Punisher vs Wolverine

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Originally posted by Ha-Son
Funny you should say that because you used the same line of argument in the "Captain America vs Wolverine" thread.

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Ha-Son Restricted

Originally posted by Faceman
You should become a detective Jase... 😆 👆

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Sado22 Restricted

You do realize that was not only the most inconsistent arc, but also the most pis.

there was absolutely nothing inconsistent about it. wolverine has been sniped before, shot in the eyes, shot in the head, gutted, sliced and whatnot. in fact some of the above has happened to him even when he could see the person who was shooting at him.

ya The author of the arc for gott logan had senses...........he drank a bottle of acid.

logan senses? what was he supposed to do, smell Frank's after shave? get real man. and funny YOU seem to forget that Frank Castle is a vietnam vet, black orps AND has undergone as special training in sniping. and he shot him from a hidden spot.

Spiderman for some reason got tricked by fake bombs even though he has a spider senses.

your point. why would his senses go off if there WAS no danger. also spiderman's senses don't go off when he can SEE what's coming. the senses work only when he can't see the danger. read more of his encounters with Venom.

The author of the issue has stated he hates super hero's and has shown to be bias and write reiduclous thing time and again.

first of all, all the superheroes he fought, Frank openly admitted that he would lose in a straight up fight. which he did. THAT is why he outsmarted them.

Punisher caught the hulk in that arc

knock off the elipses man, its annoying and takes up too much space.
Punisher didn't PIS beat him. he fed Bruce C4 without bruce knowing it and simply detonated it. shows hwo much you read the pics i posted.

please don't use such a pis filled comic as evidence.

don't waste my time with your rampaging fanboyism. Frank has faced Wolverine on several occassions and always came out smarter. even back in Punisher volume 2 (the old school punisher comics) frank sniped him and wolverine went down. hsi HF has only weakened by now.

Oh the arc was also ignored in comics and has never been mention since. Hell I not even sure it cannon any more.

i don't care what you think. what IS obvious is that wolverine has a horrible showing so far against Frank. there was another issue, can't remember the name, where they were both chasing some terrorist in the jungle. Wolverine got caught, was ambushed, was caught in more booby traps and Frank had to come save him.

~Sado

Mindset Senior Member

Sado Spiderman's senses go off even if he can see the danger, his spidersense doesn't go off at all when Venom attacks him.

Sado22 Restricted

that's weird? i've never seen his senses go off when he can clearly see the thing coming at him. i understand he has natural agility and good reaction but why would he need spidersenses to see things he already sees? it makes no sense.

Mindset Senior Member

It just senses danger, think of it as an involuntary muscle movement.

It doesn't need to go off if he sees the danger, but it does.

Sado22 Restricted

no offense man, really, but could you provide proof. i'm just having a problem wrapping my head around it.

Mindset Senior Member

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7823/feat41ss1bl0.jpg

He sees the guns drawn and point at him, it still goes off.

Sado22 Restricted

thanks.
notice they go off when they start shooting him. not before.
by that logic it probably means that his senses would have gone off WHEN the claymore would explode....only they wouldn't cuz they werne't real.

makes sense now.

~Sado

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Sado22
there was absolutely nothing inconsistent about it. wolverine has been sniped before, shot in the eyes, shot in the head, gutted, sliced and whatnot. in fact some of the above has happened to him even when he could see the person who was shooting at him.

Lol you completely missed what I ment. I said the arc was inconsistent and pis. And what you responded with has nothing to do with what I said.

I was not referring to him being shot at all. I was talking about there powers and how they range through out the arc.

As for Logan being hit by individuals he can see is due to the fact he not trying to dodge them

Originally posted by Sado22
logan senses? what was he supposed to do, smell Frank's after shave?

Again your response has nothing to do with that I am saying. I was reffering to the fact that during that arc Logan drank acid………even though he has superhuman senses and would smell it a mile away……..

As for him smell frank after shave he very well could. You really don’t understand how could his senses are do you. There really is no way that punisher should be able to shot at Logan like he had with out Logan knowing he was there. This is the same guy who could tell the real multi man from his clones. The same man the found mistyc in 8 and haft hours with out know what country in the entire world she was on due to senses alone. The same guy who has senses air currents to tell that Cyclopes blast was headed at him. The same guy who track nitro by simply visiting the ruins of Hartford Connecticut three months after the explosion he made and trailing his scent 100’s of miles.
The same guy who trained hand ninjas can’t sneak up on.

Those are but a few. So yes Logan would smell him and hear him.

Originally posted by Sado22
get real man. and funny YOU seem to forget that Frank Castle is a vietnam vet, black orps AND has undergone as special training in sniping. and he shot him from a hidden spot.

No I know he is. When was it stated he had special sniper training?
You do realize that Wolverine has far more training and far better training military wise and MA wise right?

Logan has been trained in black opts by a number of countries. He also been trained as a spy by the best there was, trained as cis agent, trained and serve in army special forces for America and Canada. He also served in simply the army. He also been trained by weapon x and it’s branch organizations. He also been to Vietnam, World War I and II, Korea, Golf war, Cold War and countless other missions as a member of a number of organizations including shield and team x. He also served on alpha flight, avenegers, every x-men team.

That’s not even all of it.

So please don’t state such things about frank being this and that as if it matters, when Logan’s done more then 4 times what Frank has and more.

Originally posted by Sado22
your point. why would his senses go off if there WAS no danger.

Ya and yet he stayed there like an idiot………even though he should have known there was no danger…….

Originally posted by Sado22
also spiderman's senses don't go off when he can SEE what's coming. the senses work only when he can't see the danger.

Actually your wrong. They senses danger period no matter if he can see it or not.

Originally posted by Sado22
read more of his encounters with Venom.

Hahaha maybe you should read more Spiderman period lol. His spider sense does not work with symbiots which is one of the reasons venom can ambush him and is such a major threat.

Originally posted by Sado22
first of all, all the superheroes he fought, Frank openly admitted that he would lose in a straight up fight. which he did.

Actaully he defeated DD when they fought……

Originally posted by Sado22
THAT is why he outsmarted them.

By out smart you mean for get they had powers or intelligences beyond a 5 year old………

Originally posted by Sado22
knock off the elipses man, its annoying and takes up too much space.
Punisher didn't PIS beat him. he fed Bruce C4 without bruce knowing it and simply detonated it. shows hwo much you read the pics i posted.

Again responding irrelevant to what I had said. I was referring to when punisher caught Hulk……….

Show how much reading comprehension you have this is what the 3rd time in a single post were your responses was irrelevant to what I had said.

Originally posted by Sado22
even back in Punisher volume 2 (the old school punisher comics) frank sniped him and wolverine went down. hsi HF has only weakened by now.

That never happen I own volume one and two please I love to see the title and issue number.

Originally posted by Sado22
i don't care what you think. what IS obvious is that wolverine has a horrible showing so far against Frank.

Not really. There this pis issue you post in which Logan completely act out of character and for gott he had super human senses or training………..and Spiderman forgot he had spider senses………and both were written to be the intelligence of a 5 year old.

Then there war journals in which Logan Ko’s frank with a glancing blow……….and wolverine 186 in which Logan with out trying beats frank badly…….even though frank had prep and sought wolverine out.

Originally posted by Sado22
there was another issue, can't remember the name, where they were both chasing some terrorist in the jungle. Wolverine got caught, was ambushed, was caught in more booby traps and Frank had to come save him.

~Sado


Actaully that never happen. I own the issue both were caught……..it was marvel knights punisher wolverine. It was a shitty arc. They were both written stupidly and is best ignored. It was retarded frank had trouble with a few crooks and some trackers gave logan trouble………it was awful potrail of both characters.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Sado22
thanks.
notice they go off [b]when they start shooting him. not before.
by that logic it probably means that his senses would have gone off WHEN the claymore would explode....only they wouldn't cuz they werne't real.

makes sense now.

~Sado [/B]


Not at all. Spiderman would know the explosions were fake by the fact it dident go off.

also spiderman is extremely smart he should have known period.

also spiderman spidersense can tell with something is fake and could even back during the time that issue came out.

that issue simply was pis and protray both Wolverine and Spiderman incorrectly. It also displayed there powers incorrectly and even completely ignored them at times. They also showed there abilities to be vastly inconsistant.

iceman24567 Senior Member

The Punisher wins this 8/10.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
The Punisher wins this 8/10.

lol says the man who thinks cyclopes can take jason tod......in h2h combat lol.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol says the man who thinks cyclopes can take jason tod......in h2h combat lol.
lol says the Wolverine wanker....he did it once he could do it again don't cry about it.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
lol says the Wolverine wanker....he did it once he could do it again don't cry about it.

wanker? because I know what im talking about?

He did it once in pis filled comic were both wolverine and spiderman would some how forgett they had certain powers.........and would some how only have the intellect of a 5 year old.........

And thats not even the worse of it. Also Logan was never actaully beaten by punisher in that arc, but he did do extremely dumb things like drink acid........even though he had super senses.

Not crying at all just stating the facts.

Oh and wolverine has wtf stomp punisher and then called him gay.....before

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
wanker? because I know what im talking about?

He did it once in pis filled comic were both wolverine and spiderman would some how forgett they had certain powers.........and would some how only have the intellect of a 5 year old.........

And thats not even the worse of it. Also Logan was never actaully beaten by punisher in that arc, but he did do extremely dumb things like drink acid........even though he had super senses.

Not crying at all just stating the facts.

Oh and wolverine has wtf stomp punisher and then called him gay.....before

In this fight he has prep and he will win a majority at the least 8/10. It's only pis when Wolverine loses huh.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
In this fight he has prep and he will win a majority at the least 8/10. It's only pis when Wolverine loses huh.

And you come to this conculsion due to? He has an hour prep his current weapons area was blown up a few issues back. He not going to be able to produce any serous weapondry in an hour. Also he need to set the traps.

Then theres the fact Logan can take pritty much any thing he can dish out. Logan can tell were he is and there not chance of ambush due to super senses. Logan had more experience and trained in the tactics punisher will attempt to use.........so im still wondering how punisher wins let a lone 8 out of 10 times.

Oh it has nothing to do with Logan losing. Actaully Logan never was KO during there fight so he was actually never beaten. All he did was get hit with the rocket.

any ways what pis is the fact spidermans spider senses never went off, Logan some how forgott he had senses and DD also some how forgott he had senses.....

Then thers the fact Logan drank acid again forgetting he had super senses.

Spiderman who extremely smart and has spider senses got trick by fake bombs

Punisher caught and took out Hulk........

That does not scream pis to you?

iceman24567 Senior Member

I see Frank shotting him in the head if all else fails but I'm tired continue to argue if it pleases you 8/10 to Frank and no it's not because I'm wearing a punisher shirt to bed 😐.

Battlehammer Senior Member
Originally posted by iceman24567
I see Frank shotting him in the head if all else fails

ecpt for the fact his skull is adamtium lol

Originally posted by iceman24567
but I'm tired continue to argue if it pleases you 8/10

so you have no reason other then bias?

Originally posted by iceman24567
to Frank and no it's not because I'm wearing a punisher shirt to bed 😐.

lol good night .

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Wow theres nothing for me to say here. Almost everybodys in agreement. 🙄