Originally posted by h1a8
What are you guys talking about?
This thread is ambiguous. What defines someone to be more powerful than another? Is it the amount of energy they possess or the amount they can potentially hold?
It isn't ambiguous.
Power is work per unit time.
Who can perform the most work in the shortest time?
The Surfer.
Both Thor and Superman two lack the overall resourcefulness Surfer posesses to do things like...
a. Channel and absorb energies to amp existing abilities far beyond normal levels. Superman can do this with solar energy from earth's sun though.
b. Similar to Galactus...Surfer can extend and maintain any abilities for as long as there is cosmic available. Thor and Superman will tap out before Surfer who is capable of self sustenance any form of energy within the cosmos.
c. Cosmic awareness and Manipulation Matter. thats just plain powerful in itself. Resourcefulness in a nutshell. Surfer can and has also directly fed off of the energies of opponents.
I think h1a8 is trying to find a reason to bring superman as number 1 in this thread, thats why he keeps asking off the wall questions.
Overall power
1st: Thor
2nd: Surfer
3rd: Superman
Thor and surfer is equals in overall power but I give a slight nod to thor. surfer and thor>>>>>>>>>Superman in power and versatility. The only output of power that superman possess is heat vision and ice breathe whereas surfer and thor possess so much more and basically have done so much in comics that its ridiculous.
Thor can effect Celestials with his blows (all out, but still)... and let's not forget about the Godblast...
He also took down Glads easily after he got serious, with basic blows...
The Durok blast as well... Even Perrikus was getting beatdowns from Thor. Storm...
In my mind, he is clearly more powerful than the other two... not to say he'd win a fight... but still...
Originally posted by h1a8The most powerful means the one with the highest power average. The power average has two parts: how much energy it would take to destroy the character in a single blast; and: how much energy the character could release in a single blast of destruction.
What defines someone to be more powerful than another?
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Originally posted by Unnatural-POWERI'm inclined to agree...
Based on raw power and not who i think would win in a fight...
I would probably choose Thor.
Well technically if we were to examine each character's history and rate all there incarnations Supes would be the most powerful IMO. Consider his showings in PC era, AS Supes, Supes 1M, SMP 1M, SM Blue and even in his current era. Thor matches very closly especially with his RKT incarnation, so I'd say it's between the both of them.