Superman vs WWH & Sentry (please a little more mature this time....)

Originally posted by jks
After reading this thread, it's clear that the superman supporters have not done a very good job debating. When confronted with a well thought out argument, they all [except for 1, being iceman] could do nothing but reply with childish banter and insults.

Sure sign of losing a debate.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I feel the same way plus Dbz combat feats are so inconsistent one second oh they are moving so fast we the viewers can't even see it 5 upgrades later back to slow movement.

Not inconsistent, you just dont get it. Back on topic, superman has no combat speed feat except the one with mongul. The scan that I showed you of dragonball is true combat speed feats, youre going to disagree because superman has no feats that is comparable to those. The only speed feats that superman has is flight. Hes a brick that could lose to hulk and dont have combat speed that would down play the hulk, to make it look like he would easily beat hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Not inconsistent, you just dont get it. Back on topic, superman has no combat speed feat except the one with mongul. The scan that I showed you of dragonball is true combat speed feats, youre going to disagree because superman has no feats that is comparable to those. The only speed feats that superman has is flight. Hes a brick that could lose to hulk and dont have combat speed that would down play the hulk, to make it look like he would easily beat hulk.

Originally posted by Decimus
But you CHOOSE not to count his hands moving fast as combat speed or impressive. Again your choice but it is factual combat speed and not an opinion. So there is no more need to even find one combat speed feat because you don't consider an acceptable combat speed feat to be an acceptable feat to begin with.

Got a question for you, is this impressive because this is basically what you showed me of superman speed feat and wolverine mimiced the same thing.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742029

Originally posted by iceman24567
What are you talking about i understand Dragon Ballz very well i watched all the season about 3 times. I have no Superman feats to compare to those because anime combat speed on that show is so different from combat speed in Superman comics. Like i said before Supermans combat feats are different but they still are combat feats disagree all you want others agree with me so i can't be 100% wrong or out of my mind. Superman can be a brick but Mongul taught he not to and he has combat feats somebody already posted a scans and the Doomsday one is pretty good too.

yeah i forgot about the doomsday speed feat, thats two that wolverine or spiderman cant mimic, I know you got 3 that you can show me.

Dragonball z has speed feats different then anime and comics because that is true combat speed. The only thing that you all show is superman moving his hands fast and superman flight speed. What makes dbz so different; you cant say that its because its anime thats why it was drawn like that because when the after images is done on dragonball z, not only do we see it but the fighters see it also. When freiza was moving tremendously fast, not only did we see it but goku seened it as well. The thing that is different about dbz speed feats and superman speed feat is due to the fact that every time goku fought a brick they got speed blitzed with ease, when superman fight bricks they are able to keep up with him and sometimes beat him, thats the difference.

Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for you, is this impressive because this is basically what you showed me of superman speed feat and wolverine mimiced the same thing.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742029

Originally posted by jmcnasty
because he knows nothing of the hulk and seem not to know anything about superman since superman has been dismantled by many brutes his ENTIRE career. Let me name a few.

The general
Titan
solomon grundy
kalibak
Darksied physically stomped him before.
Lobo
Doomsday
Mongul
Cheetah
Deathstroke
Batman
Imperex probe physically fought him.
Metallo physically fights him before using kryptonite
orion

I dont think that I need to name anymore people. That should be enough unless you all want me to keep going. Hulk has the ability to fight and beat superman, deal with it. With all of these bricks being able to fight superman on his term, you cant call it pis anymore.

Originally posted by Soljer
You've been told to stop trolling on more than one occasion. You may want to try actually paying heed.

Since when saying the truth means trolling ?

Originally posted by Kutulu
^^ Coming from the guy who said that Darkseid was higher up on the power scale than the Celestials. happywank

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Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Since when saying the truth means trolling ?

You should be banned for saying Superman wins more than 1/10 vs WWH or The Sentry at the end of WWH.

Originally posted by jmcnasty
because he knows nothing of the hulk and seem not to know anything about superman since superman has been dismantled by many brutes his ENTIRE career. Let me name a few.

The general - Anally rape hulk and sentry
Titan- Who?
solomon grundy- Would rape either of the team in most incarnations
kalibak- Same as general
Darksied physically stomped him before-Darkseid is rediculously powerful
Lobo- Is like galactus that he varies wildy
Doomsday- Doom stomp all over hulk and sentry
Mongul- Same as above
Cheetah- She is a wonder women villain 😕
Deathstroke- What? When have they ever fought?
Batman- You talking about Batgod? The same guy who knocked out the spectre with a bat punch.....
Imperex probe physically fought him.- And is basically sentry times 10.. and look what happened to it.
Metallo physically fights him before using kryptonite- Ill give you this one
orion- Orion has been written right in a while. He should crip walk all over supes.

I dont think that I need to name anymore people. That should be enough unless you all want me to keep going. Hulk has the ability to fight and beat superman, deal with it. With all of these bricks being able to fight superman on his term, you cant call it pis anymore.

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
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Originally posted by iceman24567
Except the Hulk wasn't moving Mongul was giving Superman everything he had and Superman countered them with ease i see a difference but it's just my opinion I'm sure you think differently.

Im not referring to the mongul, Im referring to the scan that he put up with equus. I agree with you, there is a difference between the scan with mongul and the scan of wolverine but it did match the scan of superman fight with equus. Now I can put up some more speed feats if you want. Im just trying get you to realize combat speed feats.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Most of those guys are bricks with super speed and reflexes and he usually beats them 😐. Darkseid doesn't beat him anymore he has gotten stronger since the last stomping.

thats not the point that they beat him, the point is he STRUGGLES against bricks that have displayed any kind of speed to put them over hulk, except maybe doomsday.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif

the only thing that Im going to say about this is 😆 , you really dong know what youre talking about, thats hilarious. Its a lot of people on that list that hulk would physically stomp in the ground.

This is superman vs sentry,first picosecond into the fight hulk is out of the picture,superman then takes sentry to the sun and rapes him.

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Hulks speed>>>imperex probe

Based upon what?

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Thats a bad speed example to use for superman since spiderman has mimic the same speed feat numerous of times. Hell during the sentry hulk fight, sentry TRIED to use speed but hulk punched him out of it.

So... that just means that sentry more than likely isnt as fast as superman. He has not shown the speed feats to prove otherwise...

Originally posted by jmcnasty
It seem like everyone that fought a imperex probe out sped it. The probes was slow, hell even wonderwoman mother speed blitzed two probes with ease.

Ww blocks bullets, pieces of exploding gods, and lasers with her bracelets, has raced the flash, and blocked supermans blows...I dont know much about the character, but I know enough to say that she's not slow...

Originally posted by jmcnasty
Is that the only speed blitz that you all can bring up for superman is the imperex and the mongul. I know that you all can do better than that since he has been out for how many years.

If you want to see speedblitzes then visit the respect thread...

Imean at least superman repeats his speedblitzes, and none of the mongul/ imperiex type ones were never stopped by a brick like hulk... name some of sentrys speedblitzes that weren't stopped by hulk...

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I didnt you idiot.

I said he at the same tier as the lowest celestials in his prime.

Go back to fapping to the ass shots in your hulk comics

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Since when saying the truth means trolling ?

Only when it comes from you fear of Gecko.

Originally posted by carver9
yeah i forgot about the doomsday speed feat, thats two that wolverine or spiderman cant mimic, I know you got 3 that you can show me.

Dragonball z has speed feats different then anime and comics because that is true combat speed. The only thing that you all show is superman moving his hands fast and superman flight speed. What makes dbz so different; you cant say that its because its anime thats why it was drawn like that because when the after images is done on dragonball z, not only do we see it but the fighters see it also. When freiza was moving tremendously fast, not only did we see it but goku seened it as well. The thing that is different about dbz speed feats and superman speed feat is due to the fact that every time goku fought a brick they got speed blitzed with ease, when superman fight bricks they are able to keep up with him and sometimes beat him, thats the difference.

Their speed is inconsistant because they are supposedly moving at thousands of multiples faster than light... but then it takes them an entire episode to get to the other side of namek... 😬