Hall of the Honored Fallen

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Herald+ is too powerful to have an amalgam tournament anymore because people would literally put together indestructible abstract-style beings. But I remember mere days after my first tourney drafts were in the books and battles had started, I thought: "Hmmm. Juggs + a telepath (negates the weakness) + a GL (mobility and versatility) = unbeatable." Hell, pick a telepathic resistant like Alan Scott and you could blow the 3rd pick on something else. It's blindingly obvious, but for some reason even THAT probably wouldn't work for god knows why.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I could beat that combo 😉 .

So could I, probably. Like I said, I had the idea 3 years ago.

But you could do a lot worse at that level. And at the time it might've even won a tourney or two, if properly used. I remember someone had him paired with Dr. Fate in that tourney, but he didn't use him too well.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I could beat that combo 😉 .

Actually, just out of curiosity, let's say it was GL Alan Scott (tp resistance), Juggs, and Thor in an amalgamation....wielding a ring in one hand and Mjolnir in the other.

At or below top tier herald, who do you pick to beat him?

I made the 3rd pick Thor, because his magic-block of Juggs was one of the few ways I saw of getting around Juggs' durability.

I'm sure it can be done, I'm just curious to see what goob would do. And you're obviously not required to answer if you don't want...might not want to give away trade secrets. Others can feel free to chime in too.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Herald+ is too powerful to have an amalgam tournament anymore because people would literally put together indestructible abstract-style beings. But I remember mere days after my first tourney drafts were in the books and battles had started, I thought: "Hmmm. Juggs + a telepath (negates the weakness) + a GL (mobility and versatility) = unbeatable." Hell, pick a telepathic resistant like Alan Scott and you could blow the 3rd pick on something else. It's blindingly obvious, but for some reason even THAT probably wouldn't work for god knows why.

NJ/Blair's problem when they had him was that he was separate, so he had mobility and tp protection, but only as long as they could convince judges that their other characters wouldn't be beaten.

Yeah that was problem although we thought we would get around that with prep only to learn like a day before matches started that it would be ten seconds 🙁

And I bet a Herald level Amalgam tourney could be done i nfact it would probably be the tourney I would want most to compete in before my tourney days are done.

Heh. Herald Amalgam. I'll bring back General Kinky....

....and get stomped!!

Kinky was good for his day, but a lot of it was forum lack of knowledge about Apollo, and over-valuing Loki.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Heh. Herald Amalgam. I'll bring back General Kinky....

....and get stomped!!

Kinky was good for his day, but a lot of it was forum lack of knowledge about Apollo, and over-valuing Loki.

Didn't you have Apollo in Zod's armor or something

That was the first tourney I ever saw, and it looked so fun. Just the power level or fact that those are the character's I'm most familiar with but I've just always wanted to compete in the style tourney.

Because I had so many ideas for that tourney and more importantly I just want a chance to use some of my ideas with Juggernaut and see how they would work.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Actually, just out of curiosity, let's say it was GL Alan Scott (tp resistance), Juggs, and Thor in an amalgamation....wielding a ring in one hand and Mjolnir in the other.

At or below top tier herald, who do you pick to beat him?
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hmm

Black Alice.

Originally posted by Newjak
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Didn't you have Apollo in Zod's armor or something

That was the first tourney I ever saw, and it looked so fun. Just the power level or fact that those are the character's I'm most familiar with but I've just always wanted to compete in the style tourney.

Because I had so many ideas for that tourney and more importantly I just want a chance to use some of my ideas with Juggernaut and see how they would work.

Yeah, Zod's armor bathes him in red sun radiation, and Apollo responds to ANY sun radiation, so it was a mobile battery for him, as well as additional armor. Then Loki for versatility.

A great power mesh, and I'm still proud of thinking of it, but Apollo and Zod still don't bring nearly enough to the table to make a go of it at that level. Since it was pre-scans, and Authority knowledge was low, I got fairly far, but I couldn't get past beasts like Majestic and Thor.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
hmm

Black Alice.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
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What? Not my fault you picked all magic characters. Its an art really, finding the flaws in all characters 😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, Zod's armor bathes him in red sun radiation, and Apollo responds to ANY sun radiation, so it was a mobile battery for him, as well as additional armor. Then Loki for versatility.

A great power mesh, and I'm still proud of thinking of it, but Apollo and Zod still don't bring nearly enough to the table to make a go of it at that level. Since it was pre-scans, and Authority knowledge was low, I got fairly far, but I couldn't get past beasts like Majestic and Thor.

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Originally posted by Newjak
And I bet a Herald level Amalgam tourney could be done i nfact it would probably be the tourney I would want most to compete in before my tourney days are done.

No future tourney talk.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
No future tourney talk.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
What? Not my fault you picked all magic characters. Its an art really, finding the flaws in all characters 😛

I suppose we'd have to sub out Alan for Hal or something, and Thor for...someone else of equal quality (editor's note: none exist of such a level!)

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But seriously, what Juggernaut is to newjak, Thor is for me. I considered a few others for the current tourney that brought other advantages to the table (Quasar, Genis, Majestic, etc.) but I couldn't wrench myself away from him. Doctor/Reed/Lex was pretty much always the "base" but it was just a matter of complimenting them.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I suppose we'd have to sub out Alan for Hal or something, and Thor for...someone else of equal quality (editor's note: none exist of such a level!)

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But seriously, what Juggernaut is to newjak, Thor is for me. I considered a few others for the current tourney that brought other advantages to the table (Quasar, Genis, Majestic, etc.) but I couldn't wrench myself away from him. Doctor/Reed/Lex was pretty much always the "base" but it was just a matter of complimenting them.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, Zod's armor bathes him in red sun radiation, and Apollo responds to ANY sun radiation, so it was a mobile battery for him, as well as additional armor. Then Loki for versatility.

A great power mesh, and I'm still proud of thinking of it, but Apollo and Zod still don't bring nearly enough to the table to make a go of it at that level. Since it was pre-scans, and Authority knowledge was low, I got fairly far, but I couldn't get past beasts like Majestic and Thor.

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Mind/ring-Alan
Body-Juggs
Powers/Hammer- Thor

...correct?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Need more details. So you're talking about...

Mind/ring-Alan
Body-Juggs
Powers/Hammer- Thor

...correct?

That's the gist. I switched to Hal and...someone? when Blair found teh magic loophole with Black Alice. But you can stick with Alan and Thor.

Like I said, it can likely be done a variety of ways. I'm just enjoying presenting a little challenge.

I was gonna do best tourney sigs, but there's not too many of them (at least that we have saved in the respect thread) and DC and I are about the only legit sig-makers who've made them for tourneys (Rew too, but he only did 1). It would really just be Rew's sig, and then whichever one is the "best" from DC's and my stuff. Not enough options to make it interesting.

Anyway, I still have a few more ideas for lists before I run out.

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Along those lines, I need some help. "Most Powerful Tourney Character." I'm basing it on "draft" strength, meaning no team meshing or prep time. Also no restrictions on powers, regardless of what they were for the tourney they were drafted in. Just best in 1-v-1 fights. I've compiled a list of picks, but it's hard to pick 3 from them.

Mangog, The Keeper, Earth X Absorbing Man, The Doctor, Classic Strange, Dr. Fate, Despero, AS Superman, Regular Surfer, Thor, Metron, Waverider

Since I'm stipulating "no prep" I feel like Strange and Fate are hurt a bit by this, but they still belong in this company.

Maybe you should do "most powerful for their tourney" (then you wouldn't just be looking at the sub-skyfather tourney, as there could be another team that's more impressive for their "weight class"😉

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Maybe you should do "most powerful for their tourney" (then you wouldn't just be looking at the sub-skyfather tourney, as there could be another team that's more impressive for their "weight class"😉

A few of those are from Evangel's, but I was also planning on making a similar list that included amalgams to increase diversity.

Your idea works too. We could honestly break them all into separate lists, since this criteria is a lot different than yours would be.