Originally posted by jmcnasty
The only thing that I want from you is a scan because every fight that i have seen of superman, humans are able to see the entire fight, every punch thrown. Provide a scan or I'll pressume that youre making everything up (I already know that you wont find a scan but I would love for you to try and find one).
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
And this one while flying in space.
Originally posted by jmcnasty
Iceman, I try to understand you but sometimes I just dont (this is carver9). I know that there has been instances where superman has used his speed but not the way that you are saying.The thing about superman is that he has great will power and thats why I give him wins against a lot of characters, its because he dont give up, its not because of a speed blitz that he rarely has done since the 50 or 60 years that he has been out (might been longer then that). I just think that sentry is physically supermans superior and it has been established by a freakin comic book writer that wwh can beat superman. What more evidence do you need. I know that writers arent a 100% right but with him saying that, if a book ever came out with the two fighting against each other, its a possibility that hulk would demolish superman just as bad as he did sentry.
Both can solo this fight and whoever thinks that superman can beat these two are a huge fan of superman and need to be banned forever off kmc. 😉
You understand that we are taking [characters and their power sets, how resistance they are and how their strength levels vary when compared to each other] into account ------ outside of the comics they are in to take out PIS and CIS. No one is arguing that this team could beat superman in a comic.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpgAnd this one while flying in space.
the only one that really showed combat speed was the one where he fought mongul, the after image, the rest spiderman has done. Not impressed. Would you like for me to show you combat speed.
This is combat speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY . Now like I said, show me some scans BESIDES the imperex scans that is irrelevant and pointless since imperex was speed blitz by everyone in the entire comic, where superman has speed blitzed and again it shouldnt be hard since he has been out for about 60 years or so.
Originally posted by Decimus
You understand that we are taking [characters and their power sets, how resistance they are and how their strength levels vary when compared to each other] into account ------ outside of the comics they are in to take out PIS and CIS. No one is arguing that this team could beat superman in a comic.
Im not arguing about a comic either and you cant say that something is pis if it has been happening since the characters creation. Superman has been getting beaten and hit by bricks his entire career. His entire career superman might have shown only about 5 times out of 60 years to have any kind of decent combat speed, the rest have been nothing but flight speed, (not counting him moving his hands fast, not impressive). You cant call something pis when its been going on for ages example, wolverine has been taking punches from beings in hulks caliber since his creation but there are some that dont agree with that.
If wolverine has been doing this since the beginning and jump back up after every attack, why would that be changed if someone of a forum says that its not true but it happens in almost all of his comics.
Originally posted by jmcnastyI have to disagree all of those are combat speed feats performed in different ways but combat feats.
the only one that really showed combat speed was the one where he fought mongul, the after image, the rest spiderman has done. Not impressed. Would you like for me to show you combat speed.This is combat speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY . Now like I said, show me some scans BESIDES the imperex scans that is irrelevant and pointless since imperex was speed blitz by everyone in the entire comic, where superman has speed blitzed and again it shouldnt be hard since he has been out for about 60 years or so.
Originally posted by jmcnasty
the only one that really showed combat speed was the one where he fought mongul, the after image, the rest spiderman has done. Not impressed. Would you like for me to show you combat speed.This is combat speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY . Now like I said, show me some scans BESIDES the imperex scans that is irrelevant and pointless since imperex was speed blitz by everyone in the entire comic, where superman has speed blitzed and again it shouldnt be hard since he has been out for about 60 years or so.
Either way you won't change my mind and I won't change yours.
Supes wins this.
Originally posted by jmcnasty
Im not arguing about a comic either and you cant say that something is pis if it has been happening since the characters creation. Superman has been getting beaten and hit by bricks his entire career. His entire career superman might have shown only about 5 times out of 60 years to have any kind of decent combat speed, the rest have been nothing but flight speed, (not counting him moving his hands fast, not impressive). You cant call something pis when its been going on for ages example, wolverine has been taking punches from beings in hulks caliber since his creation but there are some that dont agree with that.If wolverine has been doing this since the beginning and jump back up after every attack, why would that be changed if someone of a forum says that its not true but it happens in almost all of his comics.
But you CHOOSE not to count his hands moving fast as combat speed or impressive. Again your choice but it is factual combat speed and not an opinion. So there is no more need to even find one combat speed feat because you don't consider an acceptable combat speed feat to be an acceptable feat to begin with.
Originally posted by Decimus
But you CHOOSE not to count his hands moving fast as combat speed or impressive. Again your choice but it is factual combat speed and not an opinion. So there is no more need to even find one combat speed feat because you don't consider an acceptable combat speed feat to be an acceptable feat to begin with.
Well said and that's why I am longer debuting with him.
