Punisher vs Wolverine

Started by Battlehammer58 pages
Originally posted by Sado22
The punisher owning wolverine. Notice how much Logan's senses helped him 🙄

You do realize that was not only the most inconsistent arc, but also the most pis.

ya The author of the arc for gott logan had senses...........he drank a bottle of acid...........

Spiderman for some reason got tricked by fake bombs even though he has a spider senses.......

The author of the issue has stated he hates super hero's and has shown to be bias and write reiduclous thing time and again.

Punisher caught the hulk in that arc...........

please don't use such a pis filled comic as evidence. Oh the arc was also ignored in comics and has never been mention since. Hell I not even sure it cannon any more.

Originally posted by Sado22
okay....but he still doesn't have an adamantium crotch gaurd 😆
frank blows his penis off again and roadrolls him.

no, FRANK CASTLE IS! 🙂


funny thing about that issue it was written by ennis the hero hater.

Nother funny thing is frank does not have the plot device of a steam roller.

That last thing is, that blowing off his dick won't put him down and one stupid low showing does not conteract all the times he been gun,punch, blow up and so forth and kept comming.

Wolverine pwnz him

Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny thing about that issue it was written by ennis the hero hater.

Nother funny thing is frank does not have the plot device of a steam roller.

That last thing is, that blowing off his dick won't put him down and one stupid low showing does not conteract all the times he been gun,punch, blow up and so forth and kept comming.

The Hood shot off his dick and put him down 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
The Hood shot off his dick and put him down 🙂

actaully he dident. The hood fled and Logan decided to heal instead of giving chase and that was after hood turned into a huge demon.

Not, he got shot in the nuts and he was laying down by the bar, then the Hood left. Before the Hood left he said something like I hope that grows back, but Logan didn't even attempt to get up.

Shot in the nuts puts Logan down, deal with it.

That's his kryptonite.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
You do realize that was not only the most inconsistent arc, but also the most pis.

why am I not surprised you pulled out the old PIS argument? 🙄

Originally posted by Master-Borg
why am I not surprised you pulled out the old PIS argument? 🙄

arguement? It a fact that it was pis. Punisher beat the hulk in it.......spiderman got tricked by fake bombs..........wolverine drank acid.......it was the dumbest story I have ever read and has been ignored by marvel completely from what ive seen.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not, he got shot in the nuts and he was laying down by the bar, then the Hood left. Before the Hood left he said something like I hope that grows back, but Logan didn't even attempt to get up.

Shot in the nuts puts Logan down, deal with it.

That's his kryptonite.


Thats not what happen at all. Have you even read the issue? Logan falls back from the bullets and he and hood are sitting there and Logan goes "mine will heal yours won't" or some such. Then hood tranforms into a demon the scuffle a little and hood runs away. Logan was still quite able to fight and showed he was by you know fighting again.

what you just said was simply wrong.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
has been ignored by marvel completely from what ive seen.

how exactly has it been ignored by Marvel?

just because you don't like it, does not make it PIS. You have a personal grudge against Ennis because he portrays Wolverine accurately...btw, if he hates superheroes...why did he make DD beat Logan, isn't DD a superhero too?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
how exactly has it been ignored by Marvel?

Hmm lets see it never been brought up before.

Wolverine and punisher last fight wolverine states "you should not have come back for more frank the last time I went easy on you" then punches punisher and says "I dident like the steam roller much either".

He was referring to there first fight and saying it was the last time they had battled..........and it was after that issue were punisher took on wolverine DD and spiderman..........

so yes it was ignored as if it never happen.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
just because you don't like it, does not make it PIS.

True, but what makes it pis is the fact it completely ignores characters abilities and powers.

Like a person with superhuman senses drinking acid

or a person with spider sense beign tricked by fake bombs

or punisher taking out Hulk..........

Originally posted by Master-Borg
You have a personal grudge against Ennis because he portrays Wolverine accurately..

You would say that. You wonder why I called you a lair when you say you read wolverien comics and then you state nonsenses like this.

Ya wolverine drinking acid when he has superhuman senses is real accurate.........

or how about Logan being a complete idiot the entire arc.........ya thats accurate

Oh and spiderman being a dumbass and getting tricked by fake bombs is real accurate.

oh and hulk getting taken out by punisher is real accurate.

please don't even bother to talk if your gunna be a morron.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
..btw, if he hates superheroes...why did he make DD beat Logan, isn't DD a superhero too?

He hates super power heros. The more power the more he hates them. DD was the only one that was not written like a morron and even he was written badly.

DD only has super senses that not a big deal for powers.

Oh and in the same arc Logan beat spiderman rather easily, but you don't see me using it

What a load of garbage. It's canon and it's not PIS. Ennis even admits in the comic itself, that any one of the trio could take Castle apart in a straight up fight. Which is why he has to use his ingenuity and unpredictability to even stand a chance. Hell, did you read teh part where Daredevil catches up to him and starts rocking him? You merely hate the fact that Wolverine got punked in the comic by both Daredevil and Punisher. Too bad for your fanboyism that it's not the first time either has happened.

And I don't know about you, but he slowed the Hulk down by making a drugged up Banner eat several pounds of explosive and then detonating them inside his gut. You make it sound like he punched Hulk out.

Punisher with prep can easily take Wolverine to task. Especially when a single bullet to the eye took him down in 'Messiah Complex' and a groin shot slowed him down in New Avengers.

Punisher 6/10.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What a load of garbage. It's canon and it's not PIS. Ennis even admits in the comic itself, that any one of the trio could take Castle apart in a straight up fight. Which is why he has to use his ingenuity and unpredictability to even stand a chance. Hell, did you read teh part where Daredevil catches up to him and starts rocking him? You merely hate the fact that Wolverine got punked in the comic by both Daredevil and Punisher. Too bad for your fanboyism that it's not the first time either has happened.

And I don't know about you, but he slowed the Hulk down by making a drugged up Banner eat several pounds of explosive and then detonating them inside his gut. You make it sound like he punched Hulk out.

Punisher with prep can easily take Wolverine to task. Especially when a single bullet to the eye took him down in 'Messiah Complex' and a groin shot slowed him down in New Avengers.

Punisher 6/10.

thank you for correcting the biased nonsense that Battlehammer likes to throw out

Originally posted by Soljer
He's effectively immune to any tranquilizer that Frank would be able to grab within an hour.

Frank calls Fury and gets a trank within an hour 😄

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What a load of garbage. It's canon

Yet it never been referenced and was completely ignored as being his and wolverines last fight.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
and it's not PIS.

But see it is. It went against the characters abilities, powers and intellectual level while playing up another.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Which is why he has to use his ingenuity and unpredictability to even stand a chance.

He not that unpredictable and the rest of them acted like morons………..

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hell, did you read teh part where Daredevil catches up to him and starts rocking him?

Yes and by rock you mean get shoved out a window and getting his arm dislocated and punisher being quite fine as rock your sadly mistaken.

DD was the only one of the three who was not written like a complete idiot.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You merely hate the fact that Wolverine got punked in the comic by both Daredevil and Punisher.

Not at all. I hate the way that ennis ignored the characters abilities, intellect and powers while playing up punisher.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Too bad for your fanboyism that it's not the first time either has happened.

Fanboyism? Please most of your comments are crap.

are you referring to there first encounter which was no were near as retarded as this issue.

In which he one due to plot device? I can live with that. At least in that issue his powers and intellect were not completely ignored and fluctuating through out the issue.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And I don't know about you, but he slowed the Hulk down by making a drugged up Banner eat several pounds of explosive and then detonating them inside his gut.

The explosives weren’t even damaging enough to blast a whole through him and he still went down……..

Even though the hulks take far worse and kept coming, like I said pis.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Punisher with prep can easily take Wolverine to task.

Ya if he written like a moron who forgets he ahs superhman senses and walks around like an idiot.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Especially when a single bullet to the eye took him down in 'Messiah Complex'

……..ya and how punisher to get that shot off when Logan knows punisher waiting for him and is not fighting a bunch of super powered beings.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
and a groin shot slowed him down in New Avengers.

Not really. He was still able to fight and nothing suggests other wise.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Punisher 6/10.

And how he to do this verse the physically superior foe? The foe who also more experienced, can take pretty much anything he can throw. The foe who will know just were punisher is. The foe who more skilled and has more military training and experience.

But ya punisher wins

Originally posted by Master-Borg
why am I not surprised you pulled out the old PIS argument? 🙄

Funny you should say that because you used the same line of argument in the "Captain America vs Wolverine" thread.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
origins is not really a good source to use to compare characters

🙂

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yet it never been referenced and was completely ignored as being his and wolverines last fight.

But see it is. It went against the characters abilities, powers and intellectual level while playing up another.

He not that unpredictable and the rest of them acted like morons………..

Yes and by rock you mean get shoved out a window and getting his arm dislocated and punisher being quite fine as rock your sadly mistaken.

DD was the only one of the three who was not written like a complete idiot.

Not at all. I hate the way that ennis ignored the characters abilities, intellect and powers while playing up punisher.

Fanboyism? Please most of your comments are crap.

are you referring to there first encounter which was no were near as retarded as this issue.

In which he one due to plot device? I can live with that. At least in that issue his powers and intellect were not completely ignored and fluctuating through out the issue.

The explosives weren’t even damaging enough to blast a whole through him and he still went down……..

Even though the hulks take far worse and kept coming, like I said pis.

Ya if he written like a moron who forgets he ahs superhman senses and walks around like an idiot.

……..ya and how punisher to get that shot off when Logan knows punisher waiting for him and is not fighting a bunch of super powered beings.

Not really. He was still able to fight and nothing suggests other wise.

And how he to do this verse the physically superior foe? The foe who also more experienced, can take pretty much anything he can throw. The foe who will know just were punisher is. The foe who more skilled and has more military training and experience.

But ya punisher wins

What are you blabbing about? Are you seriously trying to convince us that Ennis' 'Confederacy Of Dunces' story arc isn't canon? Let me give you a piece of advice, stick to your other arguments, ok? You sound like a Darkseid fanboy who argues that Superman/Batman isn't canonical because Darkseid gets beaten up and it isn't really mentioned in other titles. Please.

How does one opponent beat another opponent who is physically their superior in every concievable way? It's called 1 hour prep time, you nincompoop. You ever read a single Batman comic? I mean, that's pretty much EVERY single fight he's ever been in. Can I ask a question?Would your head explode if you were to read a Batman vs. Superman fight? If I posted scans of their fights and show you how prep works, would you stab out your eyes with a fork?

The amount of tunnel vision you have when it comes to these vs fights is ridiculous. You must uncontrollably vomit whenever you see Wolverine get beat by ANYONE. You incessantly harp on about his physical superiority during some fights. Then when an opponent is physically superior, you harp on about his fighting prowess.

For crap's sake, Wolverine is not god. Do you involuntarily throw up when you read comics with Wolverine these days? Remember when Molly Hayes bitchslapped him in 'Runaways?' Or how he got punked by Spiderwoman the first time they met in 'New Avengers?' Or the second time he tried tussling with Spiderwoman? Or when Gorgon made him his b1tch, twice? Or how Namor schooled him? Or how Cap knocks the crap out of him in flashbacks? Or how a single gunshot through the eye put him down? Or how Deadpool is making an utter fool of him right now? Or-

*watches Battlehammer's head explode*

For the record... I wasn't trying to kill him. So no way can I be charged with first degree murder with intent. Someone get me Johnny Cochran! I plead the Fifth!

Punisher with 1hr prep 6/10, at least.

ROFL, good fing post onedumbgo!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What are you blabbing about? Are you seriously trying to convince us that Ennis' 'Confederacy Of Dunces' story arc isn't canon? Let me give you a piece of advice, stick to your other arguments, ok? You sound like a Darkseid fanboy who argues that Superman/Batman isn't canonical because Darkseid gets beaten up and it isn't really mentioned in other titles. Please.

Yes I am saying that there could be a good chance it is not cannon. There was an article about the issue a few weeks after it came out. I never read it, but from what I was told it pretty much said it was a dream sequence or some shit.

There also the fact that in Wolverine 186 it states there last fight ended with punisher rolling a steam roller on top of Wolverine. And the fight we are discussing happen after the encounter were Logan got run over with a steam roller……….so clearly marvel is ignoreing that shitty ass arc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
How does one opponent beat another opponent who is physically their superior in every concievable way? It's called 1 hour prep time, you nincompoop. You ever read a single Batman comic? I mean, that's pretty much EVERY single fight he's ever been in. Can I ask a question?Would your head explode if you were to read a Batman vs. Superman fight? If I posted scans of their fights and show you how prep works, would you stab out your eyes with a fork?

Oh I know what Prep is, but here the thing, Punisher is not Batman. Punisher is not nearly as skilled with prep as Batman. Punisher does not have close to the equipment or technology that Batman possesses. Punisher is not close to Batmans level of intellect.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The amount of tunnel vision you have when it comes to these vs fights is ridiculous. You must uncontrollably vomit whenever you see Wolverine get beat by ANYONE. You incessantly harp on about his physical superiority during some fights. Then when an opponent is physically superior, you harp on about his fighting prowess.

Really no need for that, nor do I care if Logan is defeated, but I do care when people try and uses PIS events as evidence.

No I tell it how it is. Logan physically Punishers superior and is beyond punisher in fighting skills. He also beyond punisher in experience and military training. Wolverines also beyond Punisher abilities to take out any majority even with an hour prep.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For crap's sake, Wolverine is not god.

Nor did I say he was.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Do you involuntarily throw up when you read comics with Wolverine these days?

No need for that

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Remember when Molly Hayes bitchslapped him in 'Runaways?'

Seeing as how the event took place of panel I am gunna say no to that. Logan was trying to calm her down and the next thing we see of him he lands in the snow. Not sure how that is suppose to be down grading to wolverine. I mean they weren’t fighting and it was clearly implied he was sucker punch. So were the bad thing about that? Molly super humanly strong and Logan was fine.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or how he got punked by Spiderwoman the first time they met in 'New Avengers?'

No sure how this helps your argument.

Also if you’re going to use an event please explain it accurately. Logan had been in a plane crash then fought an army of super power lizards, then was chased for 6 hours straight prior to the Spider Woman event. Also He even stated he could not recognize there smell and he was trying to figure out who she was. He got blasted in the face and stabbed in the neck. Logan then throws her off him and jumped on her and likely would have stabbed her if not for Luke cage. That’s far from punked since if it had gone on she likely would have died even in his weaken state.

Not to mention the writer only had that event happen to make Spider Woman look bad ass. As he stated in an interview.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or the second time he tried tussling with Spiderwoman?

You mean 3rd. He fought her in his own series during the early 90’s and defeated her even when she possessed a sword that amp her power and skill.

Also if you recall he had been in an awful plane crash that KO Luke cage……..he was far from 100 percent. He also simply tried to stop her from taking the skrull and did not even pull his claws. She then used her venom stinger full power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or when Gorgon made him his b1tch, twice?

You referring to the stab behind his back?

As for there fight, Logan held his own in there last encounter. Though gorgon did due superior. Gorgon was a beast and that far from a bad thing. Gorgon was dead and had a healing factor, super strength, moved at speed of thought,stone stare,TP,superhuman stamina, agility, reflex. Master ninja and MA. The guy was not push over.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or how Namor schooled him?

You mean when namor ran to the water. Logan hit the switch to the force field and namor went through the ground and slamed Logan to the ground? Logan was still able to talk and was calling Namor names?

Or were you referring to there 3 other fight in which Logan one 2 of them and tied the other.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or how Cap knocks the crap out of him in flashbacks?

Yes and? Logan shad no weapon. Capt was arm. Logan stated his heart was not in it. Capt was pissed and going full on. Logan was trying to save capt nor hurt him.

So another rather stupid example.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or how a single gunshot through the eye put him down?

That bounced around inside his skull……..by a high power sniper rifle while logan was fighting some one else……..

Logan has also been eaten, blown up twice and was still able to fight…….so.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Or how Deadpool is making an utter fool of him right now? Or-

……..Logan stomped him any time they fought one another. DP had to rely on items and even still he not winning.

Also what was the point of those examples? None of which have to do with punisher. Nor does punisher have the abilities people do or the scenario.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For the record... I wasn't trying to kill him. So no way can I be charged with first degree murder with intent. Someone get me Johnny Cochran! I plead the Fifth!

Punisher with 1hr prep 6/10, at least.


Again were do you come to this conclusion?

With punisher current inventory and time restraint he won’t be able to get the traps or fire power to win this…….

He also fighting a person who has more military knowledge then he and experience, as well as greater training……..

Not to mention the fact wolverine will know were he is.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
ROFL, good fing post onedumbgo!

it really wasent at all.

All he did was put down times Logan be hurt or beaten, but misrepresented the events.

Not to mention he never gave a single reason for the examples nor why punisher wins.