Originally posted by KutuluTheir brief fight at the X mansion says otherwise because Juggs had the upper hand. Juggs pushed Hulk back after the cockiest statement during that ark that's pretty funny.
Hulk slapped him away like a child because he realized that wasn't his goal to fight Juggernaut, he more important stuff to deal with.If that was Juggernaut instead of Sentry during WWH # 5, Juggernaut would be a dead man right now.
Originally posted by iceman24567
So his potential only means so much right? I think we agree on that subject. I Funny how you guys say the Hulk is the most powerful being on earth but Juggs pushed him back after the Hulk says i beat you before i can do it again!! 😆
Originally posted by janus77Actually i have poor Mj 🙁 . You did see the Hulk tried to hammer him down and fail right? He didn't want to be stopped not stalled but stopped because thats what Juggs would have done stopped him permanently with his classic powers back he is more than a match for Hulk.
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I said he had neither the time nor the inclination to takeout Juggernaut, which is to emphasis how little importance he attached to the shoving match. given that, he still +stopped+ Juggernaut. thus overcoming the "unstoppability" of the charm, something done by War Hulk and Thor's GodBlast previously.btw, close reading skills and a fairly rigorous application of logic are part of common sense. dunno where you get "super senses" from, you've not been reading Spiderman recently, have you? 😕
Originally posted by Kutulu
It's called a plot device, and it's something that writers use all the time. Welcome to comics 101. PC Superman fell for plot devices all the time, yet people still consider him plenty powerful. Same thing here.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Hulk slapped him away like a child because he realized that wasn't his goal to fight Juggernaut, he more important stuff to deal with.If that was Juggernaut instead of Sentry during WWH # 5, Juggernaut would be a dead man right now.
Originally posted by janus77
anyway, the writers did say he stopped Juggernaut, and it was patently clear he wasn't very bothered with Juggernaut.
That's not what he said, so quit passing as fact.
The writer said that Hulk stopped Juggernaut from completing what he wanted to do. And Juggernaut was there to trash the Hulk, not push him around. He clearly stated in other e-mails it was a matter of schematics when he used that word. In other words you could replace stopped with prevented. He didn't mean he stopped his forward momentum.
Not to mention Juggernaut also has the potential to increase his strength. It is just far more rarely that he does.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Oh please i wasn't born in the states it's not my first language and i guess you are above typos? Stop trying to change the subject with ignorant insults i hope you aren't a bigit. 😘
I explained why Hulk did not bother with Juggernaut, with reference to the overall arc and Hulk's explicit desire not to fight with anyone but the four he judged guilty for his fate. you went and read something else, what can I say?
btw it's bigot 😕 not that I am one, though I have on occasion been known to be pedantic.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
That's not what he said, so quit passing as fact.The writer said that Hulk stopped Juggernaut from completing what he wanted to do. And Juggernaut was there to trash the Hulk, not push him around. He clearly stated in other e-mails it was a matter of schematics when he used that word. In other words you could replace stopped with prevented. He didn't mean he stopped his forward momentum.
Not to mention Juggernaut also has the potential to increase his strength. It is just far more rarely that he does.
the writer said he stopped juggernaut. the illustrations bore that out, the fact that Xavier's mansion's foundations were being imperilled further emphasised the point.
Juggernaut's forward momentum was curtailed, ceased, stopped. end of.
oh and it's semantics, schematics are technical illustrations, I think 😕.
Originally posted by Kutulu
War Hulk was ready to slice of Juggernaut's head and pushing him back, overcoming the power of Cytorrak. This was a Hulk giving off green energy just like WWH did post Miek statement, except the WWH version had a significantly lot more energy showing than when he was War. Literally millions of times more energy or more. WWH post Miek statement would have utterly annihilated Juggernaut.
War Hulk and WWH are two completely different beasts. War Hulk was gifted with abilities given to him by Apocalypse. WWH is just a really pissed off Hulk. I don't care how mad Hulk gets, using his own energy, he's not going to beat Juggernaut.
Originally posted by janus77
the writer said he stopped juggernaut. the illustrations bore that out, the fact that Xavier's mansion's foundations were being imperilled further emphasised the point.Juggernaut's forward momentum was curtailed, ceased, stopped. end of.
Again, you need to read all the e-mails. He said Hulk redirected his momentum downward. That is why the foundation was being destroyed. So Juggernaut wasn't stopped. He made that clear in a later e-mail. And in those later e-mails he even used the word, "semantics".
As for the art you're wrong there too. If you look closely, you can see the 2 exchanging punches. Then they grapple, while at a standstill, in which Juggernaut starts pushing WWH back. So Juggs, using his regular muscles, overpowered Hulk.
Re: World breaker runs the gauntlet
Originally posted by ultimatethorStalemates at 1 since he will BFR himself and Juggy since he will crush the planet he's on.
Ok this is WWh after mieks statement, when he was wrecking the eastcoast wit his footsteps. He is generally considered as an about skyfather level brick How far can he go in this gauntlet with no rest inbetween for the first 7 fights1. juggernaut
2. wonderwoman
3.angry savage hulk
4. sentry
5. normal superman
6.thor
7.beta ray thor
8. warrior mad thor
9. onslaught fighting hulk
10.mangog
11. thanos
12.Odin
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Again, you need to read all the e-mails. He said Hulk redirected his momentum downward. That is why the foundation was being destroyed. So Juggernaut wasn't stopped. He made that clear in a later e-mail. And in those later e-mails he even used the word, "semantics".As for the art you're wrong there too. If you look closely, you can see the 2 exchanging punches. Then they grapple, while at a standstill, in which Juggernaut starts pushing WWH back. So Juggs, using his regular muscles, overpowered Hulk.
call it what you want but Juggernaut's 'unstoppability' is in specific regard to his +FORWARD+ momentum, every other direction has always been up for grabs.
Originally posted by janus77
as I said before in regards to this issue, Juggernaut's +FORWARD+ momentum was curtailed.
the only other instances when that has happened have been the result of War Hulk and Thor's GodBlast. when Thor's GodBlast stopped Juggernaut the ground gave way, which is exactly what was happening with the Mansion grounds. which means that Thor's GodBlast caused those energies behind Juggernaut's +FORWARD+ momentum to be redirected.call it what you want but Juggernaut's 'unstoppability' is in specific regard to his +FORWARD+ momentum, every other direction has always been up for grabs.
When your forward movement is redirected, that doesn't mean stopped.
I'll give you an example. When I was on a plane, they said over the loud speaker, "we will begin our downward decent into Houston". Now the plane didn't stop moving forward and go straight down to the airfield. It wasn't moving in the same line, but at a different angle, thus its path was redirected but was still moving forward.
In other words, Juggernaut was still moving forward, but Hulk was pushing down on him. Thus putting pressure on the foundation. Even then, it wouldn't have had to have been at that great of an angle.
Come on now, this is common sense.
Originally posted by KutuluThe haters on this board refuse to look at anything that isn't spelled out for them in exact terms, the fact that the writers showed him far far stronger than he was ever shown before means little to the people on this forum since they didn't give an exact calculation of his strength. This was a Hulk stronger than the force it took Sentry to stalemate Galactus. Do the math. He was a cosmic force of nature at that point. Good thing he gave himself up or Marvel Earth and everybody on it would have gotten pounded into dust.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
When your forward movement is redirected, that doesn't mean stopped.I'll give you an example. When I was on a plane, they said over the loud speaker, "we will begin our downward decent into Houston". Now the plane didn't stop moving forward and go straight down to the airfield. It wasn't moving in the same line, but at a different angle, thus its path was redirected but was still moving forward.
Whats that the plane didnt go straight down? Oh ok? So if a not particularly bothered WWH could do that, what do you think supernova Hulk would do.......TOAST!
This is for everybody.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg
Hulk: Like I said before. I dont have all day. Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going.
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