.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder woman fought an all out superman and did just fine. Hell, she had ghe advantage at one point.

No she didn't. She fought a mentally handicapped Superman.

Adam beats him to death like the weak ass Doomsday did.

black adam should win.. superman shouldnt be able to stand up to his magic nature like he does in comics from time to time..

Originally posted by -Pr-
An all out Superman would take Adam. He'd take Diana too.

No she didn't. She fought a mentally handicapped Superman.

Per the writer of that story he stated that wonder woman fought the most powerful form of superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Per the writer of that story he stated that wonder woman fought the most powerful form of superman.

Where did Rucka say that?

Assuming he even did, that's just his opinion.

wonder women fought a brainwashed superman theres a difference it wasnt clark it was a brainwashed zombie

anyway superman in all out mode stomps adam

Originally posted by -Pr-
Where did Rucka say that?

Assuming he even did, that's just his opinion.

Wasn't it stated on the first page of the comic and it was also stated when theyvwere introducing the comic.

Why would a superman that is trying to kill you... hitting you withv everything that he got not be the most powerful version? I don't understand.

Originally posted by carver9

Why would a superman that is trying to kill you... hitting you withv everything that he got not be the most powerful version? I don't understand.

because he was brainwashed and didnt control his mind which means he didnt have the tactics and fighting smart that superman normaly has he was just a zombie that was attacking her , superman on the other hand when all out is fighting for some cause which makes him stronger and makes his determination even stronger because he knows its up to him to defeat the bad guy and save the world and thats why superman in his right mind will be much stronger than a brainwashed superman that is trying to go all out

tell me something when will you fight harder? when you are mad and just want to beat someone and you dont control yourself and dont think? or when lets say your mother is attacked and you are losing yourself and you know you got to give every single thing you got to defend her? you know the answer , thats the case with superman

so every time he fights along batman its when he is fighting harder?mhmm

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Originally posted by nutorious
because he was brainwashed and didnt control his mind which means he didnt have the tactics and fighting smart that superman normaly has he was just a zombie that was attacking her , superman on the other hand when all out is fighting for some cause which makes him stronger and makes his determination even stronger because he knows its up to him to defeat the bad guy and save the world and thats why superman in his right mind will be much stronger than a brainwashed superman that is trying to go all out

Have you read the comic? He wasn't a zombie... the only thing max did to him was make him think wonder woman was doomsday and made him see wonder woman\doomsday killing lois. He was talking and thinking while fighting her and he was also being tacticle.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't it stated on the first page of the comic and it was also stated when theyvwere introducing the comic.

Why would a superman that is trying to kill you... hitting you withv everything that he got not be the most powerful version? I don't understand.

Where?

It would be, but he wasn't hitting Wonder Woman with everything he had. Plus, he was mind-controlled.

Even then, he was WINNING.

Originally posted by -Pr-
An all out Superman would take Adam. He'd take Diana too.

No she didn't. She fought a mentally handicapped Superman.

He thought she was Doomsday, and that he killed Lois in front of him.

He knew Doomsday could take his best, and still not be brought down. No reason he'd pull his punches, given who he thought she was..

He was winning, though. Wonder Woman was fighting to survive (And to be fair, she also claimed she was pulling her punches, because of their friendship.)

Originally posted by -Pr-
An all out Superman would take Adam. He'd take Diana too.

No she didn't. She fought a mentally handicapped Superman.

Originally posted by nutorious
your scans are bullshit this wasnt an all out superman it wasnt stated and it didnt look like he is all out, an all out superman is the superman that fights darkseid he is pissed he is using his speed blitzing and you see him attack non stop with his punches and you see him mad, this superman is not an all out superman so you can shove that bullshit up your a$$ and go wank on colossus getting his arms snapped by some random character

superman wasnt going all out but he was much more agressive then adam was. in fact this is one of the few times i have seen adam actually hold back.

Originally posted by nutorious
it should be like this

black adam > superman / captain marvel

BUT

all out superman >>>> black adam > captain marvel

I agree with this minus the fact i think superman is a bit faster in combat then adam.

Originally posted by cdtm
He thought she was Doomsday, and that he killed Lois in front of him.

He knew Doomsday could take his best, and still not be brought down. No reason he'd pull his punches, given who he thought she was..

He was winning, though. Wonder Woman was fighting to survive (And to be fair, she also claimed she was pulling her punches, because of their friendship.)

He was being mind-controlled, though. And he was being emotional.

Superman's best combat feats come from being cold and logical, not emotional.

His anger and outrage do give him a boost, yes, but he's more devastating when he's not feeling. That's been shown on panel more than once. Certainly enough to convince me.

Superman is faster than Adam. He has the better feats for starters. Doesn't mean Adam is slow though.

Black Adam would be throwing haymakers so this goes to adam for sure.

Originally posted by carver9
Have you read the comic? He wasn't a zombie... the only thing max did to him was make him think wonder woman was doomsday and made him see wonder woman\doomsday killing lois. He was talking and thinking while fighting her and he was also being tacticle.

as i said before he was mind controlled and he wasnt himself, also like PR stated he was emotional and already felt like he lost everything so he was mentaly weaker due to that fact unlike when he goes all out to save the world then he is the strongest he can be and thats far above the enough to murder black adam