Namor vs. Storm

Storm. my reasons are as follows:

We' ll start with Deffense:

#1
As to the speed of Namor's reflexes I won't argue (not that familiar).
However, it is canon that Storm can see the impulses (neurons firing in the brian) from thought to muscle to action. This gives her the edge in any fight (as stated in canon) Think Nedji's "Beyakugon".

#2
As for her speed, Mach 1 at best (utilizing a fast moving jet stream). Storm has also been shown, twice, traveling by lightning

#3
As per her duribility, nothing has ever been shown to pierce/puncture her "Jovian Preasure field" (a field capable of busting through mountains, while carying IceMan and Colossus). If she encased herself in a preasure field, Namor would have a hard time getting to her.

#4
Storm can create any number of atmospheric stalling/confusing phenomina (sp)
Fog, Dense Cloud Cover, Sand Storms, Sun blinding (via the same process used to create the "Sun Lense". and would probably take less effort and time), Heat, and Cold Extremes.

Now, for Offense:

#1 Lightning (Hand or environment generated). As stated before, at it's best is 3x's hotter than the surface of the sun. (Namor can absorb and rechannel energy, but to what degree? Is he a better candidate than Polaris who was overwheled by Storm's power?)

#2 Plasma (Hand generated). Hotter than lightning (think Lightning beam)

#3 Electrolyisis (sp) (Hand generated). Breaks water down to it's base componants of Hydrogen and oxygen.

#4 Winds (hand and environment generated): up Drafts, Down Drafts, Jet Stream, Gale Force, Hurricanes, Tornedoes, Typhoons, Jovian preasure fields, Down Bursts, Fog, Pollution (concentrated into a poison gas), and by extension Acid Rain.

#5 Flash Freezing (environment generated) (credits include: Colossus, Omega Red, Phalanx)

#6 Hail (environment generated)

#7 Sweltering Heat (environment generated)

#8 Sun Beam (environment generated)

If all these weapons don't give her the edge, Then the fact that she can combine any # of these in infinite different ways most asuredly does.

Also consider the fact that Storm's powers are Omindirectional. That being said, the longer the fight lasts the more Namor will weaken (out of the water, and under EXTREME environmental duress) Storm's odds increase dramatically, if not exponentially.

She has also shown molecular control recently in FF by diverting the Hydrogen atoms in space to condense around the Silver Surfer (one element short of creating an atmosphere).

Don't forget she can dehydrate him. No water, no power for Namor.

She could instantly call up supersonic sweltering winds by drawing heat from the earth and driving it at him along with all kinds of projectiles all while simultaneously Striking with Positive bolts of lightning. He'd be literally incenerate and dispoed of at the same time.

You do know they'll just ignore all that and say he speed blitzes her based on his one time feat, right.??

These people are amazing.

They always base their bias on their hatred of me, which is bullshit.

Also notwithstanding that 300,000 amperes will creamate him???

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#1
As to the speed of Namor's reflexes I won't argue (not that familiar).
However, it is canon that Storm can see the impulses (neurons firing in the brian) from thought to muscle to action. This gives her the edge in any fight (as stated in canon) Think Nedji's "Beyakugon".

It's just one of those things that doesn't seem as useful as advertised, like Deathstroke using 90% of his brain.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#1
As to the speed of Namor's reflexes I won't argue (not that familiar).
However, it is canon that Storm can see the impulses (neurons firing in the brian) from thought to muscle to action. This gives her the edge in any fight (as stated in canon) Think Nedji's "Beyakugon".

That's a major exaggeration. Tha Bakyagan gives the user a huge variety of advantages when all it's powers are understood. Neji also spends a huge amount of time training to use it Storm hasn't been shown to use her perception altering constantly.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#2
As for her speed, Mach 1 at best (utilizing a fast moving jet stream). Storm has also been shown, twice, traveling by lightning

Jetstream is way too high up to be useful here. That also doesn't equate to combat speed or reflexes.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#3
As per her duribility, nothing has ever been shown to pierce/puncture her "Jovian Preasure field" (a field capable of busting through mountains, while carying IceMan and Colossus). If she encased herself in a preasure field, Namor would have a hard time getting to her.

How many showing does this pressure field have? Who has actually tried to break it? How long did it take to make?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#4
Storm can create any number of atmospheric stalling/confusing phenomina (sp)
Fog, Dense Cloud Cover, Sand Storms, Sun blinding (via the same process used to create the "Sun Lense". and would probably take less effort and time), Heat, and Cold Extremes.

SunLense? The rest don't seem like they would really help 😬

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#1 Lightning (Hand or environment generated). As stated before, at it's best is 3x's hotter than the surface of the sun. (Namor can absorb and rechannel energy, but to what degree? Is he a better candidate than Polaris who was overwheled by Storm's power?)

Very good offense. Her best shot at winning IMO.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#2 Plasma (Hand generated). Hotter than lightning (think Lightning beam)

I'd like to see this. Seriously if she's really done that it'd be pretty cool.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#3 Electrolyisis (sp) (Hand generated). Breaks water down to it's base componants of Hydrogen and oxygen.

Hand generated? Examples?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#4 Winds (hand and environment generated): up Drafts, Down Drafts, Jet Stream, Gale Force, Hurricanes, Tornedoes, Typhoons, Jovian preasure fields, Down Bursts, Fog, Pollution (concentrated into a poison gas), and by extension Acid Rain.

It takes a long time to collect polution from the air. Those are great against a land based opponent but since Namor can fly and manuver in the air she'll have to to a bit better than that.

Tonadoes would probably be quite effective though.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#5 Flash Freezing (environment generated) (credits include: Colossus, Omega Red, Phalanx)

Not that I don't trust you but could you tell me the issues where she did this.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#6 Hail (environment generated)

Takes time to make and Namor has more than enough duarability to take even the stuff in DayAfterTomorrow

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#7 Sweltering Heat (environment generated)

Oh noes! Who can survive against that!

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
#8 Sun Beam (environment generated)

🤨

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Partially related to the fight, even though it says it gives her the edge in any fight, in canon, I can't imagine it helps much at all unless her opponent is untrained or maybe spotting surprise attacks from an opponent she can already see. The brain is always firing neurons and an experienced fighter will always be moving and thus always have muscle impulses firing in rapid succession.

True.
But, to Storm's credit she is also a seasoned and trained combatant (i think she knows what to look for).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
[B]That's a major exaggeration. Tha Bakyagan gives the user a huge variety of advantages when all it's powers are understood. Neji also spends a huge amount of time training to use it Storm hasn't been shown to use her perception altering constantly.

True, but as stated in two different issues of Xtreme sanctions she is adept enough to follow the signals like tracing a cable. (Neji's eyes (at the fundamental level) perceives the enemy's "chakra" network. Storm altering her perception see's the "Neural" network. depending on your ability to consider abstract themes these could be considered one and the same.) The point is, in a combat situation, she is capable of knowing what you're going to do before your muscles do.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Jetstream is way too high up to be useful here. That also doesn't equate to combat speed or reflexes.

She has been shown moving from ground to sky, very quickly, using the jet stream.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How many showing does this pressure field have? Who has actually tried to break it? How long did it take to make?.

you can see some pressure done stuff (busting out of a mountain with Iceman and colossus in tow) on the first page of the Storm respect thread (the guy has them labeled for the feat).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
SunLense? The rest don't seem like they would really help 😬
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Unless Namor has Super Senses, I can see Storm using the others very effectively to buy the time and distance she needs.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd like to see this. Seriously if she's really done that it'd be pretty cool.
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OK. Granted it's not a "Lightning Beam", per say, it's more like a "Lightning Blade" this can also be seen on the first page of her respect thread.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hand generated? Examples?

respect thread under "electrolysis" (sp)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It takes a long time to collect polution from the air. Those are great against a land based opponent but since Namor can fly and manuver in the air she'll have to to a bit better than that.

Him being in the air is the beginning of the end. Namor is still subject to turbulent forces (he can be rocked by a strong gale while in flight) A twister restricts his movements while she gathers the pollution.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not that I don't trust you but could you tell me the issues where she did this.

Not off the top, but its all on the respect thread

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Takes time to make and Namor has more than enough duarability to take even the stuff in DayAfterTomorrow

The hail serves as a distortion. But, can later annoy, frustrate, and even pummel Namor latter in the fight.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh noes! Who can survive against that!

Given Namor's physiology this would work allot like kryptonite (what would happen if she was constantly, and quickly bouncing between the two extremes).

Give me a scenerio, and i'll tell you how she wins, blow for blow

Freezing stuff

good lookin out chief

Plasma

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Give me a scenerio, and i'll tell you how she wins, blow for blow

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Namor punches her in the face. And she dies. 😐

Storm wins this easily

Zap, one bolt and he's dead.

Or a couple metal spears at > speed of sound to impale him.

Storm 10/10

Namor too weak for the Goddess who only can be compared with the PF.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm wins this easily

Zap, one bolt and he's dead.

Or a couple metal spears at > speed of sound to impale him.

Storm 10/10

Namor too weak for the Goddess who only can be compared with the PF.

You make it really bad for the Storm lovers.13

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Namor too weak for the Goddess who only can be compared with the PF.

PF as in Phoenix Force...

😐

anyway, Storm 6/10...

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm incredibly tempted to go wild on this statement.

I'm serious, maybe it will be fun AND educational

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Pure oxygen isn't poisonous in Marvel? [/B]

that's a good question. But, theoretically, this could be an awsome, devestating, and potentially lethal weapon for her where this fight is concerned.

(Namor garnering strength from water and Storm being able to break water down to it's base componants.)

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Pure oxygen isn't poisonous in Marvel?

Short term exposure and the addition of CO2 fromm peopele breathing as well as impurites in the water would off set that a bit.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I'm serious, maybe it will be fun AND educational

Storm has a handful of spaghetti and is wearing an over-sized foam cowboy hat. Namor has rubber bands around his first and third fingers on his left hand and a pizza cutter in his right and has a mouth full of grated Parmesan cheese. A normal wheel cutter, not the big blade deal they have at some places. They both have Lirpas super-glued to their free hand.

The kitchen area is standard for a pizza place except in the freezer is Olmec from Legends of the Hidden Temple who is creating a vortex, both gravitationally and through conventional suction, into an infinitely vast pocket dimension inside his mouth where everything is aged a thousand years a second. This vortex is strong enough to tear apart anything that should block it and the freezer door is jammed open with a human femur.

There are 11 adults in the establishment and 7 kids, but they're all zombies, and the sprinkler system is constantly on. Both of them are wearing magically invincible ski-boots attached to the same set of magically invincible skis except they are facing each other, not like a tandem bike or something. Also, the enchantment is nullified by Olmec's mouth vortex, if they get caught.

The entire thing is mounted upside down so when they start, everything crashes to the floor, which is done up like the ceiling. So they'll probably fall through the fake floor/ceiling tiles before Olmec opens his mouth and that starts pulling them in.

And finally, both of them have their shins broken before the fight and they both have rabies.

I challenge you!

that's a good question. But, theoretically, this could be an awsome, devestating, and potentially lethal weapon for her where this fight is concerned.

(Namor garnering strength from water and Storm being able to break water down to it's base componants.)