not relevant, we're talking strictly force, that was a sword duel.Apparently you missed the part where Dooku put Obi-Wan on his ass, and tossed him aside like a ragdoll twenty seconds later.
if the terms were set, to force alone the result might have been diffrentDamn right. Anakin and Obi-Wan would've been tooled.
Originally posted by Faunus
Apparently you missed the part where Dooku put Obi-Wan on his ass, and tossed him aside like a ragdoll twenty seconds later.Damn right. Anakin and Obi-Wan would've been tooled.
agian , obi was going for swords as oppose to force so you cant wiegh that as a "force fight only' and you have no proof that obi and anakin wouldve gotten tooled haha, did you see what anakin did to the techno union haha dude, obi and anakin would press dooku out like a grape with the force
agian , obi was going for swords as oppose to force so you cant wiegh that as a "force fight only' and you have no proof that obi and anakin wouldve gotten tooled haha, did you see what anakin did to the techno union haha dude, obi and anakin would press dooku out like a grape with the forceI could typo, not use proper punctuation or capitalization, and toss in "haha"s and mentions of grapes, too.
- obiwong can pul, lightsaber furce out of his beard nd cill duku yes dude and anikan and obi will win Omg!!?1 graopes? -
... Yeah. When Obi-Wan does anything to show he can make the likes of Mace or Dooku so much as flinch, you get back to me.
Originally posted by Faunus
I could typo, not use proper punctuation or capitalization, and toss in "haha"s and mentions of grapes, too.- obiwong can pul, lightsaber furce out of his beard nd cill duku yes dude and anikan and obi will win [b]Omg!!?1 graopes?
-... Yeah. When Obi-Wan does anything to show he can make the likes of Mace or Dooku so much as flinch, you get back to me. [/B]
It's so funny yet sad, you dont have the logic to defeat my arguments so you criticize my typo's but my analogy still stands, given my example of anakins force ferocity. and if you want examples of obi wan's Force power just read my previous posts. because as i said, there is no clear cut answer to the question. dont oversimplify it with your oversimplified way of thinking please.
Originally posted by Man of Christ"Logic" is obviously an alien notion to you, and you have no arguments.
It's so funny yet sad, you dont have the logic to defeat my arguments
so you criticize my typo'sMore your lack of respect for proper grammar, but sure.
but my analogy still stands, given my example of anakins force ferocity.First off, Anakin isn't even part of this thread, so there's no reason for me to waste anymore time or effort on that than I already have. Second, your "analogy" sucks. At least Google some good metaphors or similes for "ownage" if you can't come up with them yourself...
and if you want examples of obi wan's Force power just read my previous posts.I did. And I found them lacking.
because as i said, there is no clear cut answer to the question.Yeah, there is. Obi-Wan's highest showings in the Force are tossing away Grievous and stalemating Anakin. Mace triggered and "rode" a landslide said to contain several hundred tons of rock while on his back, was able to speed himself up to the point where he could land six blows to the "immensely" powerful Kar Vastor - in the jungle, on Vastor's terms, in an unarmed brawl - before he could blink, and managed to fight his way through a droid army with the Force and his bare hands.
dont oversimplify it with your oversimplified way of thinking please.Since it's really very, very simple, I think that's exactly what I'll do.
You know, you're fun to have around, which is why I'm still replying to this. We need more people like you.
Originally posted by Faunus
"Logic" is obviously an alien notion to you, and you have no arguments.More your lack of respect for proper grammar, but sure.
First off, Anakin isn't even part of this thread, so there's no reason for me to waste anymore time or effort on that than I already have. Second, your "analogy" sucks. At least Google some good metaphors or similes for "ownage" if you can't come up with them yourself...
I did. And I found them lacking.
Yeah, there is. Obi-Wan's highest showings in the Force are tossing away Grievous and stalemating Anakin. Mace triggered and "rode" a landslide said to contain several hundred tons of rock while on his back, was able to speed himself up to the point where he could land six blows to the "immensely" powerful Kar Vastor - in the jungle, on Vastor's terms, in an unarmed brawl - before he could blink, and managed to fight his way through a droid army with the Force and his bare hands.
Since it's really very, very simple, I think that's exactly what I'll do.
You know, you're fun to have around, which is why I'm still replying to this. We need more people like you.
this is like debating a child.
bashing is for 6 year olds, please debate like an adult.
obi wan is seen as extremly resourseful and quick on his feet, which would give him the advantage in a crowded area. besides obi wan had the strength in the force to pull himself outta the dark side quite a few times, which speak to his internal strength so again, it depends on the enviroment in which they fight.
Originally posted by Man of ChristYou're debating?
this is like debating a child.
bashing is for 6 year olds, please debate like an adult.Please type like one.
obi wan is seen as extremly resourseful and quick on his feet, which would give him the advantage in a crowded area. besides obi wan had the strength in the force to pull himself outta the dark side quite a few times, which speak to his internal strength so again,First: that doesn't require "strength" as in raw power. It takes conviction and willpower, and no one's doubting that Obi-Wan has either.
Second: you've obviously you've never read Shatterpoint.
Ever hear of Vaapad? Mace lives on the edge of darkness; his style of combat demands it, and the only other practitioners (Depa, Sora) both fell to the Dark side through its use. The fact that Obi-Wan has slipped up so many times, while Mace has only one related "error" to his name, shows that Windu demonstrates at least as much of this "strength" as Obi-Wan.
Third: this is completely irrelevant.
it depends on the enviroment in which they fight.No, it doesn't. Against someone similar in skill, like Anakin or Asajj, yes, Obi-Wan's cleverness can net him some like unlikely wins. But here he faces an opponent who is leagues above him in almost every combat-related quality. Not that it's even relevant here, as none of Obi-Wan's offensive Force attacks (uh, Push?) are going to be able to pierce Mace's defense, while the opposite is, well, just the opposite.
I've actually provided considerably more proof than is necessary, especially since you have absolutely none.
Originally posted by Faunus
You're debating?
Please type like one.
First: that doesn't require "strength" as in raw power. It takes conviction and willpower, and no one's doubting that Obi-Wan has either.Second: you've obviously you've never read Shatterpoint.
Ever hear of Vaapad? Mace lives on the edge of darkness; his style of combat demands it, and the only other practitioners (Depa, Sora) both fell to the Dark side through its use. The fact that Obi-Wan has slipped up so many times, while Mace has only one related "error" to his name, shows that Windu demonstrates at least as much of this "strength" as Obi-Wan.
Third: this is completely irrelevant.
No, it doesn't. Against someone similar in skill, like Anakin or Asajj, yes, Obi-Wan's cleverness can net him some like unlikely wins. But here he faces an opponent who is leagues above him in almost every combat-related quality. Not that it's even relevant here, as none of Obi-Wan's offensive Force attacks (uh, Push?) are going to be able to pierce Mace's defense, while the opposite is, well, just the opposite.
I've actually provided considerably more proof than is necessary, especially since you have absolutely none.
you seem to be an overt fan of mace, but fail to relize that just beacuse you like him doesnt mean he pwns every one. ive got more important things to do, because i have a life. Goodnight Sir.
Eh, superconducting loop deflects force powers such as lightning, push, etc. If obi-wan pushed Mace, mace would deflect it back and send obi-wan flying.
After reading shatterpoint, watching CW, reading EU and other stuff about Windu, my conclusion is that Windu would win. Thanks for the great debate guys 😄
Originally posted by Darth_noodle
Eh, superconducting loop deflects force powers such as lightning, push, etc. If obi-wan pushed Mace, mace would deflect it back and send obi-wan flying.After reading shatterpoint, watching CW, reading EU and other stuff about Windu, my conclusion is that Windu would win. Thanks for the great debate guys 😄
isnt one of the prerequisittes of the superconducting loop that the enemy be a darksider?