Mr. Sinister vs. Juggernaut

Started by ExodusCloak5 pages
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You showed him projecting an astral form and being immune to TP. Good job. And the only person is speculating is the one who can't show Sinister being referenced or called a telepath.

I showed him psychically overpowering Psylocke on the Astral Plane.
The Handbook is my reference. His remark to Storm could possibly count as a comic reference.

His remark that no where says he has telepathy or is a telepath that is and you showed that he does his homework and is immune to the mutant powers of the X-Men, great job.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
His remark that no where says he has telepathy or is a telepath that is and you showed

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8236/uxm243pg08zc2.jpg

"This is the psychic plane you silly women...where your purely physical powers are less then useless". "Reshaping you in my Psychic image...etc".

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Pwning Psylocke on the Astral Plane. From Xaviers office.

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"Using genetic material from other mutants he, has granted himself many additional powers such as telepathy."

So in your mind all that means he doesn't have telepathy. Okay...got it 😉 . There's absolutely no need to continue this conversation.

Chocolate Fudge.

BTW You might want to take a look at this thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/443814_1-differentiating-between-pis-and-idli-itdh

Now that I remember it that fight took place in Jean's subconscious and that astral Sinister was a defense mechanism to keep the X-Men from overriding the program. Thanks for having me re-read the storyline

jerk.

PS

I wonder why Sinister had to blow away the fortress rather then telepathically blocking or hiding the info from Polaris's head? Could it be he's not the telepath that everyone in the Marvel Universe knows he isn't? Nah, I'll just go with his never referenced and only one story arc "use" for the thousand Alex.

And Polaris is mighty disrespectful for someone under his "telepathic" control

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Now that I remember it that fight took place in Jean's subconscious and that astral Sinister was a defense mechanism to keep the X-Men from overriding the program. Thanks for having me re-read the storyline

jerk.

PS

I wonder why Sinister had to blow away the fortress rather then telepathically blocking or hiding the info from Polaris's head? Could it be he's not the telepath that everyone in the Marvel Universe knows he isn't? Nah, I'll just go with his never referenced and only one story arc "use" for the thousand Alex.

And Polaris is mighty disrespectful for someone under his "telepathic" control

Yes because in the very same issue he accesses the Astral Plane, Erases memories and prevent Psylocke from leaving the Astral Plane.
He didn't because he didn't want to take the risk Psylocke finding even the slightest bit of information about him. He'd have to face Psylocke if he did it telepathically.
Also notice how she said "You could have warned me". How do you think he was going to warn her when he wasn't even in the room.

Sinister Astral Projected into Jeans mind all the way from Xaviers office. There is no tech mentioned in the issue. And the Handbook clarifies this use of telepathy.

He obliterates Jeans memories. And prevents Psylocke from leaving the Astral Plane. Also notice how all the telepaths are coloured in while all the non-telepaths are not.

Sinisters thoughts are hidden from Psylockes:

If you read the arc you'll know that Polaris is not under Sinisters control. She's under Malices control. That's Malice being disrespectful to Sinister.

Marvel seem to think he's a telepath since he has his own bio dedicated to it.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Another scan where he's in a lab using tech to replicate effects, awesome.

Oh, for gods sake.

YES, Sinister GRANTED himself TELEPATHY AND TELEKINISIS via TECH.

Does he need tech TO USE IT?

NO.

Numerous scans have been provided showing Sinister as both a telepath and a telekinetic.

It never says that he NEEDS the tech to be able to use it.

He granted himself the power. Using tech, he permanently changed the structure of his DNA. He gave himself powers. Now he can use them wherever he likes.

Also, with flight, teleportation, and complete molecular control, I doubt Juggs is touching Sinister, much less BFRing him.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Oh, for gods sake.
My sentiments exactly. Someone needs to stfu, and it isn't you, ExodusCloak, bigbran, Evil_Ash nor I.

Another one just for fun.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My sentiments exactly. Someone needs to stfu, and it isn't you, ExodusCloak, bigbran, Evil_Ash nor I.

Another one just for fun.

By the way X that is in the onslaught saga isn't it and she even mentions he is weak and even then she needs to huury
😖hifty:
😛

Just to add some closure to this mind wrecking discussion.

More On Panel proof that Mr. Sinister is in fact a telepath:
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http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen205003lk3.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen205015th0.jpg

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http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmanxforce0003jv5.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmansinister0004qy4.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmansinister0005kz3.jpg

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Just to add some closure to this mind wrecking discussion.

More On Panel proof that Mr. Sinister is in fact a telepath:
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen2020022yu2.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen205003lk3.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen205015th0.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen204dcp0009qe0.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen204dcp0010wu8.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmanxforce0003jv5.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmansinister0004qy4.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmansinister0005kz3.jpg

Doesn't really matter Cain wins.

Why because in reality him at his best is far better than Sinister at his best. Including TK, and TP.

Mostly because of his shield, and the fact he can toss Sinister into space. Even Sinister, despite his genetic advancements, can not fly. 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Doesn't really matter Cain wins.

Why because in reality him at his best is far better than Sinister at his best. Including TK, and TP.

Mostly because of his shield, and the fact he can toss Sinister into space. Even Sinister, despite his genetic advancements, can not fly. 😛

Didn't bump this thread to comment on the fight. Just on Sinisters abilities. Looking back at the discussion on whether Sinister does or does not possess telepathy seems pretty retarded. 😛 I wonder I why any of us(X, Smurph, BAsh) wasted our time.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Didn't bump this thread to comment on the fight. Just on Sinisters abilities. Looking back at the discussion on whether Sinister does or does not possess telepathy seems pretty retarded. 😛 I wonder I why any of us(X, Smurph, BAsh) wasted our time.
Because you are fools 😛

Regarding Bedlam. My best guess is that she was empowered with the ability to psy Juggs through his helmet. The point of these exemplars is that they duke it out until there is one clear winner. The winner is suppose to prove which of the deities that empowered them is the most powerful. Her deity would no doubt know of Juggs helmet and have a way to counter it.

Regarding Sinister. I will agree that he is indeed a psychic. But, I very much doubt his psy-power is strong enough to go through Juggs' helmet. Anyone who chooses to fight the Juggernaut can only really survive the encounter. Outside BFR, Sinister loses.

I'm almost certain Apoc said on-panel that he gave Sinister TP and other powers.

He gave Sinister his freaking powers, he would know. ✅

Classic Stacks douchebaggery in this thread.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Handbooks are often erronuous.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Comics and handbook generally go hand in hand
Lulz.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Lulz.
Why if it isn't my Nemesis X uhuh

X, you should compete in Red's tourney.

Papa Smurf, you too. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Newjak
Why if it isn't my Nemesis X uhuh
You fear me because you know it's my destiny to defeat you and take your throne. peaches

And club you and eat your bones.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You fear me because you know it's my destiny to defeat you and take your throne. peaches

And club you and eat your bones.

I wouldn't call it fear so much as excitement vin

Besides no reps the Juggernaut like me jugdurnaut