Originally posted by llagrok
He was out of it, he was near death.It's not like he absorbed the crunch energy either, he surfed across it and broke the containment. It's like saying you "channel" the waves when you're surfing. And the Surfer was crushed, didn't you see his skin? He was literally broken and falling apart.
He used a plot item, get with it.
Surfer was killed by the +energies+ of The Crunch, which were radiating throughout his body, eating it up from inside. that's the +official truth+ from the only creature in the story capable of diagnosing it, Galactus.
as I said before to another poster, why would Galactus go through the trouble of remarking how impressed he was with the Surfer's use of the Crunch energies, pointing out how he himself would have been challenged to handle such energies for any length of time.
at the end of the day, they couldn't show Surfer "channelling" the Crunch energies as they needed to be immense in size, as well as power, in order to 'drown' T&A, so they went with the 'surfing' imagine and had the dialogue +explicitly' state that Surfer was absorbing those energies as well as T&A were. just that he had Galactus to bring him back from death.
Originally posted by janus77
he was not 'near death', that's just convenient speculation. Teneberous assumed Surfer would die of the injuries he had inflicted but, clearly he didn't know the Surfer at all, for he didn't even imagine the threat the Surfer posed to him.Surfer was killed by the +energies+ of The Crunch, which were radiating throughout his body, eating it up from inside. that's the +official truth+ from the only creature in the story capable of diagnosing it, Galactus.
as I said before to another poster, why would Galactus go through the trouble of remarking how impressed he was with the Surfer's use of the Crunch energies, pointing out how he himself would have been challenged to handle such energies for any length of time.
at the end of the day, they couldn't show Surfer "channelling" the Crunch energies as they needed to be immense in size, as well as power, in order to 'drown' T&A, so they went with the 'surfing' imagine and had the dialogue +explicitly' state that Surfer was absorbing those energies as well as T&A were. just that he had Galactus to bring him back from death.
Bring him back from death? What the hell is going on in that head of yours? Dead people do not speak at all. THAT is just a convenient speculation
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The only dead ones are Tenebrous and Aegis, thanks to the crunch energies.
Originally posted by llagrok
Bring him back from death? What the hell is going on in that head of yours? Dead people do [b]not speak at all. THAT is just a convenient speculationhttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus2--1.jpg
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http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus2-040.jpgThe only dead ones are Tenebrous and Aegis, thanks to the crunch energies. [/B]
now go away, you have nothing of any value to contribute to this.
Originally posted by janus77You have nothing to contribute to this forum so leave.
that's quite poor, even by your lowly standards of reasoning.
what about the NEXT page, the one where Galactus STATES that Surfer is DYING as a result of the CRUNCH ENERGIES IN HIS BODY?now go away, you have nothing of any value to contribute to this.
Originally posted by janus77
you want to get pedantic, with me?
lol.ok so he was +dying+ and why was he dying? BECAUSE OF THE CRUNCH ENERGIES.
see that? that's your argument crumbling to dust under the weight of its own preposterousness.
now begone 🙂.
I'm not denying the fact that he was dying, that was my point in the first place. Did you miss the part where I said that the Surfer was falling apart?
Why would you say that Galactus brought him back from the dead, if he wasn't dead yet?
Originally posted by llagrok
I'm not denying the fact that he was dying, that was my point in the first place. Did you miss the part where I said that the Surfer was falling apart?Why would you say that Galactus brought him back from the dead, if he wasn't dead yet?
he wasn't dying as a result of T&A but of the CRUNCH ENERGIES. and he wasn't just "surfing" them, they were INSIDE OF HIS BODY, hence the dying.
honestly, do you want me to start giving English lessons in here?
Originally posted by janus77
go back and read what I wrote, what you initially +objected+ to.he wasn't dying as a result of T&A but of the CRUNCH ENERGIES. and he wasn't just "surfing" them, they were INSIDE OF HIS BODY, hence the dying.
honestly, do you want me to start giving English lessons in here?
Right, right 🙄
He was dying from T&A attack no matter what you claim. It's still possible to move while fatally injured.
Originally posted by llagrok
Right, right 🙄He was dying from T&A attack no matter what you claim. It's still possible to move while fatally injured.
however, your wishful fantasising aside, Surfer was dying as a result of the Crunch energies. the handling of which would even have strained Galactus.
this happens to be the position of the comic and with all due respect, I'll take that over your drivel 🙂.
What, exactly, is being argued here?
The Surfer was near-death because he channeled the energies of creation in order to destroy Tenebrous and Aegis. A feat that even Galactus said he'd trouble to replicate.
It was a bit of a plot-device victory for the Surfer, but it was still a very impressive feat of durability and creativity on his part.
But, what, exactly, does the Crunch have to do with the Surfer beating on the Hulk and Sentry?
Originally posted by janus77
'grok, seems nobody does purblind ignorance quite like you do 🙂.however, your wishful fantasising aside, Surfer was dying as a result of the Crunch energies. the handling of which would even have strained Galactus.
this happens to be the position of the comic and with all due respect, I'll take that over your drivel 🙂.
He was dying before he started channeling the crunch energies.
Originally posted by Soljer
What, exactly, is being argued here?The Surfer was near-death because he channeled the energies of creation in order to destroy Tenebrous and Aegis. A feat that even Galactus said he'd trouble to replicate.
It was a bit of a plot-device victory for the Surfer, but it was still a very impressive feat of durability and creativity on his part.
But, what, exactly, does the Crunch have to do with the Surfer beating on the Hulk and Sentry?
evidently to some, on-panel explanations are not as valid as their speculations.
apparently Surfer was dying from the beat down he got at the hands of Teneberous and Aegis, yet was still capable of channelling Crunch energies (said by Galactus to be enough to kill even him, with prolongued contact) and destroy T&A with it.
it's an argument that's spilled over from another thread/debate ... not of direct relevance here other than to show how obscenely durable Surfer is.
Originally posted by llagrok
He was dying before he started channeling the crunch energies.
and Galactus was twittering on about Surfer's impressive use of Crunch energies and how those energies would even kill Galactus with extended contact, was for what?
Galactus said Surfer was dying as a result of Crunch energies. you said ... well, you're irrelevant really 🙂.
Originally posted by janus77
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yes, sure...and Galactus was twittering on about Surfer's impressive use of Crunch energies and how those energies would even kill Galactus with extended contact, was for what?
Galactus said Surfer was dying as a result of Crunch energies. you said ... well, you're irrelevant really 🙂.
The Surfer was dying from the Crunch energies, yes. And he was dying before he started channeling them. I know this is hard to understand, but please try. I'll make it easy.
Let's say that this guy gets beaten to near death and left alone. Then he swallows a lot of poison and dangerous drugs, before spewing that poison on the ones that beat him up. He's dying from the drugs alright, but he was also dying before swallowing them.
