Mr. Sinister vs. Juggernaut

Another scan where he's in a lab using tech to replicate effects, awesome.

Cain 10/10

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Another scan where he's in a lab using tech to replicate effects, awesome.

😐 Yeahbutwhat?

You're telling me Sinister's Lab is in Xavier's Office?

Mister Sinister's Location = Xavier's Office

X-Men's Location = On top of the Empire State Building.

The fight takes place on the Astral Plane...(See previous page for scans)

And just incase you were referring to the TK scan then please point me in the direction of this High Level Tech you seem to be so fond of?

Cain has fought through tp before.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp328ck.jpg

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Cain has fought through tp before.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp328ck.jpg

Also, you just showed a scan of him getting affected through his helmet...

I ignored the TK one because I never said he didn't have Teke oh and what does him in X's office or on the Emp building have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
I ignored the TK one because I never said he didn't have Teke oh and what does him in X's office or on the Emp building have to do with anything?

what feats? him having complete control over Pryor which was stated as tech?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
what feats? him having complete control over Pryor which was stated as tech?

From Xavier's office...

Seemed like some TP to me...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Cain has fought through tp before.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp328ck.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9318/jug8thdayp318bm.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7954/jug8thdayp328ck.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/72/jug8thdayp332kl.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/7686/jug8thdayp363ld.jpg

That is one type of Telepathic Attack i.e. Mind Control. Not to mention it was 8th day Juggernaut. In all of the previous scans it's a mind bolt, psi-fry or Psylockes infamous psychoblaster. In the scans above Bedlam fries Cain and Carnivores' mind managing to knock Carnivores out. Then the caption says she tries to increase her "Mental Hold" on her fellow exemplars. The way I interpret that is Mind Control which is a battle of wills. Another reason why I believe it's mind control is because of Stonecutters response on the next page. "Wha...Bedlam...have you...?" In the next scan we Juggernaut break free from Bedlams Mind Control and attack Stonecutter. Had she just blasted Juggs with a mental blast like Psylocke, Jean and Xavier she would have actually harmed him. Then the battle continues...as far as the captions say. Bedlams mental attacks didn't work because their wills were too strong. But as far as I know blasting someone with mental energy was never a battle wills. So whatever type of telepathy Bedlam was using it was something involving the battle of wills.

Telepathy isn't as one dimensional as people make it out to be. Mind Control is the battle of wills. Frying someones mind with mental energy is not. It's just a blast of mental energy. And Cain has been shown to be susceptible to this type of telepathy.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
I ignored the TK one because I never said he didn't have Teke oh and what does him in X's office or on the Emp building have to do with anything?

😐 Sinister is in Xaviers office when the Astral Fight takes place. Not in his lab. The X-Men aren't in his lab either they're on the top of the Empire state building.

This fight occurs on the Psychic Plane:

Which he had implanted and controlled earlier through tech. Notice how nobody ever referneces him as a telepath or calls his means of control telepathy.

And Magneto was able project an astral form and I'd hardly call him a telepath.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Which he had implanted and controlled earlier through tech. Notice how nobody ever referneces him as a telepath or calls his means of control telepathy.

And Magneto was able project an astral form and I'd hardly call him a telepath.

Also, earlier, he was erasing memories...

With tech oh and btw Psylocke stated all their (telepathic) attacks on him were useless and the only reason why he eventually lost is because Cyke stopped pussyfooting around and hit him with a optic blast which at the time was the only way you could beat him.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Which he had implanted and controlled earlier through tech. Notice how nobody ever referneces him as a telepath or calls his means of control telepathy.

And Magneto was able project an astral form and I'd hardly call him a telepath.

Magneto has numerous feats of Telepathy Probing inclusive. And Xavier has said Magneto has latent telepathy. Mags has also pwned Jean Grey. I suggest you take a look at his respect thread. The Handbook refers to Sinister as a telepath.
Mr Sinister was in Xaviers office, he had no tech with him. He pwned Psylocke a Telepath on the Astral Plane.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
With tech oh and btw Psylocke stated all their (telepathic) attacks on him were useless and the only reason why he lost is because Cyke stopped pussyfooting around and hit him with a optic blast which at the time was the only way you could beat him.

Also, the way he got beat in mind aspect, was when Jeanix got mad, and overan him from her mind...

Also, he was erasing her memories if I haven't already said it a couple of times...

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Notice how nobody ever references him as a telepath or calls his means of control telepathy.

Notices how nobody references Sinister of having superhuman strength, despite the fact that he slapped Strong Guy like nothing?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
And Magneto was able project an astral form and I'd hardly call him a telepath.

But that's what you can do when you're the master of magnetism. ermm

Handbooks are often erronuous as in this case where you can't provide a scan showing Sinister using or being referenced as a telepath.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Handbooks are often erronuous as in this case where you can't provide a scan showing Sinister using or being referenced as a telepath.

😐 I just did.

Sinister pwned Psylocke on the Astral Plane while he was all the way in Xaviers Office. Not to mention his remark to Storm.

I suggest you read the scans again.

Your opinion and vast speculation with absolutely no comic proof is full of errors.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Handbooks are often erronuous as in this case where you can't provide a scan showing Sinister using or being referenced as a telepath.

You showed him projecting an astral form and being immune to TP. Good job. And the only person is speculating is the one who can't show Sinister being referenced or called a telepath.