Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...Wow. 😂
Tell me, how does she win...
Because you sure as hell haven't countered any of my points...you see, in debates, you actually have to explain how someone wins...not just say that "they win".
Facts are facts. Jovian pressure fields don't work, Namor laughs at pressures hundreds of times greater. Tornadoes don't work, by clapping his hands together, Namor can dissipate him. He is immune to lightning. Earthquakes don't affect him...actually, nothing does not work, because Storm can't just do ANYTHING before Namor has already killed him. Because NAMOR. IS. FAR. FASTER.
And you seem to be giving up, with pathetic posts like those.
Namor wins. End of story, and unlike you, I have proven my points. Namor has flown past mach speeds in past, and has accelerated there instantly. He also has superhuman reflexes. And he only needs one punch or a clap to end the fight.
wow nice points 😄 and all yeah i vote namor
Oh, that's a year ago, when I didn't know much about Namor yet...
Now, things are different. ✅
Class 100 strength
Massive durability
Ability to absorb and discharge energy
Flight speed well above Mach 1
Superhuman speed and reactions
Ability to use the powers of any sea creature
Ability to draw strength from sea and it's creatures
Is healed instantly when he touches water
Ability to swim with speeds beyond Mach 5
Limited telepathy
Superhuman senses
Immortality
I don't think I missed anything. ✅
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerkool 😎
Oh, that's a year ago, when I didn't know much about Namor yet...Now, things are different. ✅
Class 100 strength
Massive durability
Ability to absorb and discharge energy
Flight speed well above Mach 1
Superhuman speed and reactions
Ability to use the powers of any sea creature
Ability to draw strength from sea and it's creatures
Is healed instantly when he touches water
Ability to swim with speeds beyond Mach 5
Limited telepathy
Superhuman senses
Immortality
I don't think I missed anything. ✅
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...Wow. 😂
Tell me, how does she win...
Because you sure as hell haven't countered any of my points...you see, in debates, you actually have to explain how someone wins...not just say that "they win".
Facts are facts. Jovian pressure fields don't work, Namor laughs at pressures hundreds of times greater. Tornadoes don't work, by clapping his hands together, Namor can dissipate him. He is immune to lightning. Earthquakes don't affect him...actually, nothing does not work, because Storm can't just do ANYTHING before Namor has already killed him. Because NAMOR. IS. FAR. FASTER.
And you seem to be giving up, with pathetic posts like those.
Namor wins. End of story, and unlike you, I have proven my points. Namor has flown past mach speeds in past, and has accelerated there instantly. He also has superhuman reflexes. And he only needs one punch or a clap to end the fight.
And heres a little reminder of what REAL power is before I leave this non useless-storm already has this fight-thread:
http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=possibilites0dv.jpg
Memorize that the next time you think Namor could even beat Storm..thats RAW INFINITE power. Now you little "Namor worrshipers" go play along and get proved wrong in some other thread that'll just think your crazy as you sound. Peace out, 😎
Getting angry at losing, are we? Laughable. 😂
"She's just too powerful" isn't a good explanation. Explain to me, how she wins this. If you can't, you lose.
As for RAW INFINITE POWER, Namor is descendant of Neptune, GOD of the seas and earthly successor for his power.
He's simply too fast for Storm. Storm can't do anything before she is killed. Not even think.
And here are facts:
You haven't proven anything.
I have.
You are pathetic debater.
Namor wins.
Originally posted by montrail
🙄 Dang, you just don't get it do you? I havent given up, its just pointless to argue about a person who storm can beat 😆 . She's just too powerful. And thats something you'll have to deal with. As for your little friends, give up. Storm wins. Just had to tell ya'll that before ya'll have a fit because I proven ya'll wrong constantly 😉 .And heres a little reminder of what REAL power is before I leave this non useless-storm already has this fight-thread:
http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=possibilites0dv.jpgMemorize that the next time you think Namor could even beat Storm..thats RAW INFINITE power. Now you little "Namor worrshipers" go play along and get proved wrong in some other thread that'll just think your crazy as you sound. Peace out, 😎
Wow. That was all just rather...sad.
What are you? 9 years old? I'm sorry you missed the Power Rangers on TV, but there's no reason to take out your disappointment on us.
This fellow truly is one of the funniest new guys ever. It has taken some people years to grow from their old stage to a debater who can be taken seriously...I bet this one needs at least ten years...
I mean, at least others can explain his reasons. "Storm wins blah blah blah" is the most pathetic defense ever.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
[B]Facts are facts. Jovian pressure fields don't work, Namor laughs at pressures hundreds of times greater.]
What always get me about Namor and Aquaman is that people use the fact that they live at the bottom of the sea as a reason to point out their ability to withstand extreme pressure.
Both Namor and Aquaman breathe water, meaning that the internal and external pressure would be equal.
There are fish that live at the bottom of the sea and they are not particularly stronger then fish who don't live on the sea floor.
So yes, a Jovian pressure field would affect him. Heck, even fish get the bends.
Tornadoes don't work, by clapping his hands together, Namor can dissipate him.
He is immune to lightning.
Earthquakes don't affect him.
..actually, nothing does not work, because Storm can't just do ANYTHING before Namor has already killed him.
Because NAMOR. IS. FAR. FASTER.
Namor has flown past mach speeds in past, and has accelerated there instantly. He also has superhuman reflexes.
And he only needs one punch or a clap to end the fight.
A punch would take her out but a clap is iffy, seeing that she once withstood a clap from the Hulk (see Hulk 444).
Interesting debate 🙂
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Uh...no.What always get me about Namor and Aquaman is that people use the fact that they live at the bottom of the sea as a reason to point out their ability to withstand extreme pressure.
Both Namor and Aquaman breathe water, meaning that the internal and external pressure would be equal.
There are fish that live at the bottom of the sea and they are not particularly stronger then fish who don't live on the sea floor.
So yes, a Jovian pressure field would affect him. Heck, even fish get the bends.
Actually...
That would go around if you go with real world with real science. But this is a comic book character in a comic book world we are talking about.
Namor is stronger and more durable then humans. If Namor ONLY could live in sea, under incredible pressure, you could have a point. BUT, his body survives in normal pressure. In space, where there is no pressure at all. In pressure which is hundred thousand times more then in ground.
So, we know that he is able to easily survive in pressures between 0-200,000 kilopascals. The jovian pressure field's 100 kilopascals fit between there, on lower end.
Like I said, Namor would laugh at it.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
That’s nice but he has never faced a tornado back by Storm’s will.
But he has faced a cosmic tornado with restrained Silver Surfer, Hulk and Doctor Strange, and tornado made by Beyonder. A thunderclap would dissipate the tornado like nothing, because Storm isn't fast enough to stop it from dissipating, since thunderclaps go past the speed of sound...
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Hmmm…when has he been struck by lightning? Plus, immune is such a strong word, especially when you consider that Storm has the planet’s electro-magnetic field back her up.
One of his powers is to absorb and redirect energy. Especially electricity. Lightning is electricity.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
I agree with you, mostly because he can fly
And because he could jump around there using his superhuman speed and agility...he's jumped from meteor to meteor. Their LOWEST speeds are Mach 32. Navigating around in earthquake would not be nearly as difficult.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Well she could forcefully remove the air form his lungs
While his mouth is closed? With his durability? Doubt that. She's only done that to Jean Grey, whose durability is laughable compared to Namor's, and she had her mouth open. Storm controls weather, not air. She used a tornade to remove the air out from Jean Grey's lungs-
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Maybe with reflexes but I don’t know about flight speed, seeing that Storm has used her winds to fly from Australia to Antarctica within hours. She has also flown as fast as lightning, which if I remember correctly is around 60,000 miles a second.
I have never seen Storm fly as fast as lightning. Show me a scan, or an issue number. Otherwise, you can't prove it.
As for Namor, he has flew 100,000 feet in seconds (The LOWEST speed required to do that would be Mach 1,5)
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He's flown from USA to Himalayas (China) in hours:
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He's flown from USA to Antarctica in less then a day...
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And there are other flightspeed feats like that, as him catching up with WWII fighter jets after they have left ground, etc.
Besides, Storm's flight speed would not matter, because her thinking speed is still the same as trained human's.
Whereas speed of Namor's thought is probably close to 50-100 times to that of a human's...seeing as he dodges lasers from close range, jumps from meteor to meteor, moves his hands with incredible speeds among other things...
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Originally posted by HandOfFate
A punch would take her out but a clap is iffy, seeing that she once withstood a clap from the Hulk (see Hulk 444).Interesting debate 🙂
Wasn't much of a clap, Cable was next to Hulk and wasn't even affected. Hulk has made claps that have been compared with nuclear force and have demolished entire cities...that was far from his strongest ones.
The strongest clap that a human is able to is 100 decibels...the decibel limit where a human starts feeling pain is 110...Namor is probably million times stronger then human, so his clap would be thousands of times louder...
I'd say Storm's brains would explode alongside with his eardrums too.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually...That would go around if you go with real world with real science. But this is a comic book character in a comic book world we are talking about.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor is stronger and more durable then humans.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
In space, where there is no pressure at all.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
In pressure which is hundred thousand times more then in ground.So, we know that he is able to easily survive in pressures between 0-200,000 kilopascals. The jovian pressure field's 100 kilopascals fit between there, on lower end.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But he has faced a cosmic tornado with restrained Silver Surfer, Hulk and Doctor Strange, and tornado made by Beyonder.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
A thunderclap would dissipate the tornado like nothing, because Storm isn't fast enough to stop it from dissipating, since thunderclaps go past the speed of sound...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
One of his powers is to absorb and redirect energy. Especially electricity. Lightning is electricity.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
While his mouth is closed? With his durability? Doubt that. She's only done that to Jean Grey, whose durability is laughable compared to Namor's, and she had her mouth open.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Storm controls weather, not air. She used a tornade to remove the air out from Jean Grey's lungs-
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I have never seen Storm fly as fast as lightning. Show me a scan, or an issue number. Otherwise, you can't prove it.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wasn't much of a clap, Cable was next to Hulk and wasn't even affected. Hulk has made claps that have been compared with nuclear force and have demolished entire cities...that was far from his strongest ones.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The strongest clap that a human is able to is 100 decibels...the decibel limit where a human starts feeling pain is 110...Namor is probably million times stronger then human, so his clap would be thousands of times louder...
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Maybe with reflexes but I don’t know about flight speed, seeing that Storm has used her winds to fly from Australia to Antarctica within hours. She has also flown as fast as lightning, which if I remember correctly is around 60,000 miles a second.
This is all I'm curious about here. When has Storm ever shown to be able to fly at such speeds? I'm really genuinely curious here. Can you post a scan? Or even a comic number so someone else can look it up?
Originally posted by HandOfFate
True, but it still doesn’t change my pointAgain true, seeing that he is a mutant.
Yeah, so has Storm for a minute or so, if I remember correctly.
Cool, what issue?
Well, as one example, he went to Hellencian Trench, where the pressure is 44000 Kilopascals. Thats already many, many, many times of what Storm is capable of.
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Pressure fields simply won't work.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
This proves what? 😕 He didn’t over power the tornado. AAMOF, he use almost all his strength just to grab the Surfer’s board, which if is I remember correctly wasn’t that far from him.
It just proves that he has been okay in tornadoes stronger then those...
Originally posted by HandOfFate
You don’t know that as fact. To my knowledge, nobody has ever tried to disperse Storm’s tornadoes with a thunderclap. I will concede the point if he has actually done this to a tornado create by Thor
Yes I do. The thunderclap will move with speed of sound. Storm simply is not able to react to something that is able to move with the speed of sound. She has human reactions.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
There a big different between electricity discharge and lightning. One is a lot more powerful.
But they still have the same electricity amount. Namor has absorbed so much electricity that he was glowing.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
You do know most people usually breath through their nose.🙂
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Excuse me. 😕 I’ll let you think about that. Where do you think tornadoes are made of?
They are a result of weather phenomena. It's called wind.
Storm does not telekinetically control air particles to move them with high speeds. She controls weather, and winds.
Like I said, she control weather, not winds.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
I tried to post the pic for you but it seems newbie can't do that. What else can I do? 🙁
Post the image adress? Issue number?
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yeah but his weakest clap is probably average for Namor. 😛
Are you saying that Namor's best clap is one that doesn't even hurt an guy directly next to him?
Originally posted by HandOfFate
You do realize that his thunderclap depends on air? Which is something Storm controls?
No, she controls winds, not air. ✅
Hell, even tornadoes are made through manipulation of pressure.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
This is all I'm curious about here. When has Storm ever shown to be able to fly at such speeds? I'm really genuinely curious here. Can you post a scan? Or even a comic number so someone else can look it up?
Dang it, I wish I could post pics. Anyway, it was Uncanny X-men 147. She rode a lightning bolt to the edge of space.
