Revan vs Anakin

Started by Darth Exodus12 pages
Revan owns both ways. He's clearly superior to Anakin in the Force by showings and reputation, and his access to Sith lore makes him much more formidable. Secondly, with a saber, he's reputed to have defeated top-tier warriors: Darth Malak juiced on the Star Forge (Confirmed by Drew K); Darth Bandon who was the top jedi killer behind Malak; the Sith at the Korriban Academy; Yusanis, Mandalore, Bendak Starkiller (Assumed); and Calo Nord- a notorious bounty hunter. Anakin was good, and I would say he could potentially be one of the best swordsmen in SW history had he not taken a dip in lava. But the mindset he lacked, and Obi-Wan, who was an inferior fighter, beat him soundly.

Then we're in agreement.
That also means that Revan would beat Dooku as Anakin did.
Revan>Anakin so
Revan>Dooku.

That should get some others to join in.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Then we're in agreement.
That also means that Revan would beat Dooku as Anakin did.
Revan>Anakin so

That should get some others to join in.

Wrong, you seem to forget that anakin was defeated under circumstances and was not "the zone" anakin.

Revan wins a force fight whereas anakin beats him in a saber duel.

Originally posted by Ivalice
Wrong, you seem to forget that anakin was defeated under circumstances and was not "the zone" anakin.

Revan wins a force fight whereas anakin beats him in a saber duel.

WTF is "teh z0n3!!!1111"? How is this a) a definable term, b) able to be substantiated, c) any indicator that Anakin would be anything but schooled by someone who's defeated greater opponents at bigger disadvantages.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
WTF is "teh z0n3!!!1111"? How is this a) a definable term, b) able to be substantiated, c) any indicator that Anakin would be anything but schooled by someone who's defeated greater opponents at bigger disadvantages.
I'll get back to you when i find the required quote(s) in the ROTS novel and i will happily disprove your claims once i do so.

Wrong, you seem to forget that anakin was defeated under circumstances and was not "the zone" anakin.

Revan wins a force fight whereas anakin beats him in a saber duel

WTF????

I never said anything about Anakins defeat, only that if Revan can beat Anakin then he can beat Dooku. I was linking the threads. Duh!!!!

again, Djem so didnt exist in revan's time which gives anakin the advantage in sword combat

again, Djem so didnt exist in revan's time which gives anakin the advantage in sword combat

So? Revan used that other style..... Jar'kai or whatever, and it was stated that 'Skywalker had not received advanced training in either the Jar'Kai or Form IV, Dooku was easily able to break through Anakin's array of weapons'.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
WTF????

I never said anything about Anakins defeat, only that if Revan can beat Anakin then he can beat Dooku. I was linking the threads. Duh!!!!

A > B > C does not work all the time friend, and you have yet to actually prove how revan beats anakin in a saber duel, if its any one making a case of that, the only person actually doing it is janus and not you so shut the hell up pal.

@Janus, ill give you the quotes along with a proper argument in a few days, i am very busy at the moment with school and shit but i request that we debate without attacks and be civil.

i admit. this was my first kmc thread and i came on like a fanboy noob for revan. but i still am very unhappy on how they made kotor 1 such a good story and had the characters still be such peons. i would have liked it so that revan showed far more power and that malak showed power on the magnitude of nihilus.

unfortunately, revan comes off as an above average jedi if you weigh it and malak comes off as a lucky sith.

Bull

Still waiting for my sources, Ivalice.

Anyways, Revan is a difficult character to class because he's deliberately not shown in a lot of cutscenes fighting people because of the whole mystery element. A LARGE part of the success of the KotOR series lies in being able to create your own character, and the mystery behind Revan and the ancient sith, both of which appear as much as household ghosts, yet pretty much are shaping history with their bare hands. Sure, Sion and Nihilus look damn right more impressive because they have some visible feats. After all, they have an entire game dedicated to them wiping the floor with the Jedi Order. But in the end, Revan will likely be better than they are, or their peer. After all, there's another game coming out in oh, 2015 or so.

I will just concede, i am not in the mood to engage in any more debates seeing that this is just science fiction so you win janus.

This is "just" science fiction, eh? You've been doing this for almost three years, and it's suddenly "just" science fiction? Okay man, sure thing.

But if you make future claims which you don't back up, I'm sure myself or someone else will bring them up to you, and you will have to back your claims up. Maybe you can try and swing your weight around with newer members who haven't been doing this for years, but the rest of us will need more.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
This is "just" science fiction, eh? You've been doing this for almost three years, and it's suddenly "just" science fiction?
It has always been, and yes, i did this for 3 inconsistent years meaning i took several breaks in between, i do not spend every day off my life for 3 years strait debating which is what you seemingly implied.

Originally posted by Janus Marius

But if you make future claims which you don't back up, I'm sure myself or someone else will bring them up to you, and you will have to back your claims up. Maybe you can try and swing your weight around with newer members who haven't been doing this for years, but the rest of us will need more.
The thing is i DO have the quotes to back my claims up, but the only problem is i do not see the point of arguing on a meaningless matter nor am i bothered anymore to post the quotes seeing that it is "just science fiction".

Or maybe some sense just knocked into me.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Still waiting for my sources, Ivalice.

Anyways, Revan is a difficult character to class because he's deliberately not shown in a lot of cutscenes fighting people because of the whole mystery element. A LARGE part of the success of the KotOR series lies in being able to create your own character, and the mystery behind Revan and the ancient sith, both of which appear as much as household ghosts, yet pretty much are shaping history with their bare hands. Sure, Sion and Nihilus look damn right more impressive because they have some visible feats. After all, they have an entire game dedicated to them wiping the floor with the Jedi Order. But in the end, Revan will likely be better than they are, or their peer. After all, there's another game coming out in oh, 2015 or so.

my point. they didnt show alot of powerful jedi vs jedi lightsaber combat or force combat because of the whole mystery thing. so its hard to put him on level with anybody. i came fanboyish onto these forums because anakin is a nooblet and revan is awesome

top seven in "pimp" factor
1. vader (with super shiny esb helmet none of this rots anakin=vader crap)
2. Revan (dark lord with the bronze armor and mask and brown hood and cloak
3. Nihilus
4. tie between darkside male exile and mandalore (pick one)
5. hooded and cloaked anakin when hes jumping around slaughtering cis (awesome)
6. sideous
7. mace windu

top five in "gay" factor:
1. Mace Windu (its the pink lightsaber, sorry...)
2. Anakin Skywalker (all 3 movies except for the above part where he is slaughtering all the cis with his hood on...
3. pick any jedi that didnt go to war with revan...
4. any ithorian
5. Sideous (why did he have to break up with dukoo anyway?)

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
my point. they didnt show alot of powerful jedi vs jedi lightsaber combat or force combat because of the whole mystery thing. so its hard to put him on level with anybody. i came fanboyish onto these forums because anakin is a nooblet and revan is awesome

top seven in "pimp" factor
1. vader (with super shiny esb helmet none of this rots anakin=vader crap)
2. Revan (dark lord with the bronze armor and mask and brown hood and cloak
3. Nihilus
4. tie between darkside male exile and mandalore (pick one)
5. hooded and cloaked anakin when hes jumping around slaughtering cis (awesome)
6. sideous
7. mace windu

top five in "gay" factor:
1. Mace Windu (its the pink lightsaber, sorry...)
2. Anakin Skywalker (all 3 movies except for the above part where he is slaughtering all the cis with his hood on...
3. pick any jedi that didnt go to war with revan...
4. any ithorian
5. Sideous (why did he have to break up with dukoo anyway?)

What the bleep are you smoking?
how is this relevant to my original question?

and mace's saber is purple. he cant be that gay if he punished siddious, had him on the floor crying then disfigured his face.

actually, maces defeat of sideous is pretty debatable since sideous kicked yoda and yoda is the most devastating enemy the darkness had ever known. sideous may have been putting on an act.

in my recently more educated opinion

force; revan
sabers; anakin
all out; whoever gets the high ground (circumstantial)

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Maybe you can try and swing your weight around with newer members who haven't been doing this for years, but the rest of us will need more.

Lmao. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Still waiting for that response on PM, Janus.

If it's OK, could you post the PM here for all to see? I would very much like to see what's said.

There's a reason it's called a private message.