Originally posted by kgkg
👆 😖mart:well said , and it's really simple logic here.
Storm hits namor ------ namor is fine
Namor hits Storm ---------- Storm is K.O'edNamor has shown Speed able to at least touch Storm that's would be enough.
I mean how many times have you seen Storm dodge attacks? i have seen many people nail her 😮
excellent post Metal Manx
Thank you. Too bad I can't take too much credit, for I'm sure it won't convince GalacticStorm.
Can't say I don't try though. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont base your argument on artistic expression. Thats all it was. Nothing more. Do you really think thats possible scientifically yet you want to incorporate science in to this argument by asking how fast he would need to be travelling to get the water to follow him like that? 🙄 Come on Dc it doesnt work like that. Mere artistic expression. Dont over-estimate his speed. He cant fly faster than Mach 1.
Okay. You still can't deny the fact that he crossed the 15-20 meters in a second, and accelatered instantly.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not quite DC. Storm can create a weather pattern as small as the palm of her hand or the size of the eastern coast of the U.S. When Storm is throwing a psionically controlled hurricane able to adapt and shift to his moevements with a thought at Namor isnt dodging it. Namely because it would be two big the weather pattern would cover the battlefield hence the reason i asked "Can Namor dodge the sky?" We clear? His reflexes really dont come into it.
You see, it's just the fact that Storm thinks slower then Namor can think, and therefore she thinks slower then Namor can move. Since the average speed of thought is about 30 m/s, and Namor has SUPERHUMAN speed of thought which translates to SUPERHUMAN reflexes which enable him the get out from the hurricane with SUPERHUMAN speed and strenght before Storm has even realized what has happened. You make Namor seem like an slowpoke, but he is not. And you are also underestimating her flight and strenght. He doesn't need to dodge it. He can blow right through it. To the Storm and to kill her.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for Storm flying and creating a hurricane please dont be ridiculous DC. Storm is no amateur. Plus she only needs to back off until she has created one strong enough which takes all of a few seconds. Psionic manipulation of a battlefield sized weather pattern = no running
You are being ridicolous here. It always takes Storm concetration to create hurricane. I have NEVER seen her create hurricane the size of the battlefield we are talking about, or an hurricane that has to be strong enough to restrict Namor, OR creating an hurricane while she is flying away from a guy who can cross 15 meters in a second. And unless I see something that proves your words, I'm afraid that you are not making very believeable points.
I post proof, how about you?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I know what you were referring to. But as you've found out the cicumstances of this battle mean that Namors reflexes (with the exception of the start) really dont factor in too much. Not when Storms weapons are too big to escape from and when Storm will be keeping her distance.
"Namor has SUPERHUMAN speed of thought which translates to SUPERHUMAN reflexes which enable him the get out from the hurricane with SUPERHUMAN speed and strenght before Storm has even realized what has happened."
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dealt with previously.
Yes, yes.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh please DC why is thinking about creating a hurricane while flying away from Namor too much for Storm? Why on Earth is it going to slow her down to psionically create weather effect she already has to be flying in the first place. It is just a matter of psionically increasing its velocity whilst escaping Namors grasp. A thing she is very capable of doing. I know you love Namor but no need to invent limitations for the opposition. 😉
No, not thinking about hurricane.
Thinking about hurricane that needs to be stronger then normal hurricanes, making it under his psionical control, flying away at mach speeds on the same time and trying to escape an guy who is as fast as she is, twice better flyer then she is and can kill her with one move, is too much for Storm, I am afraid.
Ya'll are really taking Storms power for granting. She has traveled as lightning in Giant Size X-men #1 and Uncanny X-men #145 but I guess some of you havent read those issues right? And she could generate magnetc fields, electromagnetic fields, Jovian Pressure Fields. Lets not forget that she has generated pressure 1,000 times higher than the pressure on Jupiter and has crushed a car to the size of a basketball. And her pwers react with her thought, all tshe has to do is THINK about a tornadoe apperaing in less than 1 secong and it with appear. And she can control water wich she has shown before and has burst out of an electrical cage caused by some electrical muatnt 9which electro is more powerful than him).
Originally posted by montrailAll this has been adressed before...Namor really owns her ass.
Ya'll are really taking Storms power for granting. She has traveled as lightning in Giant Size X-men #1 and Uncanny X-men #145 but I guess some of you havent read those issues right? And she could generate magnetc fields, electromagnetic fields, Jovian Pressure Fields. Lets not forget that she has generated pressure 1,000 times higher than the pressure on Jupiter and has crushed a car to the size of a basketball. And her pwers react with her thought, all tshe has to do is THINK about a tornadoe apperaing in less than 1 secong and it with appear. And she can control water wich she has shown before and has burst out of an electrical cage caused by some electrical muatnt 9which electro is more powerful than him).
But if you want to go at there...
Travelling as lightning won't help her here, I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here...
It took her like ten minutes to create the Jovian Pressure field and after she was done, she was knocked out by the effort...by ten minutes Namor would have already scattered her limbs to five different continents...
She has to THINK to create her tornadoes, but she also has to create a tornado that is strong enough to hold Namor...and she also has to concetrate to create a wind fast enough to escape Namor (Fastest wind speed is like 450 mph, Namor has gone over Mach 1)...
And lets not forget that she has human reactions...while Namor has reaction speed so far beyond humans that it's not even funny...he can actually MOVE with the speed of thought, as shown here:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5035/namorspeedfeat574pj.gif
Not to mention that he has been able to cross something like hundred meters in instant, before these people were even able to move:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2770/namorspeedfeat600kx.gif
So yeah...she only has to think for her powers to work, but by the time she has finished her thought, Namor would already be playing basketball with her head against a herd of seals...
Let's not also forget that all Namor would need to do is to hurl, lets say a stone towards her at mach speeds to her...and through her head...
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/4356/namorfeat410nf.gif
And Namor is one of the best guys with throwing weapons there, he won't miss.
Also, a simple thunderclap would end the fight, and also dissipate any tornadoes she would be able to create.
Her powers are PSIONIC. She thinks about a hurricane in less than 1 second, thwen it will appear. Her winds are strong enought to level mountains and to supoport one single building. And please tell me how travelling as lightning won't help her? In Uncany X-men #449 she created a Jovian Pressure Field to contain a nuclear explosion and it took her nowhere near 10 minutes to create it. She also controls water. Now before this Namor guy could even come near her, she could already have a pressure dome, magnetic field, electromagnetic field, high-density pressure field, and a jovian pressure field waiting for him,lol. Let us not forget about how she can drain every electron from his body thus causing him to die. Ya'll really need to read up on storm. And metalmanx, come up with proof before just saying he can beat her. (not trying to get smart or anything).
Originally posted by montrail
Her powers are PSIONIC. She thinks about a hurricane in less than 1 second, thwen it will appear. Her winds are strong enought to level mountains and to supoport one single building. And please tell me how travelling as lightning won't help her? In Uncany X-men #449 she created a Jovian Pressure Field to contain a nuclear explosion and it took her nowhere near 10 minutes to create it. She also controls water. Now before this Namor guy could even come near her, she could already have a pressure dome, magnetic field, electromagnetic field, high-density pressure field, and a jovian pressure field waiting for him,lol. Let us not forget about how she can drain every electron from his body thus causing him to die. Ya'll really need to read up on storm. And metalmanx, come up with proof before just saying he can beat her. (not trying to get smart or anything).
Alright, let's see what I can do.
Hurricane winds, as powerful as they are, are crap to both mountains and Namor. For one (and I don't know where you people are getting this crazy rumorish information from), hurricane winds can do absolutely nothing to a mountain without the help of both thousands of years and a plethora of debris.
Second. Storm can create hurricane winds. But they're not instant. Yes, her powers are psionic. But the weather does not act at such speeds, save for the lightning.
Storm does not control water. She can cause it rain/flood/monsoon/whatever. But she does not control water.
I have Uncanny X-men #449. She did in fact create a Jovian Pressure field to contain a nuclear explosion. No, it did not take her 10 minutes. But, it also took, at the very least, 2-3 minutes to perform. And the strain on her was immense. If she wanted to create one of those again, Namor would already have her head on a stick if she attempted it.
If you knew how fast Namor can move, you'd realize that Storm cannot create any sort of shield neither fast enough nor powerful enough to stop Namor before he destroys her. He's simply far too powerful. It's not biasness, it's the truth. I would love to see her able to take him (being a ginormous X-Men fan and all), but she simply cannot.
DarkCrawler has all the proof necessary and has already shown everything that needs to be shown. Read back in the thread, my friend.
Originally posted by montrail
Her powers are PSIONIC. She thinks about a hurricane in less than 1 second, thwen it will appear. Her winds are strong enought to level mountains and to supoport one single building. And please tell me how travelling as lightning won't help her? In Uncany X-men #449 she created a Jovian Pressure Field to contain a nuclear explosion and it took her nowhere near 10 minutes to create it. She also controls water. Now before this Namor guy could even come near her, she could already have a pressure dome, magnetic field, electromagnetic field, high-density pressure field, and a jovian pressure field waiting for him,lol. Let us not forget about how she can drain every electron from his body thus causing him to die. Ya'll really need to read up on storm. And metalmanx, come up with proof before just saying he can beat her. (not trying to get smart or anything).
*sigh*
Her powers are PSIONIC, but that does not mean that ALL effects of her powers appear in ONE SECOND, since he manipulates weather patterns, and weather patterns don't make the effects appear in one second. It takes her AT LEAST one second to create even the slightest weather effect, and if she wants to create hurricane big enough to restrict Namor, it will easily taker her at least five seconds to create one, which would not help her at all, because under five seconds, Namor would have already flew a mile, since he can easily accelerate in Mach 1.
Also, Storm can't drain electrons from his body, she's never done it. Storm in no way can create all those things at once, she's never shown multitasking and above human level thinking speed. And Storm does not control water, she controls water's weather effects. Travelling as lightning won't help her at all, seeing as Namor is able to drain lighting and fire it back. And EVEN if she could make a tornado, Namor could simply clap his hands together, creating an immense wave of sound, which would dissipate the tornado.
Doesn't look like we are the ones needing to read up on Storm. 🤨
This "Namor guy", by the way is the first and oldest character of Marvel comics. I'd advise you to read more on his powerlevels and skill. Because he would trump Storm in battle like no tomorrow.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
*sigh*Her powers are PSIONIC, but that does not mean that ALL effects of her powers appear in ONE SECOND, since he manipulates weather patterns, and weather patterns don't make the effects appear in one second. It takes her AT LEAST one second to create even the slightest weather effect, and if she wants to create hurricane big enough to restrict Namor, it will easily taker her at least five seconds to create one, which would not help her at all, because under five seconds, Namor would have already flew a mile, since he can easily accelerate in Mach 1.
Also, Storm can't drain electrons from his body, she's never done it. Storm in no way can create all those things at once, she's never shown multitasking and above human level thinking speed. And Storm does not control water, she controls water's weather effects. Travelling as lightning won't help her at all, seeing as Namor is able to drain lighting and fire it back. And EVEN if she could make a tornado, Namor could simply clap his hands together, creating an immense wave of sound, which would dissipate the tornado.
Doesn't look like we are the ones needing to read up on Storm. 🤨
This "Namor guy", by the way is the first and oldest character of Marvel comics. I'd advise you to read more on his powerlevels and skill. Because he would trump Storm in battle like no tomorrow.
Just thought I'd get the ball rolling for you, DC. I know you're the resident Namor guy around here. Just warming things up for ya, haha.
Rock on, bro.
Originally posted by montrail
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! I just posted TONS of scans proving yall wrong and it said I cant because I'm not well know! I will try again because I WILL prove ya'll wrong. Metalman read a comic before you say her power cant level mountains nor support a building.
Haha...this should be good.
You're telling ME to read a comic? Wow.
Perhaps you should read a comic. Doesn't matter what it is. Just any comic.
But, if you want to sound intelligent, read something with Namor in it. And then you're realize how wrong you are.
If you read what I posted to counter you earlier, I mentioned absolutely nothing about Storm being able to support a building. You know why? Because THAT I actually believe. With enough wind power, she could definitely support a falling building. Level a mountain? No.
You can scream all you want, but you're just wrong.
And why does everyone forget the "x" at the end of my name? Dammnit.
Originally posted by montrail
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! I just posted TONS of scans proving yall wrong and it said I cant because I'm not well know! I will try again because I WILL prove ya'll wrong. Metalman read a comic before you say her power cant level mountains nor support a building.
Namor was supporting undersea buildings and levelling mountains before Storm, her probably or her grandparents were born...literally. 😄
Namor's taken everything from beings that level mountains and THROW AROUND buildings and hasn't been scattered. He's fought the GOD OF WEATHER himself and hasn't lost. Storm can't defeat him. Read those 39 pages before this? Probably not. Because 99% of the stuff you can muster up has been dealt before.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor was supporting undersea buildings and levelling mountains before Storm, her probably or her grandparents were born...literally. 😄Namor's taken everything from beings that level mountains and THROW AROUND buildings and hasn't been scattered. He's fought the GOD OF WEATHER himself and hasn't lost. Storm can't defeat him. Read those 39 pages before this? Probably not. Because 99% of the stuff you can muster up has been dealt before.
I agree with my partner. 😎
yes I have read it. Metal, asorry for that comment about you not reading a comic. Darkcrawler, I know enough about Storm to tell you that she can beat him. In a black panther issue, Storm has cuased an earthquake. Yes I know it has nothing to do with the weather, but their are such finding of "weather earthquakes". Draw eough electrical energy and become a superstrong conductor which will allow her to become more strong and run very fast. Yes, laugh all you want because I found it quite odd when I first herad it. That happens to lts of electrcal conductores and Storm is one. Just at least try to look at the facts behind Storms powers before you speak.
darkcrawler, can you give me an issue about him doing that stuff you just said please. And everytime someone has listed a feat Namor has done on thisthread, its mostly undersea crap. Get his ass out of the water to do what Storm can do. She can remove electrons with just a though. He electrcity has halfly healed her wound before. With one touch, she could tear the flesh off of his body (which would be hard to do seeing as how she;d have to touch him).
