T-1000 vs Alien Queen

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While the Queen is smart I will give you that, she is also a Queen and not part of the solider cast. As I have said before it also depends on which version of the Queen we are talking about here, the one in the first movie was very slow and dumb compared to the one in AVP. Hell she was held back by Ripley with a forklift robot and it couldn’t get to her or do much else, now you got something with about the same strength and FAR faster speed and reflexes. This fight wouldn’t last more than a minute or two; the T-1000 could easily cut off a limb or claw and impale her. In the 3rd movie it took the soldiers that were locked up months before they decided to sacrifice one of their own to escape, granted the Queen is more intelligent but I don’t see here coming up with this tactic in just the first minutes of the fight. All she will start off with is common knowledge about her opponent and really that is only strength and can’t transform into complex machines and nothing about its capability to resist acid.

Darth Martin Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
Predator's metal is stronger than anything on Earth. Yet the alien's acid dissolved right through it like nothing. That acid can break down the chemical bonds of any Earthly alloy. So I'm pretty sure if that acid gets on the T-1000 its going to do some permanent damage.

I honestly think the Queen wins or at least they kill each other.

You also have to realize though that that may not have been there most durable. All Yautja Combi-Sticks(spears) and those ceremonial daggers are unbreakable. The Yautja in AVP were Young-Bloods. They were given the wristblades that were vulnerable to the acid to give them a challenge. Whereas a Warrior, Elder, or perhaps a Blood would have the acid-resistant wristblades. Just had to clear that up. 🙂

h1a8 Senior Member
Originally posted by Darth Martin
You also have to realize though that that may not have been there most durable. All Yautja Combi-Sticks(spears) and those ceremonial daggers are unbreakable. The Yautja in AVP were Young-Bloods. They were given the wristblades that were vulnerable to the acid to give them a challenge. Whereas a Warrior, Elder, or perhaps a Blood would have the acid-resistant wristblades. Just had to clear that up. 🙂

Ok! That makes sense.
Thanks!

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Thanks H1a8 I'd forgotten T800's tutorial: the part where he says it ceases to function without 10% of its mass.

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Originally posted by Hitman911
the T-1000 has never displayed that type of liquid consistancy. I'm not saying it can't be done, i just never saw it.
I would disagree, in the movie where it becomes thin enough to walk on, oozing through the hole in the glass of the helicopter and sucking in the punch from Arnold.

Darth Martin Senior Member

I'm starting to lean towrds T-1000. If he can somehow liquify himself to get inside her body and screw with something(stay away from acid) he could bring her dow. Terminators are smart and never stop at trying to complete there mission.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Hitman911
the T-1000 has never displayed that type of liquid consistancy. I'm not saying it can't be done, i just never saw it.
Indeed. The closest it came was when it flowed through the bars. There's also the question of how fast could it react that way. But what the hell: the Alien Queen is being depicted as using her blood as a weapon. In the Queen's appearances I'm aware of, she never did that. Her main techniques appeared to be grabbing, rending, biting, stabbing. The two times Aliens used their blood as tools meant Aliens had to die.

Originally posted by h1a8
Aliens don't fight that way. They basically eat you bit by bit...

Note: The T-1000 can't function if more than 10% of its body is missing.

I missed that. Recalibrating......I give the Queen 1/3 (up from 1/5).

Also, I fail to see how the T-1000 can cut her face off when she is more than 3 times as tall.
She hunches down a lot, especially if she's coming to take a bite.

Questions at Large: Once the T-1000 makes physical contact with her, wouldn't it be able to morph into an Alien? Would there be any advantage to it?

Darth Martin Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindship
Questions at Large: Once the T-1000 makes physical contact with her, wouldn't he be able to morph into an Alien? Would there be any advantage to it?
I doubt it could due to the mass of the creature's size. T-1000 doesn't have that much liquid. I'm sure it could morph into a Yautja though if it made contact with one. 😈

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
I doubt it could due to the mass of the creature's size. T-1000 doesn't have that much liquid. I'm sure it could morph into a Yautja though if it made contact with one. 😈
Maybe one of the solders 😱

Question though, how do the Aliens see? I could see that the T-1000 could be a problem given the fact that it doesn't have any biology so no flesh smell or normal body heat.

Darth Martin Senior Member

What do you mean by soldiers?

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
What do you mean by soldiers?
The normal aliens that you see, much like a solider ant and the queen.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
how do the Aliens see?

I would figure through some other window of the EM spectrum, perhaps radio waves. Radio waves would penetrate the protective, outer shell of the face to reach the "eyes" underneath.

Darth Martin Senior Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
The normal aliens that you see, much like a solider ant and the queen.
That's all good but he has to make physical contact with it.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
That's all good but he has to make physical contact with it.
Not that hard, not like they are really dogging. 😉

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Originally posted by Mindship
I would figure through some other window of the EM spectrum, perhaps radio waves. Radio waves would penetrate the protective, outer shell of the face to reach the "eyes" underneath.
I always thought more on the lines of heat and smell or even echo location.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I always thought more on the lines of heat and smell or even echo location.
Not sure about echo location: usually you would have the creature make some kind of sound, so the audience is cued in to a sonar sense (I'm thinking like with the creatures in "Pitch Black"😉. On the other hand, they do have high-pitched voices.

Smell? Well, I don't see any nostrils on the Alien face either (not that that necessarily means anything).

Now as for heat/infrared: good candidate, another good EM window. The only question I have about it is: the Predators see by this method; the filmmakers have made that clear. However, the Aliens have never been depicted as seeing this way. But I imagine it's never been made clear how the Aliens see cuz that makes them seem more, well, alien.

Maybe they see the same way the motion detectors work: they're sensitive to changes in air pressure.

Oh, wait. Nix smell and changes in air pressure. If either were the case, the Aliens would not have been able to "see" Brad Douriff through the thick observation glass in "Resurrection." That might also nix echo location. Not sure.

Maybe one of the soldiers 😱
That's more what I was thinking. Would there be any advantage to the T-1000 doing this?