Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

Started by ragesRemorse6 pages

Oh, i'm sorry, i must have walked in the wrong forum. I thought this was general discussion 😛

Chit. It's factual so no worries. The videos are real, I do my best to post the best. Seriously.

The 9 part series is full of news clippings and articles, statements, ect. It's actually pretty good. I was surprised for it being fueled by religion. But I was forced to bow my head by the end of it.

The Oliver North Video is real. Look at the look on the guys face man. He looks as though he saw a ghost when he is asked the question. And he doesn't answer it. The guy to his left does. lol. What a joke.

The statement from Congressman Henry Gonzales is real too. It's all real.

Re: Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
My question is simple. Does anyone have a logical explanation for what the places in the video are, why they exist, what they are being built for, who runs them, and why there are new things being added to them, ect. ect?

Does anybody have a logical explanation for why we're here talking about videos that don't have a logical explanation?

Did I say "Death Camps?" I meant "Happy Camps."

Well, here's one citizen who is up to speed on whats going on in this country:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s

Here is the actual United States Homeland Security document that outlines the plan to build "Detention Camps" all around the United States:

http://cryptogon.com/docs/endgame.pdf

It doesn't get any better than the actual document folks.

Re: Re: Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

People actually like to be shepherded

Here is a video of soldiers in the military preparing/training to take over American cities in the case of Martial Law. Obviously use of force would be authorized in this situation, and American Citizens would be fair game and could be shot or killed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&eurl=http://www.fight4truth.com/concentrationcamps.htm

Re: Re: Re: Can Anyone Explain The Purpose For These "Camps"?

Originally posted by GCG
People actually like to be shepherded

Speak for yourself. I'm a Human Being. Not a Sheep.

The only Being that ever had the right to call Himself a "Shepard" was Christ Himself. And He didn't look at us as animals, He looked at us as His Brothers and Sisters.

dude, more Le Pen, less Stalin

you have confused the real abuse of power for something that completely discredits your argument as soon as you say it.

People actually rue to be shepherded

Iraq vet exposes how he was trained to round up Americans in martial law exercise, asked if he would kill his own friends and family.....

February 4th, 2008
Paul Watson

U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.

We received an email from "Scott," a member of a pipefitters union that runs an apprenticeship program called "Helmets to Hard Hats," which, according to its website, "is a national program that connects National Guard, Reserve and transitioning active-duty military members with quality career training and employment opportunities within the construction industry."

Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned from Iraq, who told him that U.S. troops were being quizzed on whether or not they would be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members during a national state of emergency in America. "I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect and trust," writes Scott.

"I want you to know that he informed me about one particular training exercise his superiors made them perform. It was concerning the rounding up of American citizens that disobey any type of martial law or in other words any type of infringement on our freedoms."

"He was asked if he could shoot his friends or family members if ordered to do so. At the time he said he could," writes Scott.

Scott says that the soldier later "had time to clear his head" and realize the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen if ordered to do so.

The issue of whether U.S. troops would be prepared to round up, disarm and if necessary shoot Americans who disobeyed orders during a state of martial law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for at least 15 years.

http://www.sfbayview.com/News/Main/U.S._troops_asked_if_they_would_shoot_American_citizens.html

Documentary filmmaker Alex Jones brought to light similar training programs that were taking place across the country in the late ‘90s which revolved around U.S. Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take them to internment camps.

During one such program in Oakland, Calif., dubbed "Operation Urban Warrior," Marines refused to answer whether they would target American citizens for gun confiscation if ordered to do so.

Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss - News Coverage Of The Training of Pastors to be enforcers

The experiences of U.S. troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers are ordered to go door to door and arrest all men of military age as well as confiscate their weapons, is a mere portend of what is being planned for America if these training programs ever come to fruition.

Daniel Hamburg is a former Democratic Congressman who was elected to the 1st Congressional District of California in 1992 and also subsequently ran for Governor of California, finishing in 3rd place.

Hamburg co-wrote a well-received recent article carried by the San Francisco Chronicle in which he outlined the program to incarcerate American citizens in internment camps, which have already been publicly built, during a time of declared national emergency.

Here is the article that former Congressman Daniel Hamburg wrote about these "prison" camps for American citizens.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

In the article, the Congressman states that:

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

But I have already stated before that I think what the government claims these camps are for and what they are really for is two different things. They aren't permanently for illegal aliens because our government is currently pushing for the SPPA. A "north-american partnership" AKA North American Union AKA Open borders policy.

And again, they are not just being built in the USA, they are being built all over the World.

Congressman Jim McDermot made a speech about the "internment camps" and the rounding up of American citizens during Martial Law in the United States:

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml

In the speech, Congressman Jim McDermot said:

"From 1982 to 1984, Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defense preparations. Details of those plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal. They included executive orders providing for suspension of the Constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the President and FEMA."

Ritt Goldstein, an investigative reporter for the Herald, writes that recent pronouncements from the Bush administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States:

http://www.arizona.indymedia.org/news/2002/08/3646

In the article, Ritt Goldstein writes:

America as you know it is changing dramatically. The democratic freedoms which long defined American life are under siege. Today's Bush administration is moving towards America's military pursuing law enforcement, internment camps are on the horizon, and a member of the US Civil Rights Commission previously broached Arab-American internment.

Hidden behind FEMA’s benevolent face as the body whose chief responsibility is disaster relief, another FEMA exists. It is a FEMA that few know has been “charged by the Bush Administration with leading the nation’s anti-terrorism effort”, and a FEMA whose history includes nightmarish episodes in this vein.

Here is another article by Mr. Goldstein that details plans for Martial Law in the United States which was published in the Sydney, Australia, Morning Herald:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html

Here is an article from the Website of Political Research Associates which goes into detail about how FEMA and the Department of Defense issued a joint paper entitled, "The Civil/Military Alliance in Emergency Management" which specified many of the provisions of Reagan's policy on emergency mobilization preparedness:

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_3.html

The document indicates that FEMA had been given emergency powers to acquire resources from federal and state agencies (including National Guard personnel) and the private sector (banking, communications, transportation, etc.) "for use in civil disturbance operations."

The article states:

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

Here is a copy of an article written by Jonathan Turley of the Los Angeles Times, On August 14th, 2002 entitled Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft’s Hellish Vision:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/CfCAHV.pdf

In the article, Jonathan Turley writes:

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft’s announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.

Ashcroft’s plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants.

The proposed camp plan should trigger immediate congressional hearings and
reconsideration of Ashcroft’s fitness for this important office. Whereas Al Qaeda is a threat to the lives of our citizens, Ashcroft has become a clear and present threat to our liberties.

The camp plan was forged at an optimistic time for Ashcroft’s small inner circle, which has been carefully watching to test cases to see whether this vision could become a reality.

Thecases of Jose Padilla and Yaser Esam Hamdi will determine whether U.S. citizens can be held without charges and subject to the arbitrary and unchecked authority of the government.

Jonathan Turley's Blog:

http://jonathanturley.org/

SPAM!!!!!!

Spam? How? It relates to my thread.....

Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies. So all of the rest of the money must be going somewhere.....

Here is a look at the executive order from the United States Executive Order Archive:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=32625