Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well tonnes is more than a ton, a tonne is 2240 lbs. I figured about 50 or so but I gave some leeway in later posts.
isn't a ton 2204 lbs?
sorry 45 ton was typo...i meant 45 tonne + that is roughly 50 ton tank spiderman woudl have to be able to lift well over 50 ton to do that
Originally posted by ankur29
Average means the numbrr midways the minimum and the maximum
For starters tell me what you are using as minimum strength for logan & creed that lands you at 2 tons and 15/20 tons? remeber that their strength has never been stated by handbooks but left ambiguous.
Honestly... I think my conclusion on those strength ranges came from general perception.
With Creed, he's had feats in the 50 (or 70) ton range, but not been able to press a car off of him, It seems the middle ground between the two would be around 25 tons there.
Wolverine, well as Badabing pointed out, Wolverine has many one handed feats with no effort so it's easier to guestimate a range there, but I think Wolverine can't be much more than the 2 ton range max because he's, quite often been held by other street level characters for a bit.
Again.. what SHOULD I be doing here.. I'm at a loss with your criticisms.
Originally posted by ankur29
so you think handbook have done SM justice by saying he is in 20 ton range after upgrades?
Yes... After upgrades his 20 ton feats would be much more casual/less taxing... Like tossing a jeep to the top floor of a building with one hand at high speeds.
Originally posted by ankur29Under duress? Sure. But it wasn't his standard strength level. 😬
i don't get why your confused about this, i meant he should able to lift within (i wrote over in my post you replied to,but i meant around, sorry) class 25 (10-25 tons) based on feats well before upgrades?
Originally posted by ankur29Again.. what do you think we SHOULD be doing here?
In truth by feats SM was at 20 ton at classical levels if not more when he was being called class 10 , all the upgrades did were improve his powers on paper , i'd assume when his strength was upgraded his true strength would be ~ 40 tons i.e assuming that at teh end of other his original strength doubled
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He was in it for a while and was incapacitated.Spiderman never tries to kill.
He held back because he was fake.
He owned the Xmen 😛 It IS canon. *Shrugs* What about logan being thrown out of a window.
Lol, same old circle. Why am I doing this?
Gotta do somethin in between rank tests. 😎
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was saying I have a lot of in between time.You get that pm?
Also did you like the Wolverine Origins game? I played it yesterday and it was ok for a movie based hack'n slash, not bad.
Yeah, I thought the game was fun, but the gameplay was repetitive.. most of those games are though so it wasn't unexpected.... I've been more into Left4Dead lately. 🙂
Originally posted by jinzinYea it was a hack and slash. My friend was telling me left4dead was great. I am usually on my comp with Duke and BG2, though I have this Crysis demo.
Yeah, I thought the game was fun, but the gameplay was repetitive.. most of those games are though so it wasn't unexpected.... I've been more into Left4Dead lately. 🙂
Originally posted by jinzinWith Creed, he's had feats in the 50 (or 70) ton range, but not been able to press a car off of him, It seems the middle ground between the two would be around 25 tons there.
middle between which two ?
50 and 70? that would be 60 tons
or
not being able to press a car (which could mean creed presses 0lbs, but i assume you mean peak range -800lbs?) and 50-70( i.e. 60 tons average) , how is the midway 25 ton ive got 30 tons from calculations??
Originally posted by jinzin
Again.. what SHOULD I be doing here.. I'm at a loss with your criticisms.
i am just trying to understand how you calculate charecters strength, as handbooks show one thing but feats are riduclously higher
Originally posted by jinzin
Yes... After upgrades his 20 ton feats would be much more casual/less taxing... Like tossing a jeep to the top floor of a building with one hand at high speeds.
but SM has 20 ton feats before all upgrades ,where the bio said 20 tons it should be significantly higher after upgrades
besides i thought u completely diasagreed with handbooks , thats quite unfair , you think logan/creed should be stronger than their handbook figure beacuse of his feats but you think spiderman's upgraded strength figure is a jsutification of his past feats?
Originally posted by jinzin
Under duress? Sure. But it wasn't his standard strength level. 😬
standard strength?do you mean handbook strength? based on handbooks was class 10, but you bascially said you don't care much for handbooks, so can i say 'under duress', sure logan can lift 2 tons but standard strength is 800lbs?
Originally posted by ankur29🤨
middle between which two ?
50 and 70? that would be 60 tons
or
not being able to press a car (which could mean creed presses 0lbs, but i assume you mean peak range -800lbs?) and 50-70( i.e. 60 tons average) , how is the midway 25 ton ive got 30 tons from calculations??
Or 25 if you go from 50... remember YOU'RE the one who thinks it was strictly a 70+ ton feat, not me.
Originally posted by ankur29Yeah, and those were higher calibur strength feats.
but SM has 20 ton feats before all upgrades ,where the bio said 20 tons it should be significantly higher after upgradesbesides i thought u completely diasagreed with handbooks , thats quite unfair , you think logan/creed should be stronger than their handbook figure beacuse of his feats but you think spiderman's upgraded strength figure is a jsutification of his past feats?
Originally posted by ankur29
standard strength?do you mean handbook strength?
Typical performances in comic books, which include the likes of being overpowered by guys like Puma and Scorpion. 😬
Originally posted by ankur29Again, what the HELL are you talking about here? You've equated standard strength levels to handbook strength when I've never said that... Nice little strawman there but that isn't what I was getting at. Characters typically perform within a range of strength and speed. Peter's before upgrades wasn't typically excessive of 20 tons, or 40 tons so no need to make that argument just the same as I wouldn't make an argument for Creed in the 50 ton range.. 😬
based on handbooks was class 10, but you bascially said you don't care much for handbooks, so can i say 'under duress', sure logan can lift 2 tons but standard strength is 800lbs?
I'll ask you one more time.. what SHOULD I be doing in your opinion?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think what Jinzin has said is that he has those feats and they aren't hard to accept being in duress (except the ones he does casually). He is saying all characters can do that and have a range past their "limit", which is my point.
Originally posted by BattlehammerHis best feats were when he was a 10 tonner, and things that weigh more than ten tons he can do pretty easily based on feats. Now really crazy class 70+ feats would take a great deal of effort.
well at least certain characters. Spiderman may be a 10 tonner, but that his normal level of strength however he can push himself beyond this, but it takes a great amount of effort.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
His best feats were when he was a 10 tonner, and things that weigh more than ten tons he can do pretty easily based on feats. Now really crazy class 70+ feats would take a great deal of effort.
does he even have class 70 feat?