Originally posted by King_MungiI agree with most of this but again I look at characters losses as well. Most people argue that when Darkseid loses its because he wasnt at the top of his game which is hogwash.
Or merely different writer interpretations, as no character is written the same. Powers change by the writers own need for the story, look at Wolverine. In one story he got seriously hurt from a plane crash, and then the next issue gets all his flesh incinerated off his body, and was fine in a short period. Those issues were back to back to each other, even done by the same writer and showed a vastly higher level of healing. Technically you should look at the average showings of the character to get a guage on their power not just one or two showings.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree with most of this but again I look at characters losses as well. Most people argue that when Darkseid loses its because he wasnt at the top of his game which is hogwash.
As do I, but Mantis doesn't have a bad win/loss record. So I don't see why Superman losing to Kalibak and Mantis is a bad thing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he should have beaten them. It shows how he can be ko'd and rather easily at that.Orion had no problem handling them.
Errr...why? Kalibak just recently got upgraded and showed he was stronger then orin. If anything Superman shouldn't have put up that much of a fight 😬
Orin blasted them with the Astro Force, but we didn't see what happened or how he beat them or even if he did. As the next time we see them the New God killer got them
Originally posted by King_MungiKalibak is an idiot. Mantis and Kalibak had Superman dead to rights but he was saved. Orion proved he was superior in this situation while Supes proved not up to the challenge.
Errr...why? Kalibak just recently got upgraded and showed he was stronger then orin. If anything Superman shouldn't have put up that much of a fight 😬Orin blasted them with the Astro Force, but we didn't see what happened or how he beat them or even if he did. As the next time we see them the New God killer got them
Kalibak isnt above top tier and he basically blasted Supes. Supes wasnt all that durable here and this brings down his average bigtime. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kalibak is an idiot. Mantis and Kalibak had Superman dead to rights but he was saved. Orion proved he was superior in this situation while Supes proved not up to the challenge.Kalibak isnt above top tier and he basically blasted Supes. Supes wasnt all that durable here and this brings down his average bigtime. 🙂
Ok? Of course they did, and they should considering their power and what they have done in the past 😬. How did Orin prove superior? Did we see him fight them? Did we see him beat them? None to all accounts. We don't even know if it was Orin that even beat them
Apparently after his upgrade he was, he even took a nuclear explosion point blank and he survied with no physical damage, but was knocked out. Like I mentioned earlier, Kalibak strength after his upgrade showed he was superior to Orin...so why is it hard to believe Kalibak did what he did?
Originally posted by King_MungiBut even with his upgrade he isnt in Thanos league and isnt anything that special. So anyone around Kalibak's level can knock out Superman. 🙂 Im cool with that. Thanos would have him utterly pounded into the floor if Kalibak can ko him. 💃
Ok? Of course they did, and they should considering their power and what they have done in the past 😬. How did Orin prove superior? Did we see him fight them? Did we see him beat them? None to all accounts. We don't even know if it was Orin that even beat themApparently after his upgrade he was, he even took a nuclear explosion point blank and he survied with no physical damage, but was knocked out. Like I mentioned earlier, Kalibak strength after his upgrade showed he was superior to Orin...so why is it hard to believe Kalibak did what he did?
Originally posted by quanchi112Upgraded Kalibak is at the least mid herald now and he suprised Superman with his new power. Superman faced both Mantis and Kalibak at the same time and stalemated them when did Kalibak ko him? Like i said bait thread for you to bash Superman or Darkseid or both.
But even with his upgrade he isnt in Thanos league and isnt anything that special. So anyone around Kalibak's level can knock out Superman. 🙂 Im cool with that. Thanos would have him utterly pounded into the floor if Kalibak can ko him. 💃
Originally posted by iceman24567Supes was out basically and had to be saved by Orion. This puts the man of steels durability in question. I have seen him get ko'd by Cyborg with ease and not knocked silly by Kalibak in the past 6 months. Supes has done worse against Kalibak than he has against Darkseid. 😛
Upgraded Kalibak is at the least mid herald now and he suprised Superman with his new power. Superman faced both Mantis and Kalibak at the same time and stalemated them when did Kalibak ko him? Like i said bait thread for you to bash Superman or Darkseid or both.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes was out basically and had to be saved by Orion. This puts the man of steels durability in question. I have seen him get ko'd by Cyborg with ease and not knocked silly by Kalibak in the past 6 months. Supes has done worse against Kalibak than he has against Darkseid. 😛
Why do you have such an unhealthy obsession with Thanos, and why do you keep on making idiotic bait threads that invlolve Thanos, Darkseid, and Superman? Can you answer me this without beating around the bush? Please do so.
The first couple threads were bearable, but now it's just grating on my, and everyone else's nerves.
Originally posted by quanchi112No Superman was at a disadvantage he was trying to save lives Scott Free's life and the people that lived in the city stop trying to use it as a low showing and once again with the character bashing calm down like i said baiting is a horrible way to debate. Thanos got pwned by Drax and that fury kid and lets ignore the context and say his durability is in question.
Supes was out basically and had to be saved by Orion. This puts the man of steels durability in question. I have seen him get ko'd by Cyborg with ease and not knocked silly by Kalibak in the past 6 months. Supes has done worse against Kalibak than he has against Darkseid. 😛