Deathstroke The Terminator vs The Thing

Started by Papa Smurph5 pages
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Notice the part I was talking about related to the staff itself. He never hit her physically with the staff only blasted her with the energy attack

Who cares? Your point was Deathstroke's class 2 blows have hurt Wonder Woman, which is irrelevant because they won't even bother Thing. Save face, stop typing.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Then why does Kid Flash even matter?

but he has tagged Kid Flash and even Flash over a dozen time.

GORILLA GRODD has tagged Flash with repeated strikes.

He has even tagged a pissed off Kid Flash.

GJ, like Kid Flash has never been hit before.

Ooooooh so if Batman/Nightwing tag him once that some how omits all his previous showings against faster people?

No,

It just makes this statement

I'll break up your post, and I'll show you DS's speed feats. Here's just a few, there's far more but hopefully you get the idea..which I somewhat doubt 😬

Originally posted by long pig
He can move at the speed of his thought process, which is 10x normal human. So, pretty fast. Reacting at his speed of thought would give him reflexes beyond people like Quicksilver.

Slade is damn fast. He gets sneak blitzed by Kid Flash. He took as second to realize wtf was going on, but when he did, he was able to move with KF's punch, then to kick him and K.O him.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Explains how he sees things in slow motion.

Originally posted by long pig
Another speed feat. He out-reacts Superman.

Do I think he's faster than Superman? No, but he's fast enough to make Superman say "Damn!".

Originally posted by long pig
A weird one, he sidesteps a faster-than-sound blast that StarFire says "Not even kid-flash can do that" and then somehow muscles over Donna...the Amazon powered broad.

Originally posted by long pig
He's faster than Starfire's Starbolts, in fact she says he moves around them as if they were stading still.

Her bolts were shown to exceed the speed of sound and more.

Originally posted by long pig
Flash ownage number...uhm...10?

Slade flat out tells Wally that he's faster. He then goes on to prove it by out-reacting him.

Originally posted by long pig
Another speed feat. He again explains that he moves faster than the speed of thought.
Slade even tells Changling that before his brain could send a nerve inpulse to move his finger, he could take him out.

So Thing catching DS? yeah not going to happen, if you want to see more speed feats look at the DS respect thread

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

that much 😂able

Green Lantern-So where or where did he fight them hand to hand and without the ring?

Identity Crisis, where he decides to slug it out.

That's great, but I wasn't referencing that.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

so I'm talking [b]classic days
held up a 10 story apartment building 😬

Yup. Classic days, get back to me when you see DS ever portrayed as greater then what Blade is nowadays.[/B]

Huh? Aquaman did that, but here he overpowers Donna Troy

1. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

but he can beat him using his weapons,

No he can't.

which he has used to beat people superior then Thing

No he hasn't.

So Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, the entire JLA, the entire Teen Titans arn't superior then Thing? *snickers* Stop

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Flash-What? Lobo one time stuck a hook [a large one] right through his head and he didn't skip a beat and healed from it

How's that relevant to when Deathstroke beat him by holding a sword forward and Flash forgetting about his healing ability and being portrayed as a normal human?

Errrr...I wasn't referencing Identity Crisis

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Wonder Woman-Errr? I guess that makes Hawkman, Superman, Green Lantern, Donna Troy, etc. all weak to eh?

What?

Those are people he hurt with his blows

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Who cares? Your point was Deathstroke's class 2 blows have hurt Wonder Woman, which is irrelevant because they won't even bother Thing. Save face, stop typing.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously retarded? What does being class 2 have anything to do with energy attacks? LISTEN...he hit her with an energy attack FROM the bowstaff, but didn't hurt her as in swing and hit her with it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'll break up your post, and I'll show you DS's speed feats. Here's just a few, there's far more but hopefully you get the idea..which I somewhat doubt 😬

So Thing catching DS? yeah not going to happen, if you want to see more speed feats look at the DS respect thread

Deathstroke has been beaten by Green Arrow
[]yes
[]no

Deathstroke has been hit by people of comparable speed of Thing

[]yes
[]no

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Deathstroke has been beaten by Green Arrow
[]yes
[]no

Deathstroke has been hit by people of comparable speed of Thing

[]yes
[]no

Yeah with prep, and he DIDN'T even physically beat him. Context much? 😬

In PIS/CIS events, which are ignored by the rules of the board as he has more showings contradicting those incidents.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's great, but I wasn't referencing that.

Huh? Aquaman did that, but here he overpowers Donna Troy

1. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg

Since when is picking up a 130 lb woman overpowering her?

So Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, the entire JLA, the entire Teen Titans arn't superior then Thing?*snickers* Stop

*snickers* Context. *snickers*

Errrr...I wasn't referencing Identity Crisis

When has Deathstroke beaten Flash outside of IC?

Those are people he hurt with his blows

Deathstroke has hurt Superman?
Hawkman is more durable then Thing?
Donna Troy is more durable then Thing?
Green Lantern's human body is more durable then Thing?

What the hell are you talking about?

"HURT WW with his blows"

When normal people use the word blows they mean physical attacks.

Are you seriously retarded?

Losing debate over comic characters =/= grounds for name calling, especially when said debate comes from your poorly worded sentences.

What does being class 2 have anything to do with energy attacks?

"HURT WW with his blows"

LISTEN...he hit her with an energy attack FROM the bowstaff, but didn't hurt her as in swing and hit her with it.

Then why did you say he

"Yes, and his attacks HURT WW with his blows and his staff which he has here"

Backtracking your BS laden arguments?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah with prep, and he DIDN'T even physically beat him. Context much? 😬

In PIS/CIS events, which are ignored by the rules of the board as he has more showings contradicting those incidents.

So? Your point is Deathstroke is an unhittable God that exists in your own imaginary play world that nobody can touch unless you are Quicksilver level.

😂

So you're saying that Deathstroke has more portrayals as a "Greater then Quicksilver" level speedster then being just a notch above Batman?

😂

Stop typing, save face.

😂

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Since when is picking up a 130 lb woman overpowering her?

Errr..considering she just said she wasn't strong enough

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

So Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, the entire JLA, the entire Teen Titans arn't superior then Thing?*snickers* Stop

*snickers* Context. *snickers*

Please endulge me what is the context then?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Errrr...I wasn't referencing Identity Crisis

When has Deathstroke beaten Flash outside of IC?

Teen Titans of course

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Those are people he hurt with his blows

Deathstroke has hurt Superman?
Hawkman is more durable then Thing?
Donna Troy is more durable then Thing?
Green Lantern's human body is more durable then Thing?

*snickers* He hurt them with his fists, are your claiming he is class 2, and Wonder WOman is somehow weak because his punches phased her.

Also yes GL is durable then Thing as he has autoshields 😬

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

What the hell are you talking about?

"HURT WW with his blows"

When normal people use the word blows they mean physical attacks, this is more

Are you seriously retarded?

Losing debate over comic characters =/= grounds for name calling, especially when said debate comes from your poorly worded sentences.

What does being class 2 have anything to do with energy attacks?

"HURT WW with his blows"

LISTEN...he hit her with an energy attack FROM the bowstaff, but didn't hurt her as in swing and hit her with it.

Then why did you say he

"Yes, and his attacks [b]HURT WW with his blows and his staff which he has here"

Backtracking your BS laden arguments? [/B]

Uuuuuuh...you are seriously dense? My quote was about you saying the class 2 staff hit hurt her, when HE NEVER HIT HER WITH THE STAFF. HE HIT HER WITH AN ENERGY ATTACK. Yes his phyiscal blows hurt her and I even said that, but my quote was a correction where you said class 2 bowstaff hurt her when he never even hit her with the staff. Wow, simply wow.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So? Your point is Deathstroke is an unhittable God that exists in your own imaginary play world that nobody can touch unless you are Quicksilver level.

😂

So you're saying that Deathstroke has more portrayals as a "Greater then Quicksilver" level speedster then being just a notch above Batman?

😂

Stop typing, save face.

😂

Oh..so where did I say that? He can be hit definetly, but by the likes of Thing? No. Definetly not

Classic QS? Yes. As he has defeated Kid Flash many times. He sees the world in slow motion, and has instaneous reflexes as stated. He is not faster running speed-wise, but his reflexes are as he has embarassed Kid Flash many times.

So I provide evidence and I'm the crazy one?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errr..considering she just said she wasn't [b]strong enough[/B]

When did Donna Troy said anything about not being strong enough?

The only thing I see is a 250 lb Deathstroke talking smack and flipping a 130 lb woman in the air.

Please endulge me what is the context then?

He beat Kyle Rayner by fighting him H2H, basically Class 2 trained Martial Artist versus some comic geek.

He beat Flash through prep and sticking his sword straight out, Flash didn't use any of your irrelevant powers from comic #2125 that happened 3 years ago, he got struck near the heart with a sword and almost died.

Etc, he beat the team using prep to take them out of their element and bring them to his level using techniques that would make Thing 😂 and only serve to get his ass kicked.

Teen Titans of course

When? You talking about when he blew off Kid Flash's leg with shotty?

*snickers* He hurt them with his fists, are your claiming he is class 2, and Wonder WOman is somehow weak because his punches phased her.

Yup

Also yes GL is durable then Thing as he has autoshields 😬

Which are always absent in his Deathstroke battles. Why are you bringing them up?


Uuuuuuh...you are seriously dense? My quote was about you saying the class 2 staff hit hurt her, when HE NEVER HIT HER WITH THE STAFF. HE HIT HER WITH AN ENERGY ATTACK. Yes his phyiscal blows hurt her and I even said that, but my quote was a correction where you said class 2 bowstaff hurt her when he never even hit her with the staff. Wow, simply wow.

Does it matter? The point was class 2 attacks are hurting Wonder Woman, which does more to lower her stock then raise Deathstroke's. If your phrase wasn't so poorly worded, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, step it up.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Oh..so where did I say that?

"but by the likes of Thing? No. Definetly not"

😂

Classic QS? Yes.

😂

As he has defeated Kid Flash many times.

By many times you mean maybe 3 in his 20 year career.

He sees the world in slow motion,

And still gets hit by human-speed level fighters, often.

and has instaneous reflexes as stated.

Which don't really mean much as he gets hit by everyone and their mother, he only gets the drop on Flash through prep and battle savy.

He is not faster running speed-wise, but his reflexes are as he has embarassed Kid Flash many times.

By many you mean maybe 3 in his 20 year career. Forgetting that every Teen Titan and their mother has hit him one time or another without difficulty.

Batman
All the Green Arrows
All the Robin's (has Jason gone up against him yet?)
Anybody really.

Only places I've ever even seen this once in a 10 year span super speed come up his here and CBR.


So I provide evidence and I'm the crazy one?

No, you use 2-3 showings to go against 20 years of what's been established.

Thing's going to hit Deathstroke.
Deathstroke will damn near die.
Thing will laugh when Deathstroke hurts himself punching him.
I will laugh.
Thing wins 9/10

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When did Donna Troy said anything about not being strong enough?

The only thing I see is a 250 lb Deathstroke talking smack and flipping a 130 lb woman in the air.

DS-Lady were both holding this golden rope of yours. Let's see who is stronger shall we?

Donna Troy: "Blast it--My Amazon powers are nothing to this guy"

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Please endulge me what is the context then?

He beat Kyle Rayner by fighting him H2H, basically Class 2 trained Martial Artist versus some comic geek.

He beat Flash through prep and sticking his sword straight out, Flash didn't use any of your irrelevant powers from comic #2125 that happened 3 years ago, he got struck near the heart with a sword and almost died.

Etc, he beat the team using prep to take them out of their element and bring them to his level using techniques that would make Thing 😂 and only serve to get his ass kicked.

That was Identity Crisis, which if you noticed I really havn't been referencing in my other points. What about the other times?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Teen Titans of course

When? You talking about when he blew off Kid Flash's leg with shotty?

No that was Kid Flash, I will see if I dig up the issue.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

*snickers* He hurt them with his fists, are your claiming he is class 2, and Wonder WOman is somehow weak because his punches phased her.

Yup

*snickers* Then I guess the entire DC Earth is weak then too

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Also yes GL is durable then Thing as he has autoshields 😬

Which are always absent in his Deathstroke battles. Why are you bringing them up?

They were on when he fought Jordan

Originally posted by Papa Smurph


Uuuuuuh...you are seriously dense? My quote was about you saying the class 2 staff hit hurt her, when HE NEVER HIT HER WITH THE STAFF. HE HIT HER WITH AN ENERGY ATTACK. Yes his phyiscal blows hurt her and I even said that, but my quote was a correction where you said class 2 [b]bowstaff
hurt her when he never even hit her with the staff. Wow, simply wow.

Does it matter? The point was class 2 attacks are hurting Wonder Woman, which does more to lower her stock then raise Deathstroke's. If your phrase wasn't so poorly worded, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, step it up. [/B]

Yes it does, because I had to correct you about the bowstaff and your telling me I'm wrong and I need to save face and stop typing? You showed you DIDN'T read the issue and DIDN'T know what actually hapened and it showed and you got caught. So

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When did Donna Troy said anything about not being strong enough?

The only thing I see is a 250 lb Deathstroke talking smack and flipping a 130 lb woman in the air.

Please endulge me what is the context then?

He beat Kyle Rayner by fighting him H2H, basically Class 2 trained Martial Artist versus some comic geek.

He beat Flash through prep and sticking his sword straight out, Flash didn't use any of your irrelevant powers from comic #2125 that happened 3 years ago, he got struck near the heart with a sword and almost died.

Etc, he beat the team using prep to take them out of their element and bring them to his level using techniques that would make Thing 😂 and only serve to get his ass kicked.

Teen Titans of course

When? You talking about when he blew off Kid Flash's leg with shotty?

*snickers* He hurt them with his fists, are your claiming he is class 2, and Wonder WOman is somehow weak because his punches phased her.

Yup

Also yes GL is durable then Thing as he has autoshields 😬

Which are always absent in his Deathstroke battles. Why are you bringing them up?


Uuuuuuh...you are seriously dense? My quote was about you saying the class 2 staff hit hurt her, when HE NEVER HIT HER WITH THE STAFF. HE HIT HER WITH AN ENERGY ATTACK. Yes his phyiscal blows hurt her and I even said that, but my quote was a correction where you said class 2 [b]bowstaff
hurt her when he never even hit her with the staff. Wow, simply wow.

Does it matter? The point was class 2 attacks are hurting Wonder Woman, which does more to lower her stock then raise Deathstroke's. If your phrase wasn't so poorly worded, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, step it up. [/B]

papa smurph, i'd appreciate it if you'd tone down the attitude. you've been warned for your behaviour recently already, so i'd appreciate it if you took those words to heart and debated in a more courteous manner...

man, you guys are dragging this out huh, lol

Originally posted by pr1983
papa smurph, i'd appreciate it if you'd tone down the attitude. you've been warned for your behaviour recently already, so i'd appreciate it if you took those words to heart and debated in a more courteous manner...

He calls me retarded and I'm the one who gets warned?

Great moderating skill 😕

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
"but by the likes of Thing? No. Definetly not"

😂

Classic QS? Yes.

😂

As he has defeated Kid Flash many times.

By many times you mean maybe 3 in his 20 year career.

He sees the world in slow motion,

And still gets hit by human-speed level fighters, often.

and has instaneous reflexes as stated.

Which don't really mean much as he gets hit by everyone and their mother, he only gets the drop on Flash through prep and battle savy.

[i[He is not faster running speed-wise, but his reflexes are as he has embarassed Kid Flash many times.[/i]

By many you mean maybe 3 in his 20 year career. Forgetting that every Teen Titan and their mother has hit him one time or another without difficulty.

So I provide evidence and I'm the crazy one?

No, you use 2-3 showings to go against 20 years of what's been established.

Thing's going to hit Deathstroke.
Deathstroke will damn near die.
Thing will laugh.
I will laugh.
Thing wins 9/10

2-3 showings I showed more than that just with my above post earlier with the scans? You seriously do not follow DS do you?

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Takes out four people before they can react and process the fact that he is there.

All these are while he was depowered, BTW. VERY depowered.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Fast enough to shoot flash with his plasma staff, then trip him up.

Few pages earlier Flash mentioned punching Slade is akin to punching a brick wall.

Here is where it talks about Slade being depowered. Before the batman fight.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Slade shows off his Spiderman-esque agility. He uses every trick in the book trying to get away from superman.

Originally posted by long pig
Anyway, I have a few stolen feats, a lot of them are taking me forever to download and upload so I can't really say how many I will share.

Here's one: DS' senses are magnified 10,000x of a normal human.

Originally posted by long pig
Speed Feat.
Originally posted by Deathstroke
Dodges Batgirl easily.
http://i83.imagethrust.com/images/4wHh/view-image/17.html

He has more showings, so no he does not have just 2-3 showings.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
DS-Lady were both holding this golden rope of yours. Let's see who is stronger shall we?

Donna Troy: "Blast it--My Amazon powers are nothing to this guy"

Her inability to rope up Deathstroke means she weaker then him?

That was Identity Crisis, which if you noticed I really havn't been referencing in my other points. What about the other times?

What other times?

*snickers* Then I guess the entire DC Earth is weak then too
What?

They were on when he fought Jordan

Sure they were. 🙄

Yes it does,

No it doesn't.

because I had to correct myself

"Yes, and his attacks HURT WW with his blows and his staff which he has here"
Terribly worded sentence that you had to clarify.

You showed you DIDN'T read the issue and DIDN'T know what actually hapened and it showed and you got caught.

Yeah, because one issue where he doesn't receive any major boost makes or breaks who wins this fight 🙄

BTW when have I claimed to have read to issue and "got caught"

Originally posted by King_Mungi
2-3 showings I showed more than that just with my above post earlier with the scans? You seriously do not follow DS do you?

He has more showings, so no he does not have just 2-3 showings.

Oh look, a bunch of Daredevil level speed feats now puts him on par with Quicksilver and make him an unhittable speed demon (as well as Slade talking random smack about his powers), I sure don't follow Deathstroke because I know what I'm talking about!

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Her inability to rope up Deathstroke means she weaker then him?

Errr? No she tried to pull him in, but DS literally reveresed it showing he was stronger. Hence why said said her powers were nothing to him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

That was Identity Crisis, which if you noticed I really havn't been referencing in my other points. What about the other times?

What other times?

Take your pick

http://www.dcuguide.com/chronology.php?name=deathstroke

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

*snickers* Then I guess the entire DC Earth is weak then too
What?

Your claiming he is class 2, when he is more then that. Even my first scan I posted for his strength was a class 8-10 feat.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

They were on when he fought Jordan

Sure they were. 🙄

So you read the issue then?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Yes it does,

No it doesn't.

because I had to correct [b]myself

"Yes, and his attacks HURT WW with his blows and his staff which he has here"
Terribly worded sentence that you had to clarify.

You showed you DIDN'T read the issue and DIDN'T know what actually hapened and it showed and you got caught.

Yeah, because one issue where he doesn't receive any major boost makes or breaks who wins this fight 🙄

BTW when have I claimed to have read to issue and "got caught" [/B]

Uuuuh..notice I first mentioned blows ie. physical and then talked about the staff and if you knew anything about DS know it's a very very powerful weapon. I even explained it right afterwards multiple times and you still argued it 😬

No but you were so sure a class 2 bowstaff hurt WW.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Oh look, a bunch of Daredevil level speed feats now puts him on par with Quicksilver and make him an unhittable speed demon (as well as Slade talking random smack about his powers), I sure don't follow Deathstroke because I know what I'm talking about!

Were or where did I state he is unhittable, and no those are NOT Daredevil speed feats. Also I said his REFLEXES not his overall speed were faster, as back in day classic Quicksilver couldn't even go mach 1 😬

You don't follow DS, but your saying you DO know what your talking about? Oxymoron?