Hall of the Honored Fallen

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
A few of those are from Evangel's, but I was also planning on making a similar list that included amalgams to increase diversity.

Your idea works too. We could honestly break them all into separate lists, since this criteria is a lot different than yours would be.

Yeah, there's always the idea of different lists for set of tourneys/weight class... but number 1 would usually, or quite often be the winners of the tourney that took place in that weight class, except for certain upsets (Darth/Bran, perhaps would be an example).

If that's what you meant.

I'll break it into multiple lists to accomodate your idea, which is probably better than this one. But let's finish with this one first.

Anyway, re-posting the current list:

Who's the most powerful (or 3 most) in a 1-on-1 scenario with no power restrictions and no prep (but enough time to avoid speedblitzes for the non-speedster characters)...
Mangog, The Keeper, Earth X Absorbing Man, The Doctor, Classic Strange, Dr. Fate, Despero, AS Superman, Regular Surfer, Thor, Metron, Waverider(?)

Other nominations are welcome as well, but there's not many more that would qualify.

Keeper IMO

I'd probably agree. I made an initial list of 3-2-1 being Mangog, EX Absorbing Man, and Keeper respectively.

But then I thought about Strange and The Doctor and relented from posting it because I couldn't decide.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
That's the gist. I switched to Hal and...someone? when Blair found teh magic loophole with Black Alice. But you can stick with Alan and Thor.

Like I said, it can likely be done a variety of ways. I'm just enjoying presenting a little challenge.


How about...

Mind- Blue Energy Supes
Powers- Absorbing Man
Body/Eqipment- He-Man

Reasoning-

He-Man can match Juggernaut strait up strength wise and with Absorbing Man's mans powers combined with his Power Vest he'll also be
on par durability wise. He-Man's Power Sword should be more than sufficient to bypass Jugg's defenses just as Shatterstar's were, the difference is that He-Man is likely strong enough to remove Jugg's head and helmet at the same time.

Not bad. Lulz at He-Man. He was actually picked in the Under Thanos tourney, but then whoever had him was a no-show.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Not bad. Lulz at He-Man. He was actually picked in the Under Thanos tourney, but then whoever had him was a no-show.

Thanks. And it was Kandy.

I still think anyone with a working knowledge of the characters would be able to make a go of it with my hypothetical amalgam. Thor's energy soak would be a detriment to Supes and he's dealt with AM more than once before. And Blue Supes energy trick in a GL's head to make him lose his concentration wouldn't work due to Juggs' field and helmet (unless breached, of course) so Alan would be very much in play. Still, it would be a good match.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I still think anyone with a working knowledge of the characters would be able to make a go of it with my hypothetical amalgam. Thor's energy soak would be a detriment to Supes and he's dealt with AM more than once before. And Blue Supes energy trick in a GL's head to make him lose his concentration wouldn't work due to Juggs' field and helmet (unless breached, of course) so Alan would be very much in play. Still, it would be a good match.

Oh it would definitely be a fight, I wasn't trying to say that my guy would blow your guy out of the water or anything, just that he's got the tools to do so.

Anyway my guy may have Supes energy manipulation powers, but he's still got He-Man's body so Thor's absorption wouldn't be that much of a threat offensively. Since Alan and Supes's minds won't be using the hammer or sword with the same proficiency as their true owners, the slight advantage the hammer has over the sword will be rendered nol, making the Sword the more dangerous weapon of the two. Blue might now be able to use his disruption technique until the Helmet's gone but he actually won't have too because all three of my component characters have some kick ass energy absorption abilities to their credit. And with my characters FAR superior speed it's not going to be all that difficult to get the helmet off anyway...

Heh. Too bad this isn't for real. But I'll save my strength for our upcoming match...which got moved to this Friday, btw.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Heh. Too bad this isn't for real. But I'll save my strength for our upcoming match...which got moved to this Friday, btw.

Any last words 😈 ...

Not really of course because it's double elimination and we're both undefeated at this stage, but I think the overall point is clear... 😛

I was considering making my amalgam Classic Juggernaut/Strange/Flash but there was some stuff I wanted to buy, and another option was Strange/Sentry. But I ultimately settled on my current amalgam.

Strange + anything is a good start. Can't really mess that up.

I'll be finalizing the "most powerful" list soon from the list I posted. Any further input?

Yeah, my thought process was like this:

Juggernaut+Strange: Strength with no speed, similar to what Stacks did.

Juggernaut+Strange+Flash: Strength, speed, and magic, but no points left to buy prep or special abilities.

Juggernaut+Flash: What I eventually settled on. You don't need durability if the enemy can't hit you, after all.

Juggernaut+Sentry: Briefly I considered Sentry since he's very strong, very fast plus some decent energy powers and good TP. But he wasn't specialized enough to really take advantage of Strange imo.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'll break it into multiple lists to accomodate your idea, which is probably better than this one. But let's finish with this one first.

Anyway, re-posting the current list:

Who's the most powerful (or 3 most) in a 1-on-1 scenario with no power restrictions and no prep (but enough time to avoid speedblitzes for the non-speedster characters)...
Mangog, The Keeper, Earth X Absorbing Man, The Doctor, Classic Strange, Dr. Fate, Despero, AS Superman, Regular Surfer, Thor, Metron, Waverider(?)

Other nominations are welcome as well, but there's not many more that would qualify.

Gotta be Keeper or one of the Doctors.

Agreed.

The Lists: Entry #9

Most Powerful Character

This is determined by 1-v-1 strength, and does not take into account tourney limitations or power meshes that the characters were a part of.

Honorable Mention: Despero

3 - The Doctor
Why: Almost anything with a mere thought? 'nuf said. He had some restrictions for the tourney he was drafted in, but sans limitations he's among the best.

2 - Classic Strange
Why: Arguably better feats than Odin when you take them in their entirety. A spell for any situation, and plenty of raw power.

1 - The Keeper
Why: A shared continuity with 616 Surfer means most of regular Surfer's feats are valid. That + Quantum Bands and thousands of years of experience, and you have the most powerful and versatile character ever in a tournament.

Also, looking for a good "Most Powerful Relative to Their Tourney" entry. I have a couple, but need a good 3rd. Who was the best for the power level they were at in a given tourney?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Agreed.

[b]The Lists: Entry #9

Most Powerful Character

This is determined by 1-v-1 strength, and does not take into account tourney limitations or power meshes that the characters were a part of.

Honorable Mention: Despero

3 - The Doctor
Why: Almost anything with a mere thought? 'nuf said. He had some restrictions for the tourney he was drafted in, but sans limitations he's among the best.

2 - Classic Strange
Why: Arguably better feats than Odin when you take them in their entirety. A spell for any situation, and plenty of raw power.

1 - The Keeper
Why: A shared continuity with 616 Surfer means most of regular Surfer's feats are valid. That + Quantum Bands and thousands of years of experience, and you have the most powerful and versatile character ever in a tournament. [/B]


Does Evangel drafting Darkseid and Galactus in her casual matches count?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Also, looking for a good "Most Powerful Relative to Their Tourney" entry. I have a couple, but need a good 3rd. Who was the best for the power level they were at in a given tourney?

Blink I think needs to be on there.

The Keeper was bar none the strongest character in his tourney and that says a lot for an Under-Thanos level tourney.

I'm not sure on a third.

Also you should do the most powerful Amalgamation character for their respective tournies.

In which case I would nominate these:

Even though I hate to say it

Khell's Street Tourney guy should have wiped the floor with everyone in the tourney. Seeing as he had Blink, and Grail.

Flash Thordon had the best of every facet of that tourney. Raw power, speed, and versatility all top notch.

As for a third I don't know.

Originally posted by Newjak
Blink I think needs to be on there.

The Keeper was bar none the strongest character in his tourney and that says a lot for an Under-Thanos level tourney.

I'm not sure on a third.

Also you should do the most powerful Amalgamation character for their respective tournies.

In which case I would nominate these:

Even though I hate to say it

Khell's Street Tourney guy should have wiped the floor with everyone in the tourney. Seeing as he had Blink, and Grail.

Flash Thordon had the best of every facet of that tourney. Raw power, speed, and versatility all top notch.

As for a third I don't know.

Good idea. I was planning on doing something like that soon, but hadn't given it much thought. And those are solid nominations.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Does Evangel drafting Darkseid and Galactus in her casual matches count?

Nah. It would be kind of a cheap loophole to get them in, since they'd obviously have to be #1-2