Originally posted by Ha-Son
My Vote: ZeitgeistRead TS' plan and went ha-son
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No votes for the next hour and a half at least, save for Tournament Participant King Kandy's vote (which is on freeze atm) but will go into effect in an hour and a half (the 12 hour mark). After that point, anyone who qualifies to vote, can vote.
EDIT: Also, can you be a little more clear when you vote? I am not sure what those faces mean at all. Just a sentence or two explaining why you the voted the way you did should be sufficient.
Originally posted by Evangel94If you're going to narrow down the time so much, can people vote after the thread is unpinned?
No votes for the next hour and a half at least, save for Tournament Participant King Kandy's vote (which is on freeze atm) but will go into effect in an hour and a half (the 12 hour mark). After that point, anyone who qualifies to vote, can vote.EDIT: Also, can you be a little more clear when you vote? I am not sure what those faces mean at all. Just a sentence or two explaining why you the voted the way you did should be sufficient.
Seems like 12 hours is kind of an unfair expectation, if we have to vote before the match is done... many people would be sleeping in that time.
Originally posted by Soljer
It hasn't been twelve hours yet.Wait another hour and a half, and then repost.
Originally posted by Evangel94
No votes for the next hour and a half at least, save for Tournament Participant King Kandy's vote (which is on freeze atm) but will go into effect in an hour and a half (the 12 hour mark). After that point, anyone who qualifies to vote, can vote.EDIT: Also, can you be a little more clear when you vote? I am not sure what those faces mean at all. Just a sentence or two explaining why you the voted the way you did should be sufficient.
Deadman is a spirit and is never solid? Then why would he have to go intangible... He would always be intangible... doesn't make sense.
There are molecules to his non-astral form right? It's not as if Doom hasn't delt with that before.
Did you buy mind control? Because I don't think you did... So SK isn't possessing anyone. 😛
And you acting like doominator's bots are going to walk up to your guys and grab their shirts and say "stop right there"! lol. The Combat bots are frickin' walking, flying Doom's with arsinal up the kazzo. It's going to be like your favorite war movie missiles, bombs, lasers, concussive blasts all being shot by them at their desired targets from a mile out and a continued assault all the way in. You should really look at their specs and abilities before talking blindly about what they can and can't do. You group most of your group will be dead or unconncious before the bots actually get there within arms reach.
Prove that Doominator's mystical armor with there auto sheilds up can't take the fast motion... other than just saying it can't.
All character's have "FULL" knowledge and the use of their abilities without hessitaion with an Amalgam thats the beauty of an Amalgam. Doom knows and does it so Gladiator knows and does something... It's just that easy. Doominator is fully aware of his speed at all times and can prep at those high rate of speed without "ANY" issues what so ever.
Doom semi-regularlly meets and talks and deals with the 3 and Mephesto and many other "dark Arts" demons on a regular basis thats part of what he does. And whatever "deal" Doominator has made with the 3 and why they decided to make that deal is up to them and Doominator and the 3 decided to allow him their powers. It's part of a sorcerers gig to call upon certain entities and have them help them with whatever. There called spells. Doominator can call upon them at anytime, and the powers will come to help them in their quest.
Have you ever read a book with Dr. Doom in it before...? 🤣
That's exactly what Doom does... He using everthing within his vast powers to "WIN" Tech, Sorcery, bots everything all at once... That's his normal mode of operation. And you can't determine how my characters going to fight his fight... I do. And thats how he's going to fight it. Because thats how he does things bots, tech, sorcery all at once it's all at his beckon call at all times.
You're over matched. And out gunned.
Show on panel how your mathematical equation is going to attack me please.
Ok so we get a classical Super villain rant, that didn’t really do anything with his massive prep or exploit character weakness. So I take it, he simply thinks he will plow his way through.
On the other hand Zeitgeist, takes an easy approach and uses the most basic attacks in hopes of submitting GladiaterDoom. However I am have a hard time beliving body possession or mathematical mind tempering will be effective.
My vote goes to Tony Stark. I want to see these deadly mathematical equations in action, and not what some bio describes it as. And I seriously doubt, body swap will be as easy as SmurphSmash wants it to be. This is only because, their has bin cases where characters have properly resisted Deadman’s body swap, and Doom happens to have shown a variation of the same ability.
You are also forgeting about the terrain and the 4.5 plus magnitude earthquakes and fog and buildings falling and the ground opening up... most of your characters can't fly and it is very likely that with all of the destruction my bots are creating in route to your peeps that the ones that can't will get caught up the all of that mothernature stuff in addition to the colateral damage I'm causing.
And BTW your characters are about to be bound by "The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak" and they won't be able to move at all. And then will be bombarded by my bots and then by Doominators HV and mystical and concussive blast too.
Doom most of the times uses other means of engagement i.e. others, Doombots, other types of robots, Mystical beings...etc. to fight for him and only truly gets his personal hands dirty when something absolutely needs to be done and or finished.
The Doominator will fly over the area that your characters are located from 5 miles above them and use a swath of HV (hotter than the core of the sun) repeatedly throughout the area, he has his bots stay their ground until he is finished with his HV swathing.
And then he commands them to commence firing and continue to unload their weaponry at their before designated characters. For any target that has been KO'd or killed those bots will be told to adjust their targeting to another party.
For any character that has been killed the bots will place a necklace around their necks (which they have all been fitted with a necklace hidden in a compartment in their armor). when the necklaces have been placed they will be again directed towards another target by Doominator.
"The Bands of Cyttorak" are coming soon to engulf and subdue any all of your characters that have not been killed and or KO'd so for from our assaults.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
okay Stark can't really use anythiing he says jes going to useCrimson Bans really stark? come on
and while S smurph does not have lots of scans or proof for that matter his stategy seems much more sturdy and even marginally likely to work.
So i'm voting S Smurph
Are "The Crimson Bands" not at Doom's disposal at anytime...?
Are they not virtually unbreakable (Enraged HULK and Namor excluded crappy writing IMO) Are they not able to subdue any and all that the caster is wanting to be subdued?
The answer is an unequivocal "YES they are" to all of those questions.
Doom has used them on numerous occasions with success to do such that.
What strategy may I ask is Z trying to use again...? I see none.
And I specifically see none continuing to happen with The Doominators onslaught of destruction.
Let's again not forget about the terrain that he has not nor cannot do anything about with those who can't fly.
I think I'm going to have to vote for Tony Stark here. Given Dr. Doom's history of resistance to mind affects, and the fact that Dkrtzy has never appeared on panel which would show or explain the extent of his power, I simply don't think that the mind wipe strategy is as viable as Smurph suggests. Given the strength of his amalgam and doom's mystical skill it does appear as if it will be possible for TS to at least eventually take down Smurph.
Neither contestant has provided effective evidence for anything they are saying they can do.
TONY's initial claims are extremely outlandish and everything else seems to be built upon those claims. The idea that Gladiator would become PCSuperman with Doom's ego has no rational basis. No examples of Doom's tech are given, simply abstract allusions to his intelligence.
Smurph's team has failed to prove they can do much of anything to harm the Doominsator. The tactic of "outliving everyone" needs development.
Nonetheless because Smurph's claims seem to have basic merit and the ability to damage the mind of person who's power is based on confidence is devestating.
Vote: Smurph
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Gotta vote for Smurph (I have refused to acknowledge beyond this post his other name).Almost all of his characters are intangible, he has a freaking math formula that equates to willpower, and can take Tony Stark out. Vote Smurph
So why is this tournament any diferent than these forums normally...
SENTRY stalemated Galactus = Mathematic equation erasing minds
Neither one has been seen on panel, so why is one now canon and valid while the other one is not. Normally it's hyperbole. Guess there both canon now.
Please answer.
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Neither contestant has provided effective evidence for anything they are saying they can do.TONY's initial claims are extremely outlandish and everything else seems to be built upon those claims. The idea that Gladiator would become PCSuperman with Doom's ego has no rational basis. No examples of Doom's tech are given, simply abstract allusions to his intelligence.
Smurph's team has failed to prove they can do much of anything to harm the Doominsator. The tactic of "outliving everyone" needs development.
Nonetheless because Smurph's claims seem to have basic merit and the ability to damage the mind of person who's power is based on confidence is devestating.
Vote: Smurph
What claims are outlandish... The use of the 3...? Anything that The Doominator has done so far in this match he hasn't need the extra power to achieve. He can and has called upon "The Bands of Cyttorak", made bots, special necklaces, molecule scrambler, TP enhancements to his armor...etc...etc.
He hasn't needed to call upon the 3's extra power against this team nor will he have to, they truly have nothing going on that the 3's extra powers will be needed.
Are you forgetting Gladiators Supreme confidence HV (Hotter than the sun's core normally) Which of his character's that aren't KO'd or killed from the bots massive attacks along with the 4.9 mag earthquakes swallowing, dropping buildings and debris upon them, are surviving even 1 second of a Doominator's HV?
I think people need to look beyond one problem which they think there might be holes to.
Drtzky, equates to willpowerl. And even if he can't erase minds? He's a freaking math equation. That Doom, not only can't affect, but can't see or feel either. He could just outlive his opponent.
And, again, in his bio, it says that he easily enters minds and erases them. Even if he can't to that? He still has the GL Power.
Stark still hasn't proposed a plausible way to deal with any of my intangible characters.
He can't even see, hear or feel Doorman.... and hasn't addressed this.
Nor can he see, hear or feel Shadow King, but he is somehow going to solidify an non-existant body?
And Deadman doesn't have a body, but he's going to be turned solid too? Even when he didn't equip the Doombots to be able to detect an invisible, intangible Mystique, much less freaking Deadman.
He hasn't even given a way to put down Mr. Immortal for the count. And, seeing as he didn't buy BFR, and it's not in character for Doominator to crush him with anything when he could do the work himself, this still needs to be addressed.
And even if none of my attack strategies did work?
He can't touch me. I have at least four people on my team who are immortal, who he can't touch, and many more who are intangible.
His armor was destroyed by going beyond lightspeed, and then definitely by the air resistance from moving 10 Billion x Lightspeed
And, with all that speed, if he ever moves through Loa, he's dead.
Otherwise, Drtzky, Shadow King and Deadman cal all end this match early along with her.