And I realize Mr. I is a loser otherwise, but pair that ability correctly and you have someone who is literally un-killable. So basically I'm saying that if you have "True Immortality" as a power, the person should cost more than Spider-Man....I'm not opposed to the pick, just the cost.
Others can speak for Sorrow better than I. But clearly there's something amiss there too.
Originally posted by id369
Look at Johnny Sorrow. With out the instant kill option, he cant use his face. But energy manipulation, and a slew of other abilities places him well above 2 points.
Didn't know that.
OK I'll object to Johnny then.
There's nothing wrong with choosing MrImmortal though. A sustained KO counts as the character being taken out right? He's so useless otherwise that 2 points doesn't seem terribly unreasonable.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
He isn't. He's just a regular guy offense-wise.But he can't be killed. And no, it's not just healing. It's irrevocable immortality.
I don't really have a problem with Mr. Immortal at 2 points if a street bank robber with a gun can put him down, and have enough to time to drive and get away, especially with the ridiculously humorous healing powers of Wolverine and Deadpool at two points. It would be different, if his 'immortality' granted him near invincibility or durability to match.
The link doesn't really say how much time it took for him to get back up. He could have been lying down there for 5 to 10 minutes before his 'immorality' resurrected him.
Just have someone toss a huge rock onto Mr. Immortal and immobilize him, or toss him into a river with a weight tied to his legs. Heck, even get a strong guy to throw a mountain on top of him, or bury him under some rubble for 10 minutes and it is a done deal
-Evangel94
Fair enough. I'll concede on Mr. I. I don't know enough about the others to say for sure, but Sorrow seems to have come up.
And seriously, how did SoK kill God? And thus, why is he at 2 points? Maybe thre's a good explanation for it, but I don't just want to assume there's one and have Smurph sneak in a God-slayer for 2 points.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. I'll concede on Mr. I. I don't know enough about the others to say for sure, but Sorrow seems to have come up.
Looking on wiki: intangible, teleportation, energy manipulation, psionics
Real two pointer 😐
Originally posted by DigiMark007
And seriously, how did SoK kill God? And thus, why is he at 2 points? Maybe thre's a good explanation for it, but I don't just want to assume there's one and have Smurph sneak in a God-slayer for 2 points.
The same way he killed Satan. Magical unerringly accurate bullets.
SoK is supposed to be unkillable too.
Looking in his respect thread:
cause people to see everyone he's killed
bullet proof
walks through explosion
unphased when hit by a car
takes a nuke point blank . . .
OK I revise me opinion on Smurph's list. I didn't object at a quick glance but shit man.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Looking on wiki: intangible, teleportation, energy manipulation, psionicsReal two pointer 😐
While I don't object to people using wikipedia, I would prefer at least, Marvel's official wiki.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mister_Immortal
Powers
Mr. Immortal cannot permanently die - each time he is killed, he swiftly revives fully healed.Abilities
Mr. Immortal is skilled hand-to-hand combatant and acrobat
It says no mention of any of the other powers listed in the general wiki. So I am allowing Mr. Immortal.
-Evangel94
Originally posted by Evangel94
While I don't object to people using wikipedia, I would prefer at least, Marvel's official wiki.http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mister_Immortal
It says no mention of any of the other powers listed in the general wiki. So I am allowing Mr. Immortal.
-Evangel94
He was talking about Sorrow
Originally posted by Evangel94
While I don't object to people using wikipedia, I would prefer at least, Marvel's official wiki.http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mister_Immortal
It says no mention of any of the other powers listed in the general wiki. So I am allowing Mr. Immortal.
-Evangel94
MrImmortal is fine. The powers I listed in the first part were for Sorrow who would seem to be far above 2 points because of them.
SoK is also far far to durable for 2 points.
SmurphSmash!, please make your final choices by the end of today (Feb 26). I know you have chosen your characters already, but some did not pass peer review. If acceptable changes are not made by today, I will choose your final characters for you to replace the questionable ones.
I don't wish to be mean, but I want to post the schedules ahead of time and give everyone a few days to prepare for their match, but this cannot happen if the draft doesn't finish, and all objections are settled. So, like I said, I will choose your characters for you if your questionable choices are not settled or changed.
Currently, Johnny Sorrow and Saint of Killers are in dispute, and are being objected against for their current price.
-Evangel94
Meh. I really haven't seen much about Sorrow's energy manip, but I can redraft him. Whatever.
As for SoK... the only reason he was able to kill God was because he had his guns that could kill anything... and never miss. Which he doesn't have here.
But, all right, I'll redraft... again. I'll be quicker this time.
Yeesh, people are freaking out unnecessarily.
Mystique - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystique_(comics)
Loa - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa_(comics)
The following is the most up to date list I have. Please check to make sure it is correct. Changes to any tournament characters are now closed. Points are now locked into place.
1. TONY STARK
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Dr. Doom (616) (4) Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Doom
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Doctor_Doom_(Victor_von_Doom)
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Victor_von_Doom_%28Earth-616%29Gladiator "Kallark" (616) (6) Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_%28Kallark%29
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gladiator_%28Kallark%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mn3AQWxAig&feature=relatedAmalgam lvl. 1 (4) points
(Dr. Doom)
Mind/Armor/Prep/Tech/Sorcery/Intelligence/Planning/Ruthlessness/Confidence...etc).(Gladiator)
Body/Strength/Speed/Durability/Fighting skills/Psionic abilities
Super breath/Heat-vision/Warrior born...etc).Prep time lvl. 1 (1) point
(15 Minute Battlefeild)Prep time lvl. 3 (5) points
(36 Hrs mystical sanctum/Scientific lab)Knowledge of opposition lvl. 3 (5) points
(Extensive knowledge of all opponents including strengths and weaknesses)4+6+4+1+5+5= 25 points
2. Creshosk
Originally posted by Creshosk
Bethany Cabe [x], Betty Banner [x], Catwoman [x], Black Widow [x], Elektra [x], Gwen Stacy [x], Gwenny Lou Sabuki [x], Harley Quinn [x], Jubilee [x], Lady Shiva [x], Lana Lang [x], Lois Lane [x], Mary Jane Watson [x], Talia al Ghul [x], Tana Moon [x], Sara Grey [x], Valerie Cooper [x] -17Empath [x] -2
Mind Control -5
Prep- 1Each [x] is a link to a biography for the character that precedes it.
Total: 25 points
3. id369
Originally posted by id369
[B]I am purchasing the followings.
2 – Prep Time, Lv. 2: One(1) hour spent in either a mystic sanctum or scientific lab
4 – Power Boosting: 4 points for each character boosted and if this is done in prep, it is added on to prep points
5 – Knowledge of the Opposition, Lv. 3: Extensive knowledge of all opponents on opposing team including strengths and weaknesses
What I have bought.
Amlagam Name: The Rapture
6 - Shaman X-Man (Mind)
4- Jan Grey (Body)
4 – Amalgam, Lv. 1: A combination of two characters2007 X-Men - Messiah Complex (Mutant Files)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Grey
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_(Jean_Grey)Official Hand Book of the Marvel Universe (2004)
Book of the Dead.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8991/46lx9.jpghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Man
http://www.marvel.com/universe/X-Man [/B]
4. Papa Smurph
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Sonia Sato - 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JudomasterHector Hall - 6 (Body) (Mind)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_FateWorld War Hulk - 6 (Body)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_HulkAmalgam v2 - 6
Prep time v3 - 5Name:The Amalgam that just kicked your ass and raped your mother x2.
Total: 25 points
5. darthgoober
Originally posted by darthgoober
The Silver Adaptoid(Amalgam Lv. 1= 4 pts)Silver Surfer(Body)= 6 pts
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer
Super Adaptoid(Mind)= 6 pts
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Super-AdaptoidPower Copying= 8 pts
Prep Time Lv. 1(15 minutes on the battlefield)= 1 pt.4+6+6+8+1= 25 pts.
6. Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Karnak - 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnak_%28comics%29
Flash - 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_West
Superman - 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman
Amaglam v2 - 6
Batman - 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman
Prep Time v2 - 2
(1 hour in a scientific laborotory or mystic sanctum)
Knowledge of the Opposition v2 - 2
(list of opponent's abilities but not the level)Karnak (Mind)
(MA, Skills, Find Flaws etc)
Superman (Body)
(Strength, HV, arctic breath, durability, flight, T-Vo, dashing good looks, etc)
Flash
(Superspeed, Speedforce abilities . . . dun dun dun dun!)Amalgam Name: Pete
2 + 6 + 6 + 6 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 25
7. Devil Lance
Originally posted by Devil Lance
My team
Firestorm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_%28comics%29
(Raymond/ Stein Combo) - 6 pointsLevel 1 Amalgam - 4 points
King Hawk
composed of
Hawkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkman
(Carter Hall with claw of Horus) 4 points Mind - Carter's fighting skills, nth metal, claw of horrus, hawk man suit , other standard equipment, memories of his other livesAquaman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman
(Orin with water hand) 4 points Body- strength, durabilty, senses, speed, reflexes, water hand, telepathy, etc etcprep level 1 - 1 point + power boosting during prep 4 points + level 2 knowledge of opponents 2 points
6+4+4++4+4+2+1=25
8. TricksterPriest
"Wavetron"Combination of
Metron - (No Chair) (Mind) 6 Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metron_%28comics%29
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/tommorrow/M/Metron.htm
and
Waverider - (Body) 6 Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waverider_(comics)Amalgam, Lv. 1: A combination of two characters - 4 points
Rip Hunter. - 1 Point
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_HunterPrep Time, Lv. 3: Thirty-six(36) hours spent in either a mystic sanctum or scientific lab - 5 points
Power Boosting: 4 points for each character boosted and if this is done in prep, it is added on to prep points - 4 points
2 – Knowledge of the Opposition, Lv. 2: Names and powers provided, but not level of powerTotal: 23 Points [/B]
9. psycho gundam
Regular Juggernaut- 5 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(comics)Space Gem – 10 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_GemsPower Gem – 10 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_GemsTotal 25 points
10. King Kandy
Originally posted by King Kandy
Professor Zoom -6 points
Dr. Strange -6 pointsAmalgam Level 1 - 4 points
BFR - 5 points
Prep Time level 2 - 2 points
Knowledge of the opposition level 2 -2 pointsTotal: 25 points
11. Digimark007
The Doctor (6)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...abib_Ben_HassanLex Luthor (1)
http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Lex...%28New_Earth%29Thor (6)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson)Ultimate Reed Richards (2)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mist...stic_(Ultimate)...
Power Boost (4)
Prep Lv. 1 (1)
Spying on Opponent (5)Total: 25
12. SmurphSmash!
Originally posted by SmurphSmash!
Mr. Immortal - 2 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._ImmortalDead Girl - 2 points
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t453087.htmlMystique - 2 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystique_(comics)Loa - 2 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa_(comics)Doorman - 2 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doorman_(comics)Shadow King - 4 points
http://www.comicvine.com/shadow-king/14889/Deadman - 4 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeadmanDKRTYZY RRR - 6 points
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8864/dkrtzyze0.jpgPrep lvl 1 - 1 point
= 25 points
13. Evangel94 – Casual Matches only