Thanos/Darkseid vs Superman

Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread is about Thanos so why not bring him up. 😬

With all of Superman's showings him getting knocked for a loop by Kalibak is a bad showing imo. He has beaten much smarter tougher badasses.

Hulk isnt an idiot 99 percent of the time. Its about context my friend. 🙂

Because I wasn't addressing him clearly. You said Mantis and Kalibak beating Superman is a bad showing. False. Then you made the arguement having a low intelligence makes you weak. False.

How? In Kalibak LAST apperance he WTFOWNED Orion [Superman's equal], Mister Miracle and was dominating Firestorm till he did the point blank nuke attack. Mantis on his own has owned Dr.Fate, Wonder Woman and Hal Jordan at the same time. He even on a seperate occasion had a one-hit knock out on Hal Jordan and Dr.Fate [who was invisable]

Actually he pretty much is 😬 and how am I taking things out of context?

Originally posted by janus77
some of Hulk's best feats are when he still retains intelligence. read Planet Hulk, some of the best feats of his in recent history. all while intelligent and de-powered (physically vulnerable).

WWH feats don't compare to resisting anti-matter poles, or thunderclapping a dimension away, punching a time-storm, creating earthquakes merely just jumping that felt across the world which was unintentional. WWH is great, but majority of his showings are when he is an idiot. Also WWH is only a breif period of time compared to Hulk's entire history. That's my point, he has been a "moron" for practically his entire career. Now would you say he is weak because he was a tad slow?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Because I wasn't addressing him clearly. You said Mantis and Kalibak beating Superman is a bad showing. False. Then you made the arguement having a low intelligence makes you weak. False.

How? In Kalibak LAST apperance he WTFOWNED Orion [Superman's equal], Mister Miracle and was dominating Firestorm till he did the point blank nuke attack. Mantis on his own has owned Dr.Fate, Wonder Woman and Hal Jordan at the same time. He even on a seperate occasion had a one-hit knock out on Hal Jordan and Dr.Fate [who was invisable]

Actually he pretty much is 😬 and how am I taking things out of context?

WWH feats don't compare to resisting anti-matter poles, or thunderclapping a dimension away, punching a time-storm, creating earthquakes merely just jumping that felt across the world which was unintentional. WWH is great, but majority of his showings are when he is an idiot. Also WWH is only a breif period of time compared to Hulk's entire history. That's my point, he has been a "moron" for practically his entire career. Now would you say he is weak because he was a tad slow?

Ok and with regards to Orion being bested by Kalibak then that is a bad showing for him as well. Kalibak imo isnt superior at all to Orion or Superman but with the right punch can level them.

This thread is about Thanos and Darkseid and how they compare to Superman. So again me bringing them up is fine and dandy because they are in the thread. Kalibak's so called lucky punch proves that Superman can be downed by muscle. His durability is nowhere near Thanos' either and is proven by this fight and his buttraping at the hands of Henshaw. 😉

Earlier you brought up that Hulk is an idiot ninety nine percent of the time which is completely false. Hulk is downright idiotic at times and can be a genius at other times also.

Kalibak is indeed an idiot and that makes him weak in general. That is a glaring weakness and one that can be exposed. To say that ones inferior intelligence doesnt make you weak is ludicrous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The way that Mantis is portrayed nowadays pales in comparison to his higher showings.

Like what? Superman Confidential? What else?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Ok and with regards to Orion being bested by Kalibak then that is a bad showing for him as well. Kalibak imo isnt superior at all to Orion or Superman but with the right punch can level them.

Wow..simply wow, you may have claimed that BEFORE he got an UPGRADE. As currently Kalibak was/is superior to Orin as shown in Firestorm. So how is it a bad showing for Orin against a character who basically has a new level of power? 😬

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firestorm034-021.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firestorm034-022.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112

This thread is about Thanos and Darkseid and how they compare to Superman. So again me bringing them up is fine and dandy because they are in the thread. Kalibak's so called lucky punch proves that Superman can be downed by muscle. His durability is nowhere near Thanos' either and is proven by this fight and his buttraping at the hands of Henshaw. 😉

Wow and you clearly missed the entire point didn't you? You said losing to Kalibak and Mantis is a bad showing, which is in fact is not. No where did I address anything with Thanos, but called you on your interuptation of a event which really is a huge feat Superman did what he did. Superman can be downed by muscle? Dur! Who said he couldn't?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Earlier you brought up that Hulk is an idiot ninety nine percent of the time which is completely false. Hulk is downright idiotic at times and can be a genius at other times also.

Not really, as basically his entire career he is portrayed as being a moron. Majority of his higgest showings are when he is Savage, so you saying lack of intelligence makes you weak is wrong and faulty 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112

Kalibak is indeed an idiot and that makes him weak in general. That is a glaring weakness and one that can be exposed. To say that ones inferior intelligence doesnt make you weak is ludicrous.

LULZ! Doomsday is a moron, yet he steam rolls through people. This logic is faulty, as in the past before his recent upgrade he has taken it to Superman, Orin and even defeated Kyle Rayner. So I guess Drax, Shaggy Man, Doomsday, etc are weak eh? lulz

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like what? Superman Confidential? What else?

Wow..simply wow, you may have claimed that BEFORE he got an UPGRADE. As currently Kalibak was/is superior to Orin as shown in Firestorm. So how is it a bad showing for Orin against a character who basically has a new level of power? 😬

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firestorm034-021.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firestorm034-022.jpg

Wow and you clearly missed the entire point didn't you? You said losing to Kalibak and Mantis is a bad showing, which is in fact is not. No where did I address anything with Thanos, but called you on your interuptation of a event which really is a huge feat Superman did what he did. Superman can be downed by muscle? Dur! Who said he couldn't?

Not really, as basically his entire career he is portrayed as being a moron. Majority of his higgest showings are when he is Savage, so you saying lack of intelligence makes you weak is wrong and faulty 😬

LULZ! Doomsday is a moron, yet he steam rolls through people. This logic is faulty, as in the past before his recent upgrade he has taken it to Superman, Orin and even defeated Kyle Rayner. So I guess Drax, Shaggy Man, Doomsday, etc are weak eh? lulz

I do claim that losing to these two is a bad showing. Considering wha Superman has went through in the past losing to these numbskulls and getting his head caved in lowers his durability in my mind. 😉

Keep avoiding Thanos even though he is in this thread. 😂

You claimed I believe that 99 percent of Hulk showings that he is a tard which is utterly false. Now you want to only talk of Savage Hulk and ignore the rest. Okey dokey. I guess when you think of the Hulk its only the Savage Hulk,huh?

Doomsday is an utter moron and I fault and kinda laugh at those who cant deal with him. Just bfr him but no the try to engage him head on. His lack of intelligence is a glaring weakness hence the reason why he always loses even though you cant permanently kill him. 😂

Drax failed to kill Thanos when he was extremely powerful and extremely stupid. When he lost some of his awesome power and gained intelligence then did he become even more dangerous. Bricks can be scary powerful but intelligent ones are twice as dangerous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm...Orion saved Superman by himself and took on both Kalibak and Mantis. This scan of him holding Orions arm really proves they didnt have a complete fight.

and you know this how? We don't know if it was Orin that defeated them, as next we seem them their dead from the God Killer. Errrr..Orin was out for the rest of the issue 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112

I do claim that losing to these two is a bad showing. Considering wha Superman has went through in the past losing to these numbskulls and getting his head caved in lowers his durability in my mind. 😉

And you would be wrong, and once again Kalibak is different from what he did and what he was in the past. How many times do I have to say that?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Keep avoiding Thanos even though he is in this thread. 😂

Are you really that dense? I'm not debating who wins or who loses or even adressing Thanos or even Darkseid. I brought up the points you said losing to Mantis and Kalibak is a low showing. False. Then you claimed if your a moron your weak. False.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You claimed I believe that 99 percent of Hulk showings that he is a tard which is utterly false. Now you want to only talk of Savage Hulk and ignore the rest. Okey dokey. I guess when you think of the Hulk its only the Savage Hulk,huh?

Right, because WWH or Professor Hulk made up most of his carreer history right? Uh huh. Their only a small speck of time in his entire career. Also what am I ignoring? Basically his ENTIRE career he was Savage Hulk. Uuuuh...

Originally posted by quanchi112

Doomsday is an utter moron and I fault and kinda laugh at those who cant deal with him. Just bfr him but no the try to engage him head on. His lack of intelligence is a glaring weakness hence the reason why he always loses even though you cant permanently kill him. 😂

Errr..that's all people do to Doomsday is BFR as they can't beat him one on one. So clearly that shows he is superior in strength and power where people have to BFR in order to surive 😬 So how does that make you weak again?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Drax failed to kill Thanos when he was extremely powerful and extremely stupid. When he lost some of his awesome power and gained intelligence then did he become even more dangerous. Bricks can be scary powerful but intelligent ones are twice as dangerous.

uuuuuh...your missing the point again. This once again has nothing to do with Thanos. Drax is stupid as he is has planet destroying feats, it goes with your comment stupid people = weak.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and you know this how? We don't know if it was Orin that defeated them, as next we seem them their dead from the God Killer. Errrr..Orin was out for the rest of the issue 😬

And you would be wrong, and once again Kalibak is different from what he did and what he was in the past. How many times do I have to say that?

Are you really that dense? I'm not debating who wins or who loses or even adressing Thanos or even Darkseid. I brought up the points you said losing to Mantis and Kalibak is a low showing. False. Then you claimed if your a moron your weak. False.

Right, because WWH or Professor Hulk made up most of his carreer history right? Uh huh. Their only a small speck of time in his entire career. Also what am I ignoring? Basically his ENTIRE career he was Savage Hulk. Uuuuh...

Errr..that's all people do to Doomsday is BFR as they can't beat him one on one. So clearly that shows he is superior in strength and power where people have to BFR in order to surive 😬 So how does that make you weak again?

uuuuuh...your missing the point again. This once again has nothing to do with Thanos. Drax is stupid as he is has planet destroying feats, it goes with your comment stupid people = weak.

Orion showed up and Kalibak and Mantis went bye bye. Supes was saved. 😄

you said 99 percent. Dont avoid and back off of what you said. Savage Hulk doesnt comprise 99 percent of his showings. 😛

When Doomsday showed up on Apokolips and the fact that Darkseid didnt bfr him showed his lack of braincells. Use your brain when dealing with Doomsday but Ds didnt and got buttraped because of it. 😂

Lack of intelligence is a weakness. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Moronic people has weaknesses that can be exposed. Hence the reason why humans rule the animals even though physically the could dominate us. 😂 A brain is a very powerful tool,wouldnt you agree? 😂

Except when even the moronic character has to much power for the intelligent people to deal with. Basically against any of the uber dumb characters they can't defeat them they have to resort to BFR. That still doesn't make you weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Orion showed up and Kalibak and Mantis went bye bye. Supes was saved. 😄

and you know this how? All we saw is Orin blast them, but in his last apperance Kalibak took a nuke from point blank. So it would take more then that to put them down. Like I mentioned we don't even know Orin did defeat them

Originally posted by quanchi112

you said 99 percent. Dont avoid and back off of what you said. Savage Hulk doesnt comprise 99 percent of his showings. 😛

Oh please endulge me, what are some of Professor Hulk feats that can match Savage or Mindless Hulk?

Originally posted by quanchi112

When Doomsday showed up on Apokolips and the fact that Darkseid didnt bfr him showed his lack of braincells. Use your brain when dealing with Doomsday but Ds didnt and got buttraped because of it. 😂

He thought he killed him so there was no need, and then he was taken out and no one had the power to do so afterwards. It killed a Guardian to BFR Doomsday. So once again if people are forced to BFR someone that makes you weak now?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Lack of intelligence is a weakness. 😉

It can be used as a weakness, but doesn't make them weak. As even the most moronic characters still are uber

Mungi, stop saying "Orin!!!" dammit

Originally posted by batdude123
Mungi, stop saying "Orin!!!" dammit

😂

I was getting sort of annoyed at that too.
The NEW GOD is ORION.
ORIN is/was AQUAMAN.,

I know I keep doing that, I even corrected myself in other threads but I still keep doing it 🙁

Why is this thread still open?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except when even the moronic character has to much power for the intelligent people to deal with. Basically against any of the uber dumb characters they can't defeat them they have to resort to BFR. That still doesn't make you weak.

and you know this how? All we saw is Orin blast them, but in his last apperance Kalibak took a nuke from point blank. So it would take more then that to put them down. Like I mentioned we don't even know Orin did defeat them

Oh please endulge me, what are some of Professor Hulk feats that can match Savage or Mindless Hulk?

He thought he killed him so there was no need, and then he was taken out and no one had the power to do so afterwards. It killed a Guardian to BFR Doomsday. So once again if people are forced to BFR someone that makes you weak now?

It can be used as a weakness, but doesn't make them weak. As even the most moronic characters still are uber

Uhm we dont see everything in comics and to question certain events is good but it also can be annoying. We know Orion saved his ass because we put two and two together imo.

It doesnt matter about feats of Professor Hulk and what not. You said he is an idiot 99 percent of the time. Did you miss WW Hulk completely? He was more powerful than he had ever been and kept his intelligence with it. 😉

I never said that a dumb brute cant be uber but Kalibak certainly isnt. 😂

Doomsday could be bfr'd over and over again and be clueless about it. He would be easy to deal with but if you were trapped in a room hed be a nightmare. People used their brain to defeat Doomsday in hunter and prey and it worked. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Why is this thread still open?

I was wondering the same thing.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I was wondering the same thing.

It took Waverider's power and a motherbox to find a way to dump Doomsday into Entropy. And Superman would have died if Waverider hadn't rezzed and saved him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm to bfr someone and for that character to be clueless about what basiclaly just happened to them is a weakness. To say that it isnt one is just plain laughable.

Lulz, so basically your only option for these characters is BFR? So once again how does that make them weak? A Guardian died to BFR Doomsday, and even "smart" people can get BFR. If people have the ability to BFR anyone they could do it on smart people to yes? As it's very hard to stop that isn't it? Yes. So once again how does getting BFR make you weak when the person with the ability to BFR can do it to practically anyone?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Uhm we dont see everything in comics and to question certain events is good but it also can be annoying. We know Orion saved his ass because we put two and two together imo.

Exactally yet your still claiming on what happened, when there is no proof to say it did happen your way. OOoooooh..so we just assume things, without evidence right? Or merely just side with your ideas? 😬 I keep saying this over and over again, but it's falling on deaf ears, in Kalibak's last apperance he defeated Mr.Miracle and Orion with ease, and took a nuke point blank and had no physical damage. You think that one explosion is more powerful then a nuke?

Originally posted by quanchi112

It doesnt matter about feats of Professor Hulk and what not. You said he is an idiot 99 percent of the time. Did you miss WW Hulk completely? He was more powerful than he had ever been and kept his intelligence with it. 😉

and he is, as Professor Hulk or even WWH were short periods of time. So which goes with your point being a moron means your weak when Savage Hulk has his best feats as Savage. So what are Professor Hulk's feats that match a dumb Hulk? No I didn't miss it, but really half of what he did could have been done by Savage Hulk 😬 Also yeah and how long did that last? *snaps his finger* Damn, not long at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I never said that a dumb brute cant be uber but Kalibak certainly isnt. 😂

No you merely said if your a moron your weak, and as per Kalibak's last showing before DoTNG yes he is. 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112

Doomsday could be bfr'd over and over again and be clueless about it. He would be easy to deal with but if you were trapped in a room hed be a nightmare. People used their brain to defeat Doomsday in hunter and prey and it worked. 🙂

Sweet, so that makes you weak now? As they couldn't physically beat them, so they are forced to send them away.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It took Waverider's power and a motherbox to find a way to dump Doomsday into Entropy. And Superman would have died if Waverider hadn't rezzed and saved him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Lulz, so basically your only option for these characters is BFR? So once again how does that make them weak? A Guardian died to BFR Doomsday, and even "smart" people can get BFR. If people have the ability to BFR anyone they could do it on smart people to yes? As it's very hard to stop that isn't it? Yes. So once again how does getting BFR make you weak when the person with the ability to BFR can do it to practically anyone?

Exactally yet your still claiming on what happened, when there is no proof to say it did happen your way. OOoooooh..so we just assume things, without evidence right? Or merely just side with your ideas? 😬 I keep saying this over and over again, but it's falling on deaf ears, in Kalibak's last apperance he defeated Mr.Miracle and Orion with ease, and took a nuke point blank and had no physical damage. You think that one explosion is more powerful then a nuke?

and he is, as Professor Hulk or even WWH were short periods of time. So which goes with your point being a moron means your weak when Savage Hulk has his best feats as Savage. So what are Professor Hulk's feats that match a dumb Hulk? No I didn't miss it, but really half of what he did could have been done by Savage Hulk 😬 Also yeah and how long did that last? *snaps his finger* Damn, not long at all.

No you merely said if your a moron your weak, and as per Kalibak's last showing before DoTNG yes he is. 😬

Sweet, so that makes you weak now? As they couldn't physically beat them, so they are forced to send them away.

A guardian also died to bfr Prime. The guardians seem kinda stupid if you ask me. 😂 This is why it shocks me. Everyone Doomsday faced actually forgot their abilities. In this forum that doesnt have to happen for a storyline my friend. Doomsday lacks a brain and that is a major weakness. 😉

I said if your a moron then you have a weakness and yes that is correct. Kalibak died didnt he? 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday really has no intelligence whatsoever, so to bfr him in space would really do away with him and you wouldnt have a scratch on you. He really couldnt come back for you either because he isnt smart enough. 😂

Which goes with my point how does being dumb make you weak? Or the fact he doesn't come back as he doesnt have the POWER to?

Originally posted by quanchi112

A guardian also died to bfr Prime. The guardians seem kinda stupid if you ask me. 😂 This is why it shocks me. Everyone Doomsday faced actually forgot their abilities. In this forum that doesnt have to happen for a storyline my friend. Doomsday lacks a brain and that is a major weakness. 😉

Yeah and Prime was taking on everyone. Just stop, your always constantly trying to demeen DC characters and picking and choosing what you will accept. Everyone forgets their powers against Doomsday? Funny, I seem to recall you going about how there was nothing wrong with Doomsday beating Darkseid 😬 So why do you keep brining up low showings for DS, when this isn't comics or a storyline? 😬 ...picking and choosing

Originally posted by quanchi112

I said if your a moron then you have a weakness and yes that is correct. Kalibak died didnt he? 😂

It is a weakness, but really doesn't matter much as there are many uber dumb characters who steam roll people. Even before his upgrade Kalibak could match SUperman, so now he got further upgraded it's PIS he knocked Superman out? Errr? Yeah from the God Killer, the same one who killed Orion and Takion