Originally posted by Man of Christ
I HAVE ONE STATEMENT TO DEFEAT YOUR IGNORANCE.THERE IS NO PROOF OF SUPERMAN'S INTERNAL ORGANS INVULNERABILITY
Superman's immunity stems from the cellular level. His cells absorb solar energy and become invulnerable.
His internal organs are composed of cells too. Therefore, he is also invulnerable at that level. QED.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Superman's immunity stems from the cellular level. His cells absorb solar energy and become invulnerable.His internal organs are composed of cells too. Therefore, he is also invulnerable at that level. QED.
AGAIN PLANTS ABSORB SOLAR ENERGY BUT THEY ARE NOT INVULNERABLE SO, THE ABILITY TO ABSORB ENERGY DOESNT EQUAL INVINCIBILITY
SECONDLY, EVER HEARD OF CELL DIFFERENTIATION, NOT ALL CELLS PERFORM THE SAME WAY OR HAVE THE SAME ABILITIES, THE CELLS THAT MAKE UP MUSCLE AND BONE DIFFER FROM THE ONES THAT MAKE INTERNAL ORGANS
Originally posted by Man of Christ
AGAIN PLANTS ABSORB SOLAR ENERGY BUT THEY ARE NOT INVULNERABLE SO, THE ABILITY TO ABSORB ENERGY DOESNT EQUAL INVINCIBILITYSECONDLY, EVER HEARD OF CELL DIFFERENTIATION, NOT ALL CELLS PERFORM THE SAME WAY OR HAVE THE SAME ABILITIES, THE CELLS THAT MAKE UP MUSCLE AND BONE DIFFER FROM THE ONES THAT MAKE INTERNAL ORGANS
You don't get it, do you? Superman's cells are specifically stated to absorb solar energy like a battery, making him stronger, faster, and more durable than any man. It's Superman's cells, not "Superman's skin cells" or "Superman's outer cells." ALL OF SUPERMAN'S cells.
Plants absorb solar energy to use in photosynthesis, using chemical processes to convert ATP.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!111 (using caps lock, since it seems you have difficulty understanding anything else)
When Superman starts breathing in CO2 and breathing out O2, I'll be sure to let you know.
Source canon > your opiniondenial.
Janus I have been reading posts on here for some time and I'm pretty certain this is the biggest case of fanboyism I have ever seen. MoC when you've lost... you've lost it's that simple. There is no point continuing this argument any farther unless you just want to be considered a complete and total noob. (Even more than previously thought)
Sherlock says: “Case closed”
Well I know that we have some-what decided that the Jedi do not know of what kroptonite is, so logically Suprman does not know of the jedi or the force, however, Revan or any othe powerfull force user, i.e. Yoda, DE Sidious, LOTF Luke who have substancial precaugnition abilities.
and for those of you who think that this abilit ony works in the short term, you are WRONG. In KOTOR II when you talk to the HAndmaiden, she talkes about the Echanni generals being able to see and interpret battles weeks, even months in advance, but revan's precog. skillers were better than their's.
Hence Superman would not know of the jedi or the force, but the said jedi/ sith would, and they would know what he is capable of and be able to prepair themselves accordingly.
" No it wouldn't, that's like saying he can Force choke a planet."
-Dark-Jaxx
also, dark-jaxx, i remember in A New hope when Darth Vader said that the power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force,
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Originally posted by Illustrious
Do you understand that Superman's inside's is just as durable as his outside?
His cells absorb solar energy and make him super powered. Seriously, read up.
Ok if you want to pull the invicable card I could easily mention Darth Sion, the only resion he died was because hegave up the will to live, and with some persuasion and knowlege of sions past by the exiles part, Superman has neither.
and for those of you who think that this abilit ony works in the short term, you are WRONG. In KOTOR II when you talk to the HAndmaiden, she talkes about the Echanni generals being able to see and interpret battles weeks, even months in advance, but revan's precog. skillers were better than their's.
1. Since when is Brianna "I've never even been allowed to study the Force up until this point" Handmaiden the expert on Revan? She supposes he has the ability; that's it. She can't substantiate it.
2. Echani elders seeing wars in advance is clearly hyperbole. Yusanis didn't see anything coming and he was the greatest among them. He didn't see Revan butcher him either.
Hence Superman would not know of the jedi or the force, but the said jedi/ sith would, and they would know what he is capable of and be able to prepair themselves accordingly.
This is lunacy. The Jedi can't prepare for something which moves faster than LIGHT.
also, dark-jaxx, i remember in A New hope when Darth Vader said that the power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force,
... Which should not be taken literally. Vader overcame his master by benchpressing him into a reactor core, not by blowing up the Death star with his gloved mitts.
Ok if you want to pull the invicable card I could easily mention Darth Sion, the only resion he died was because hegave up the will to live, and with some persuasion and knowlege of sions past by the exiles part, Superman has neither.
Sion healed himself and kept his body knit together in a twisted version of Nadd's healing of Kun. However, his power has limits. Supes, holding back, can punch Lobo into orbit. Sion loses.
Originally posted by Janus Marius
This is lunacy. The Jedi can't prepare for something which moves faster than LIGHT.
I know they won't be able to prepare much but they will know the extent of his powers.
Superman on the other hand, no.
however I would like to see the look on superman's face when he see a 1000+ story building launched in his face.
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... Which should not be taken literally. Vader overcame his master by benchpressing him into a reactor core, not by blowing up the Death star with his gloved mitts.[/QUOTE]
How do you know that?
Also when vader benchpressed his master down the shaft he was able to resist the lightning that his master was pumping out, which is extreemly deadly.
lastly, I don't remember the death star being able to destoy entire fleets with force lightning, devoid an entire planet of life without harming a single blade of grass, or ripping the souls out of three powerfull jedi masters, or being able to rip a language out of the minds of an entire race of force sensitive race and replace it with another, the list goes on and on.
I know they won't be able to prepare much but they will know the extent of his powers.
Superman on the other hand, no.
Considering Supes has fought and defeated baddies which would destroy entire hordes of Force users with their bare hands, I don't see this being a valid point. It's most certainly not one you can prove.
however I would like to see the look on superman's face when he see a 1000+ story building launched in his face.
Canon depiction of Jedi throwing anything around that size?
Oh wait, none exists.
How do you know that?
Because of Vader was that uber, he would have force crushed the rebel base on Hoth instead of landing and using uh, stormtroopers.
Also when vader benchpressed his master down the shaft he was able to resist the lightning that his master was pumping out, which is extreemly deadly.
He wasn't resisting it, it was occassionally hitting him but otherwise he could barely breathe. The lightning wasn't so "deadly" that Luke Skywalker, who has no defense against such things, couldn't survive prolonged shocking and then just stand up like nothing happened and drag his huge father around the space station. Deadly? Really?
lastly, I don't remember the death star being able to destoy entire fleets with force lightning, devoid an entire planet of life without harming a single blade of grass, or ripping the souls out of three powerfull jedi masters, or being able to rip a language out of the minds of an entire race of force sensitive race and replace it with another, the list goes on and on.
Except that all of those depictions are taken out of context and really, don't threaten Supes one damn bit. Supes can sleep in a sun. He can hold a white dwarf star in his hands:
So really, stop grabbing at straws.
I find it odd that Rogue Jedi let the debate scroll over two pages and passed by many references to comic feats (Which are Supes' canon) before he turns around and goes "Oh wait, this is movie Supes!". Sounds like a serious cop out to me, especially since the article he cited as the reason for the thread did not specify movie Supes at all. And later on in the thread, Rogue Jedi allowed my comic scans and argued against them without saying "No, this is movie supes only".
So yeah, the thread is Supes versus Jedi/Sith, not "Movie Supes versus Jedi/Sith". Don't change parameters because you're losing.