MMT: Character Discussion(Banning/Trading/etc)

Started by Laminator_X29 pages

Trickster Priest and Raoul both said they might give Loki a second consideration. Have either of you given him further thought? Do you (or anyone) have any specific reservations that I might be able to address or assuage?

Ha... Batdude, undermined...

He was easily capable of reaching objects in orbit around the Earth and pinpointing multiple persons and teleporting them away without being present at the time. However, before the upgrade even, he has been shown to stalemate Mister Majestic in a strength match. He's also had a crossover with Apollo where he knocked him out in 4 punches before his first upgrade.

hmm, this bit about spartan/void has me a bit concerned. majestic is certainly out of this class. if he stalemated majestic THEN was upgraded further . . .

sorry bw, don't know enough to say ban him yet, but that certainly raises questions for me. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, this bit about spartan/void has me a bit concerned. majestic is certainly out of this class. if he stalemated majestic THEN was upgraded further . . .

sorry bw, don't know enough to say ban him yet, but that certainly raises questions for me. 😬


If Spartan was stalemating Mr. Majestic hand to hand, then he should be out considering Majestic is ranked as high herald. I'm going to have to vote against him.

He had like 20 to 1 numbers advantage. In the fight he was also shown to be much less durable than him. Ill admit he won, but Spartan is the Wonder Woman to Majestics Superman.

I don't like the idea that he's Blink + Majestic... 😐

Originally posted by Blair Wind
He had like 20 to 1 numbers advantage. In the fight he was also shown to be much less durable than him. Ill admit he won, but Spartan is the Wonder Woman to Majestics Superman.

Umm.. Isn't the version you're trying to draft listed as a high herald in the tier thread?


Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Kurse, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R, KC, and AS), Thor, The Void, Zoom II (Hunter Solomon)

I'll tentatively side with Blair (for a change) at least for the moment. My knowledge of him isn't complete, but he is written under Majestic in the comics I've seen him in, and it's not like teleportation is a > mid-herald feat, nor is beating Apollo (which is in the wiki bio but may be a lie...I've never even heard of it, which raises my eyebrow because of how thorough I've tried to be with Authority appearances, even in other books).

Can the teleportation just make himself teleport, or can he remotely teleport things like Blink?

For everyone to see:
Spartan with help (all his models)
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspartan05eh5ym8.jpg

And the Main spartan after a battle with Majestic:
http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspartan20eb3vf5.jpg

Yes, Spartan wins. After him and his crew (look how many people are there) rough Majestic up a bit.

Like I said, comparable? Only so much as Wonder Woman is comparable to Superman.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
For everyone to see:
Spartan with help (all his models)
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspartan05eh5ym8.jpg

And the Main spartan after a battle with Majestic:
http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspartan20eb3vf5.jpg

Yes, Spartan wins. After him and his crew (look how many people are there) rough Majestic up a bit.

Like I said, comparable? Only so much as Wonder Woman is comparable to Superman.

I'm sorry but Spartan is ranked as high herald for a reason. He's more like Wonder Woman combined with Blink and the Engineer.

Here's a list of his powers:

The Spartans are fully sentient robots that are built as personal bodyguards as well as a police force on Khera. Each Spartan has a "brain" more powerful than any other computer (on Earth or otherwise), is programmed to be able to use any technology it comes across, is equipped with powerful lasers, is skilled in armed and unarmed combat, has superhuman levels of strength, speed and durability, superhuman senses, and posses the ability to fly. Spartans are also capable of self-repair so they can mend themselves after battle. If the damage is too severe they can transmit their intelligence to other machines to stay alive. Spartan's connection with other machines is rather impressive. He can wirelessly connect with any computer system and bend it to his will. In an alternate future he showed himself to be adept at controlling hundreds of copies of himself in battle at once. Over the years Spartan has been upgraded many times and is even more powerful than he was originally. The greatest change was his acquisition of Void's powers. Spartan is now capable of teleporting himself, others and objects from place to place with no effort. Distance is not an issue (he has easily gone from his office to space and back) and neither is precision. He can teleport specific things, large groups and even move different things all across the world at the same time. His teleportation also allows him to enter other dimensions at will. Aside from teleportation, Void's powers increased all of Spartan's physical attributes, making him now strong, fast and durable enough to face beings like Mr. Majestic in all out combat and win. His use of energy has also been affected and increased. Not only are his energy blasts now more powerful, Spartan is able to create energy shields, holograms, and energy constructs formed from pink light, the signature color of Void's powers.

Originally posted by Akuki
I'm sorry but Spartan is ranked as high herald for a reason. He's more like Wonder Woman combined with Blink and the Engineer.

Here's a list of his powers:

The Spartans are fully sentient robots that are built as personal bodyguards as well as a police force on Khera. Each Spartan has a "brain" more powerful than any other computer (on Earth or otherwise), is programmed to be able to use any technology it comes across, is equipped with powerful lasers, is skilled in armed and unarmed combat, has superhuman levels of strength, speed and durability, superhuman senses, and posses the ability to fly. Spartans are also capable of self-repair so they can mend themselves after battle. If the damage is too severe they can transmit their intelligence to other machines to stay alive. Spartan's connection with other machines is rather impressive. He can wirelessly connect with any computer system and bend it to his will. In an alternate future he showed himself to be adept at controlling hundreds of copies of himself in battle at once. Over the years Spartan has been upgraded many times and is even more powerful than he was originally. The greatest change was his acquisition of Void's powers. Spartan is now capable of teleporting himself, others and objects from place to place with no effort. Distance is not an issue (he has easily gone from his office to space and back) and neither is precision. He can teleport specific things, large groups and even move different things all across the world at the same time. His teleportation also allows him to enter other dimensions at will. Aside from teleportation, Void's powers increased all of Spartan's physical attributes, making him now strong, fast and durable enough to face beings like Mr. Majestic in all out combat and win. His use of energy has also been affected and increased. Not only are his energy blasts now more powerful, Spartan is able to create energy shields, holograms, and energy constructs formed from pink light, the signature color of Void's powers.

erm. didn't know he was listed in high herald. that . . . doesn't bode well for keeping him i'm afraid . . . 😬

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I've seen him in, and it's not like teleportation is a > mid-herald feat, nor is beating Apollo (which is in the wiki bio but may be a lie...I've never even heard of it, which raises my eyebrow because of how thorough I've tried to be with Authority appearances, even in other books).
Are you talking about this:
"However, he had been shown to stalemate Mister Majestic in a strength match even before the upgrade. He also had a crossover with Apollo where he knocked him out in 4 punches before his first upgrade."

Because if you are... I wrote that like four months ago (just because someone was using a wiki bio for him once), and I guess no one edited it since... 😂

😕

so . . . i still have no real idea what he's capable of. 😬

and if he's in the high herald tier . . . gonna have to vote no on spartan for now. based on the few descriptions i've read of him i'm gonna have to vote no for now.

and one more time . . .

"teh List":

Loki: (power exceeds cap) martian, trick, akuki, goob, bran, bats
Firestorm: (power level exceeds cap) trick, akuki, martian, bran, bats
Sersi: (power exceeds cap) bran
Jefferies/Box: (exceeds killability cap) leo, trick, martian
Aquarian: (loophole-power nullification) trick, akuki, dl, martian, goob, bran
Meggan: (power exceeds cap) trick
Nova: (power exceeds cap) goob
Ronan: (power exceeds cap) martian, trick
Metron: (power exceeds cap) Smurph, Bran, leo, bats, akuki, marty
Makkari: (above speed cap) bats
Spartan 3.0: (above power cap) leo, akuki, smurph (i think)

firelord was banned.

7 votes needed to ban.

still looking for input on alex luthor . . .

and loki, aquarian have 5 votes and metron has 6 votes.

Alexander Luthor got killed by Joker...

dr strange was ko'd by nebula's raygun. 😐

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Are you talking about this:
"However, he had been shown to stalemate Mister Majestic in a strength match even before the upgrade. He also had a crossover with Apollo where he knocked him out in 4 punches before his first upgrade."

Because if you are... I wrote that like four months ago (just because someone was using a wiki bio for him once), and I guess no one edited it since... 😂

Had me worried there for a second.

😒

Originally posted by Newjak
A clarification on BFR Rules:

BFR is allowed, with certain exceptions. You cannot physically punch an opponent out of the battlefield... or any other similar method. Act as if there's a giant impenetrable forcefield around the field. Teleportation or dimensional BFR is allowed, but you can't travel with them... Nightcrawler's teleporting an opponent out of the battlefield would be considered self-BFR, for instance

So could Spartan just BFR us all by looking at us?

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
So could Spartan just BFR us all by looking at us?

yes. or just teleport bits and pieces of each of us. 😐

oh, and bump. 🙂

up-to-date teams:

Blair

Single Pick1- Wundarr the Aquarian
Amalgam1- Madison Jeffries (with Box)/Professor Ivo
Amalgam2- Element Lad/Brainiac5
Single Pick2-Spartan w/Void

Goober

Single Pick1- Absorbing Man
Amalgam1-He-Man/Skeletor
Amalgam2-Monica Rambeau (Photon)/Warrior
Single Pick2-Matrix Supergirl

Smurph

Single Pick1- Black Bolt
Amalgam1- Reed Richards/Sage
Amalgam2-Firestorm (Ronnie)/Meggan
Single Pick2-Animal Man

Charlotte

Single Pick1- X-Man
Amalgam1- Engineer II/Brainiac8
Amalgam2-Yellowjacket/Shift
Single Pick2-Jack Hawksmoor

Bran

Single Pick1- Martian Manhunter
Amalgam1- Northstar/Juggernaut
Amalgam2-Cable/Nova
Single Pick2-Apocalypse

Laminator X

Single Pick1- Loki
Amalgam1- Spider-Man (circa Civil War)/Atlas
Amalgam2-Cassandra Nova/Cloak
Single Pick2-Alex Luthor Jr

Trick

Single Pick1- Dr. Arthur Light
Amalgam1- Ikaris/ Atom (Ray Palmer)
Amalagam2-Metamorpho/Mar-vell
Single Pick2-Metron

Devil lance

Single Pick1- Maxima
Amalgam1- Ronan the accuser/Super-skrull
Amalgam2-Captain Comet (current)/Krypto
Single Pick2-Magneto

Akuki

Single Pick1- Dr. Doom
Amalgam1- Nova (Frankie Raye)/Supergirl
Amalgam2-Witchfire (Demon)/Ultimate Superskrull
Single Pick2-Spawn (1st Age)

Pr1983

Single Pick1- Firestorm (current)
Amalgam1- Red Tornado (JLA #12)/Steven Lang (Phalanx Infected)
Amalgam2-Wonderwoman/Manchester Black
Single Pick2-Makkari

Martian

Single Pick1- Nightshade
Amalgam1- Mr Terrific 2/Sand
Amalagam2-Forerunner/Supernova
Single Pick2- Malefic

Leo

Single Pick1- Sersi
Amalgam1- Forge/Jay Garrick
Amalagam2-Savitar/Vulcan
Single Pick2-Ult. Reed Richards