The John 3:16 & 4:16 flaw?

It's not the Bible itself that has a problem with women. True, it is a documentation of cultural history as well as a spiritual book, but I think it's the imperfect people of the world that decided women would be backseat drivers when it comes to God. It became so polarized that women were either seen as following the Virgin Mary as chaste, holy figures (even though Mary had sex after the Virgin birth) or as Eves, easily led, morally ambiguous risk takers out to tempt men.

So that's why I think the Bible has not been "updated." The underlying message of love and a relationship with God are timeless and so many parts of it are relevant today.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
It's not the Bible itself that has a problem with women. True, it is a documentation of cultural history as well as a spiritual book, but I think it's the imperfect people of the world that decided women would be backseat drivers when it comes to God. It became so polarized that women were either seen as following the Virgin Mary as chaste, holy figures (even though Mary had sex after the Virgin birth) or as Eves, easily led, morally ambiguous risk takers out to tempt men.

So that's why I think the Bible has not been "updated." The underlying message of love and a relationship with God are timeless and so many parts of it are relevant today.

Would that mean that the bible is not perfect and needs to be updated from time to time?

Originally posted by willofthewisp
It's not the Bible itself that has a problem with women. True, it is a documentation of cultural history as well as a spiritual book, but I think it's the imperfect people of the world that decided women would be backseat drivers when it comes to God. It became so polarized that women were either seen as following the Virgin Mary as chaste, holy figures (even though Mary had sex after the Virgin birth) or as Eves, easily led, morally ambiguous risk takers out to tempt men.

So that's why I think the Bible has not been "updated." The underlying message of love and a relationship with God are timeless and so many parts of it are relevant today.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So basically you are saying that you should ignore all the culture stuff and just deal with the God stuff?

That is like when they say the bible is both literal and figurative, and they just happen to know which is which.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So basically you are saying that you should ignore all the culture stuff and just deal with the God stuff?

In the big picture, yes. Worldly things don't matter nearly as much as the spiritual. If you actually read the Bible, you are able to read all about the women featured in it, yet if you were to go back in time and talk to one of the many educated men of the time, they would dismiss why women were featured at all.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
In the big picture, yes. Worldly things don't matter nearly as much as the spiritual. If you actually read the Bible, you are able to read all about the women featured in it, yet if you were to go back in time and talk to one of the many educated men of the time, they would dismiss why women were featured at all.

Why do you say things like "If you actually read the Bible"? It can be a little insulting, like you are talking to an uneducated and ignorant person.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
In the big picture, yes. Worldly things don't matter nearly as much as the spiritual. If you actually read the Bible, you are able to read all about the women featured in it, yet if you were to go back in time and talk to one of the many educated men of the time, they would dismiss why women were featured at all.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why do you say things like "If you actually read the Bible"? It can be a little insulting, like you are talking to an uneducated and ignorant person.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Why would God with his infinite wisdom and timeless knowledge inspire the scribes of the Bible to write about empowering women and showing them as equal if not leaders of men if the Bible was supposed to be the teacher of all mankind for the rest of eternity? Did the scribes not listen to what was being told to them?

*the Mormon chimes in*

That's because the original messages from the prophets and apostles in the bible were lost, changed, or manipulated. Perverted, if you will. 😉

There is only one god that I follow

😄

Originally posted by Da Pittman
There is only one god that I follow

😄

Who is that? Where is that from? Where can I sign up for that religion?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who is that? Where is that from? Where can I sign up for that religion?

Do we get a flaming sword too? 😄

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who is that? Where is that from? Where can I sign up for that religion?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do we get a flaming sword too? 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do we get a flaming sword too? 😄

My thoughts exactly. Except, I think the flaming energy sword comes with the Shiny golden mobile suit. droolio

Originally posted by dadudemon
My thoughts exactly. Except, I think the flaming energy sword comes with the Shiny golden mobile suit. droolio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind_(Warhammer_40,000)

Originally posted by dadudemon
My thoughts exactly. Except, I think the flaming energy sword comes with the Shiny golden mobile suit. droolio

The armor is a little over kill for my taste.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The armor is a little over kill for my taste.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
pitt_fist You making fun of my god 😛

Well,... yes... at least for now. In 40,000 years my reincarnated self will be on his side. 😉

I might even be him.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
There is only one god that I follow

😄

my god beats the **** outta ur god 😄

My god wins 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman

My god wins 😛

You think so?