Namor vs. Storm

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I have just read something very interesting. storm in fact is able to control the electricity in peoples body, but she doesn't use this power because of the affects it could have. she could very well fry his brain or shut down his heart. she is able to control the electricity in machines, so this is even more proof that she can do it to humans.

I have just read something very interesting. storm in fact is able to control the electricity in peoples body, but she doesn't use this power because of the affects it could have. she could very well fry his brain or shut down his heart. she is able to control the electricity in machines, so this is even more proof that she can do it to humans.

How?

Storm is a mutant with the ability to manipulate weather. She can stimulate any form of precipitation, generate winds in varying degrees of intensity, raise or lower the humidity and temperature in her immediate vicinity, induce lightning and other electrical atmospheric phenomena, and disperse natural storms so as to create clear change.

This is all that is stated by Marvel itself. That she controls the weather, hence, the codename 'Storm'. How the hell does Storm control the bioelectric fields of organic beings and the electric currents running through machines? How the hell does she tap into the electromagnetic spectrum? How does she do anything but control the weather?

That's like saying Wolverine can shoot lightning bolts from his finger-tips due to static electricity combined with electromagnetism generated by his adamantium skeleton.

Sorry to use a Wolverine reference, but it sounded too good to me to pass up.

If Wolverine shuffled his feet for long enough on a good quality carpet, he probably could give you a good shock.

well in there it says she can also manipulate other electrical atmospheric phenomena. her powers aren't just simple weather control, they are energy manipulation which presents itself as the weather. that is how she controls the energy of stars. she literally controls every aspect of the weather, air pressure, and electricity and such.

If Wolverine shuffled his feet for long enough on a good quality carpet, he probably could give you a good shock.

That's all I need, to see Wolverine put on a pair of socks, launch himself into a leap, suddenly stop, skitter and shuffle across the distance between he and his opponent, poke them, and blow them through a wall.

well in there it says she can also manipulate other electrical atmospheric phenomena.

Other electrical atmospheric phenomena. Last I checked, 'bioelectric fields' weren't part of the atmosphere. All that should mean is she can create lightning bolts, lightning storms, ball lightning, etc. I suppose it explains how she creates EMPs, however. Everything else just makes her seem like a Magneto rip-off who hasn't yet bothered to expand beyond 'weather-control' to just get to the meat of it: pure energy source manipulation. If she really can do a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the weather, why doesn't she just fly around on her own power instead of using the winds for propulsion?

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Other electrical atmospheric phenomena. Last I checked, 'bioelectric fields' weren't part of the atmosphere. All that should mean is she can create lightning bolts, lightning storms, ball lightning, etc. I suppose it explains how she creates EMPs, however. Everything else just makes her seem like a Magneto rip-off who hasn't yet bothered to expand beyond 'weather-control' to just get to the meat of it: pure energy source manipulation. If she really can do a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the weather, why doesn't she just fly around on her own power instead of using the winds for propulsion?

Wow. You're being very blunt.

If I'm being a jerk, just tell me.

I'm being a jerk? 😕

I'm confused now. 😕

But aren't we all? wink3

Originally posted by Wanderer259
If I'm being a jerk, just tell me.

You're doing exactly what I've done, it doesn't work. She doesn't seem to be able to comprehend it. Just because a character does something once or twice, that doesn't make it a normal ability for that character.

Stormfront is a guy Nataku.

Anyway for the like the sixth time now. The only instance that I can think of where it could be mistaken that Storm threatens to manipulate a human bioelectric field to stop hearts, is an encounter she had with Shinobi Shaw. She never does this in that encounter and she never even threatens to do this, she basically gives an ultimatum that she'll electrocute him and dares him to stop her heart. To my knowledge she's never been shown to control electrical energy in a human and I can't recall her ever controlling electrical energy in a machine. She does not control electrical energy in the same way Pyro controls heat energy, she can create natural atmospheric electrical phenomena and apparently EMP's (which are probably more electrical pulses than electromagnetic pulses anyway.)
Ergo manipulation of bioelectric fields is not one of her capabilities.

Sun lasers have never been used. The ability to explaining a something does not empower one with the ability to produce something.
Ergo sun lasers are not one of her capabilities.

Power of a billion stars. Laughable.
Ergo power of a billion stars is not one of her capabilities.

Namor would likely win because I believe he'd be capable of bridging whatever distance is between them and knocking her out before she could do anything that would seriously harm him or prevent him from doing so. Storm's lightning and rain are inconsequential in this fight removing her usual offensive versatility, one of her usual advantages. Her ice and altering pressure are of little use either as (already stated) Namor thrives in extreme cold, high pressure deep sea and survives in vacuo.

If she shields herself with a "pressure dome" she would have to maintain that against his formidable attacks, leaving little leeway for her to attack. His endurance is better I can see him being able to attack longer than she can maintain her shields against his attacks.

Sorry if I seem like a dick but I'm kind of sick of people pumping threads full of PIS/CIS/BS, events that only ever happened once or pure conjecture. I like Storm but she likely loses to Namor.

When was storm able to shut down peoples hearts?

These storm threads are like magneto threads, people get ridiculously technical with one example from an incompetent writer, and then use it to win every single match, hell if storm is THAT strong, she should be solo.

Namor is still alot more powerful, I'm saying tie for now...

Namor wins

Imperious Rex

...EMP's (which are probably more electrical pulses than electromagnetic pulses anyway.)

EMPs are caused by either nuclear explosions or the rapid fluctuating of powerful magnetic fields, if I remember correctly.

These storm threads are like magneto threads, people get ridiculously technical with one example from an incompetent writer, and then use it to win every single match, hell if storm is THAT strong, she should be solo.

Magneto has an excuse, Cordera. Whereas Storm controls the weather and the atmosphere, Magneto controls the Earth's entire magnetic sphere. If he took long enough (and possibly used a machine to help him out), he could use the Earth's magnetic sphere to hurl it into the sun. He has complete mastery over magnetism, which is one of the planet's most powerful sources of energy. A lot of physics laws are set and ruled by magnetism.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
EMPs are caused by either nuclear explosions or the rapid fluctuating of powerful magnetic fields, if I remember correctly.

Magneto has an excuse, Cordera. Whereas Storm controls the weather and the atmosphere, Magneto controls the Earth's entire magnetic sphere. If he took long enough (and possibly used a machine to help him out), he could use the Earth's magnetic sphere to hurl it into the sun. He has complete mastery over magnetism, which is one of the planet's most powerful sources of energy. A lot of physics laws are set and ruled by magnetism.

Thats what I'm saying though, I agree with magneto, but not with storm persay, because she is neither consistant nor reallycharacterized to do the things she does. Its not fair to use one example that is really out of a characters boundaries, and rely on it to counter every argument, see what I mean?

I was just nicking at the extremes some use in these threads to see storm win.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
EMPs are caused by either nuclear explosions or the rapid fluctuating of powerful magnetic fields, if I remember correctly.

Magneto has an excuse, Cordera. Whereas Storm controls the weather and the atmosphere, Magneto controls the Earth's entire magnetic sphere. If he took long enough (and possibly used a machine to help him out), he could use the Earth's magnetic sphere to hurl it into the sun. He has complete mastery over magnetism, which is one of the planet's most powerful sources of energy. A lot of physics laws are set and ruled by magnetism.

Storm doesnt just control the weather and atmosphere. Storm has the ability to psionically manipulate energy patterns while on earth these powers are mainly used to manipulate meteorological energy patterns. She has manifested different powers in space and in different dimensions. That explains why storm can create E.M.P's and why she can create energy fields which disrupt electronics as she did when she fought the fury and in AOA against the sentinels

Namor wins 😄 Its common sense