Originally posted by xmarksthespotOuch!
Maybe you lost him when you had mechanical robots attack the Shadow King, but probably before. peaches
Yea Smurphs tactics just seemed more viable IMO as well.
Don't know if that matters much or not but I just got home form work and had some time to kill while I wait to get tired enough to actually fall asleep.
I don't believe a thing Tony Stark said... except that he can summon the bands. He also basically made his prep post halfway through the debate. It's like he wrote down everything he could think of without putting any thought behind it. Although highly entertaining... his argument makes no sense.
No scans.
Smurph took the simple lazy root, and didn't look like he spent any time at all caring about the debate even. And "Outliving my opponent" solidified that... Although his plan was much easier to understand than Tony's jumbled mess, and it seems like it would work out well actually.
No scans.
My vote: Tony Stark 131
I kid, I kid... Smurph gets my vote.
PS: Smurph's new name sucks.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
I think people need to look beyond one problem which they think there might be holes to.Drtzky, equates to willpowerl. And even if he can't erase minds? He's a freaking math equation. That Doom, not only can't affect, but can't see or feel either. He could just outlive his opponent.
And, again, in his bio, it says that he easily enters minds and erases them. Even if he can't to that? He still has the GL Power.
Stark still hasn't proposed a plausible way to deal with any of my intangible characters.
He can't even see, hear or feel Doorman.... and hasn't addressed this.
Nor can he see, hear or feel Shadow King, but he is somehow going to solidify an non-existant body?
And Deadman doesn't have a body, but he's going to be turned solid too? Even when he didn't equip the Doombots to be able to detect an invisible, intangible Mystique, much less freaking Deadman.
He hasn't even given a way to put down Mr. Immortal for the count. And, seeing as he didn't buy BFR, and it's not in character for Doominator to crush him with anything when he could do the work himself, this still needs to be addressed.
And even if none of my attack strategies did work?
He can't touch me. I have at least four people on my team who are immortal, who he can't touch, and many more who are intangible.
His armor was destroyed by going beyond lightspeed, and then definitely by the air resistance from moving 10 Billion x Lightspeed
And, with all that speed, if he ever moves through Loa, he's dead.
Otherwise, Drtzky, Shadow King and Deadman cal all end this match early along with her.
Ummmm... Yeah... remember when I said "He makes 10 of each of the bots heads (Combat and Warrior). They create themselves and then help Doominator out with his continued Prep. Next Doominator moves to creating a device that emits a signal that breaks up and solidifies the molecules of both Shadow King's and Deadman's bodies so they are unable to go intangible (Deadman) or into astral form (Shadow King). And Doominator then installs it into the interior of his suit".
And as far as your math problem you are still going with the Chewbacca's in the room theory with it. It's never been seen to do "anything" at all on panel. So it's really a galactic (urban) legend, that you continuing to run with.
What are you and your non-flyers doing about the terrain/the bots/Doominator's HV attacks Z?
And again if you actually looked at the my post and it's links you would then see that the Warrior bots are equipped for just that and are targeted specifically at those characters.
Voting for Smurph
Stark, you can't wait 2 pages into the match, see what your opponent is doing, THEN say what you're doing in prep. It's clearly an unfair advantage, and destroys the meaning of prep time and writeups.
The only person who could conceivably do that is me, not because of any inherent right to do so, but because I bought spying which allows my characters to see what the other team is planning. Since I won't know what that is until I see the writeup, I can respond with prep stuff after the initial writeup.
Because you're essentially doing what only a "Spying" person should do, but you never paid for it.
Fails on all counts, despite the amusing writeup that amounted to little more than a maniacal "BWAHAHA!"
Clearly not the most well thought-out of matches, but Smurph at least had a skeleton plan at the onset, then extrapolated on it as it went along.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Voting for SmurphStark, you can't wait 2 pages into the match, see what your opponent is doing, THEN say what you're doing in prep. It's clearly an unfair advantage, and destroys the meaning of prep time and writeups.
The only person who could conceivably do that is me, not because of any inherent right to do so, but because I bought spying which allows my characters to see what the other team is planning. Since I won't know what that is until I see the writeup, I can respond with prep stuff after the initial writeup.
Because you're essentially doing what only a "Spying" person should do, but you never paid for it.
Fails on all counts, despite the amusing writeup that amounted to little more than a maniacal "BWAHAHA!"
Clearly not the most well thought-out of matches, but Smurph at least had a skeleton plan at the onset, then extrapolated on it as it went along.
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Sorry D you have the right to your opinion... But the truth is I could care less what he was planning to to I've got 36.25 Hrs of prep and full knowledge on all strengths and weaknesses. Because I decided to actually take the time to construct some back ground to my character and set things up with that first. Then deal with my family obligations then come on later to do and show my prep. I'm spying...?
What was I spying on this?
Wait, I thought that we just post our write-up ourselves?
Anyways...
My team chills in the first part of the prep. Shadow King will possess Mr. Immortal, and survival instinct is gonna let him back away from the fight.
Loa's gonna go intangible right before the match starts, as is everyone who could go intangible.
Once the match starts, Deadman can possess, or Drtzky can just mess with his head.
Loa can take him out just if he moves through her, or vice versa.
Other than that, we outlive the opponent.
That was really thought out and insightful and truly made my mind up about my strategy. 🙄
Someones always going to post something first and someone second. I did a write up. And said that I would be back to get into it.
Nothing is being said about SK not being able to possess Mr. Immortal (didn't buy mind control).
Non-fliers dealing with the terrain/bots/HV...etc.
Deadman possessing (no mind control)
Loa can't fly... Doominator is 1-5 miles away in the air flying around at speeds that not one of his characters can even see.
A math equation that has that has never done "A" thing on panel and is being taken to be valid.
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The Doominator is now calling upon "The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak" To subdue and restrain all that have not been killed or KO'd. Once the Bands appear on the battlefield none from his team that are to be restrained can break free of them in any manner.
Doominator flies to within 100 yds and gives all that are restrained a full force HV blast surely killing all that weren't dead and for those that cannot die they are still being restrained by the Bands.
Yes, you post writeups yourself, but it doesn't take a tactical genius to see that an advantage is gained when you post what you're doing in prep 10 hours into the match after debating has occurred. Prep time takes place in the writeup before you see your opponents' strategies.
It's illegal, and I feel personally invested in it because you're doing something that I paid 5 points to be able to do, but you're doing it for free.
Niether side bothered to back up their argument with scans. However Smurphs argument was much, much stronger as I'm not convinced by the vast amount of speculation that went on in Stark's prep which also happened to be posted ludicrously 10 hours after the match began. If there's going to be prep then it should posted at the beginning of the match.(Unless the spy on your opponent card is being played) I feel that Stark could have won had he provided evidence through scans especially when he happened to have two incredibly powerful and versatile characters amalgamated into one. A more structured argument, a bit more research into characters feats especially Doom's since I believe there are some obscure pieces of tech in some of the FF back issues that would have swayed me to his side.
Gladiators confidence boost while a good tactic would not put him on Pre-Crisis Superman Levels, it is however believable enough that Glads would be at his best.(The best he's ever been in a comic which is actually pretty impressive). A little re-wording and scans would have helped build a stronger argument.
Anyway my vote goes to Smurph, for having a much more believable and simple strategy.
Stark, quite frankly, has acted like a moron throughout this entire match. He's had physical bots try to attack the intangible, he's never had anything even resembling an answer for RRR, and if he really believes that Gladiator is even fit to tongue-bathe pre-crisis Superman's urinal, then he surely must be as far into the bottle as his namesake.
Smurph, on the other hand, had a simple, straightforward plan that Stark never really put a single hole in. And considering how Stark never had an answer for most of it, I'd say that some of the people on Smurph's team could have solo'd this match.
My vote goes to Smurph.
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What makes this IMO the most powerful being within this entire tournament is, you take all of that and you add it to a character (The Gladiator) and upon them having that "Supreme Confidence" and that "Ego the size of the Universe" they are turned into what most of you commonly refer to as "PC Superman". And we all know and loved "PC Superman". But this model is actually the "NEW" and "IMPROVED" model. This "PC Superman" if you will is now "PC Superman the TechnoSorcerer".
We all know that Gladiator's only real variable is his confidence and even without being truly and entirely confident he could move at FTL speed and could even fly at over 100x Light speed. He's Strength was almost immeasurable which was also even increased more by his Psionic powers, he has hotter than the core of the sun Heat Vision, he has Super Breath capable of producing both monstrously severe hurricane wind like power along, with being able to freeze solid a foe with it in their tracks. He has the Durability to withstand both the physical as well as energy based attacks from Top Tier/Skyfather like persons, he also has the Fighting Skills of a trained and tested Warrior with thousands perhaps millions (Actual age unknown) of years experience. He also because of his Psionic powers is able to sense (Almost Cosmically) things about others and make adjustments to things that others without those unique powers could not (Almost Cosmically), he also has Super hearing and can hear things from several light years away. And as everyone knows the more confident Gladiator becomes the more powerful he becomes, the more resistant and durable he becomes, the faster he becomes, the more everything he becomes.
That is The Gladiator personified."
....................For this paragraph alone, I refuse to give Stark the win, or any kind of credibility. 😐
Vote: SMURF. Zeitgeist is a shitty name. 😛