The Incredible Hulk

Started by WrathfulDwarf46 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Unlike other forms of "comics", I think American comics try to do better at giving believable and logical explanations for things/powers.

A kid told me he absorbs the air around him and quickly recombines the molecules to his use. That would be great in all if air had a lot of carbon in it, but it doesn't. The ground is out of the question because it is never shown that the ground is absorbed into his feet.

That sounds possible....comic book physics are very much different than our world's physics.

There is a comic book physics thread in the comic book. Search for it. You'll find interesting stuff regarding characters and their abilities.

It's left as "unknown" by the creators, to use your imagination. Could be an extremely efficient form of rapid cell splitting, where "X" amount of energy used produces "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" of output/mass.

Then again, it's a comic book.

they showed previews for the movie when I saw IRONMAN,and from what I have seen of the previews,I am excited about the next movie.The previews of the first hulk movie did not get me excited and I hated that movie.Also before I saw BATMAN BEGINS AND IRONMAN,I was excited about those two films because it looked like from the previews,they were going to be great movies.So thats a good sign so far is that RECENT history suggests this one will be a good film as well. 💃

Originally posted by dadudemon
Unlike other forms of "comics", I think American comics try to do better at giving believable and logical explanations for things/powers.

A kid told me he absorbs the air around him and quickly recombines the molecules to his use. That would be great in all if air had a lot of carbon in it, but it doesn't. The ground is out of the question because it is never shown that the ground is absorbed into his feet.

It's a comic about a man who turns into a big, green creature with limitless strength. If you have nothing better to do than moan about the science, stop reading the comics.

Why can a man have the abilities of a spider? Water? Fly in a suit of metal? Control magnetics fields? Fire beams from his eyes?

It's a comic book.

-AC

I think the best answer might just be "BECAUSE, now STFU", in this case.

Despite been a comic book movie there has to be a sense of reality in it. Meaning some science has to be present. You can't have a movie about Batman pulling a rescue by lifting an entire locomotive with his bare hands. There is gotta be a certain amount of logic apply.

Can't really get away with it's only a comic book movie.

But I think a movie like Sin City might break the rule as long as it keeps the story going and throws away the logic. As long as the story pays off.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Despite been a comic book movie there has to be a sense of reality in it. Meaning some science has to be present. You can't have a movie about Batman pulling a rescue by lifting an entire locomotive with his bare hands. There is gotta be a certain amount of logic apply.

Because those aren't within Batman's powers.

There's a difference between science being present within the realms of a comic book, and anal people wanting to pick comic books (ANY OF THEM) apart because it doesn't coincide with science.

Comic books are intended as a complete break from reality, so science, if anything, is a relevant guest. Not a demanding live-in. The second we start bitching about comics being scientifically unrealistic is the time we should stop reading them (We, for effect, since I'm not stupid enough to do that).

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Can't really get away with it's only a comic book movie.

You can, actually. That's the point of comics.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
But I think a movie like Sin City might break the rule as long as it keeps the story going and throws away the logic. As long as the story pays off.

Where's the logic in Superman being able to fly all of a sudden?

Let's pick on D.C.'s champion while we're at it. It doesn't matter, does it? Because in doing so, they gave the world a beloved, legendary character much greater than a man who could merely jump. In time, people overlooked it, because they were...shock horror, enjoying themselves.

-AC

Whatever you say...

So, everyone else in the thread; The Hulk.

He's green and that. Apparantly his name is Bruce, once considered a homosexual name, true story.

Hands up if you'd prefer Lou Ferrigno to play Hulk. You know, the realistic sized man they cast in the TV series. I'd love it, personally. He'd look a bit more realistic than the very unscientific Hulk we know now, though I can't say I'd find Hulk's trademark powers believable in a man who looks like he could lift, at best, a shopping cart.

-AC

Not interested in a bit of a discussion with you. If I gave you that impression...sorry I wasn't. I've given you enough of my time already. You don't need anymore.

Thank you.

Shh.

So, to people who enjoy the character:

If not Abomination, what villain would you have?

-AC

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Despite been a comic book movie there has to be a sense of reality in it. Meaning some science has to be present. You can't have a movie about Batman pulling a rescue by lifting an entire locomotive with his bare hands. There is gotta be a certain amount of logic apply.

Can't really get away with it's only a comic book movie.

But I think a movie like Sin City might break the rule as long as it keeps the story going and throws away the logic. As long as the story pays off.

Odd things to say... do tell me, how is it logical that Batman, can do all the things he does? Granted, there is the worlds 'best at anything' out there, but it isn't compressed into just one person.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Shh.

So, to people who enjoy the character:

If not Abomination, what villain would you have?

-AC

The Leader would be decent, as you'd have supreme physical stength on one side and supreme mental on the other. As it is though, it's a great start.

It's because he likes Batman, he overlooks it, so overlook his opinion in this matter.

I think so, to the second remark.

If it works out, it's smart, because fans get one of his greatest foes. Popcorn-munchers get action, then fans can decide whether or not to go see more.

-AC

Originally posted by Robtard
Odd things to say... do tell me, how is it logical that Batman, can do all the things he does? Granted, there is the worlds 'best at anything' out there, but it isn't compressed into just one person.

There are limits on Batman can do. That's pretty obvious...if he could pull all kinds of superhuman feats in the movie then that's just puts him out of character. The only time I could see Batman doing something to what I mention earlier would be like him getting injected with the Venom serum and performing such superhuman capacities. Otherwise the story loses credibility.

You missed what he said.

He said; "Nobody is the world's best at everything.".

Batman is considered peerless in very nearly all his areas of expertise. That's about as illogical as you can get. That doesn't defy science, it defies common sense, which is arguably worse. Superman called him the most dangerous man on Earth because of it.

In the event you ignore me, Robtard can feel free to just paste it as his question.

-AC

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There are limits on Batman can do. That's pretty obvious...if he could pull all kinds of superhuman feats in the movie then that's just puts him out of character. The only time I could see Batman doing something to what I mention earlier would be like him getting injected with the Venom serum and performing such superhuman capacities. Otherwise the story loses credibility.

I'm not talking about doing superhuman feats, like lift a car, or run a mile in 30 seconds.

I'm talking about how he's the best at everything he does, how is that logical?

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not talking about doing superhuman feats, like lift a car, or run a mile in 30 seconds.

I'm talking about how he's the best at everything he does, how is that logical?

In a fictional sense it is logical what Batman can do. He has the attributes of "World's Greatest Detective" as well as "Best Martial artist in the world" However, Batman does have flaws on some of his attributes...why? because he's human that's pretty logical right there. Nothing more. It's logical to say that Batman can perform his feats within character. It's when he steps out of character that it becomes illogical.

In a fictional sense it's ok to be the best athlete, martial artist, detective and one of the best scientists. All despite this never having happened, ever,

In a fictional sense it's not ok for The Hulk to do stuff that he does, despite the fact that his tagline has always been "The Strongest There Is.", and "The Madder He Gets, the Stronger He Gets!". Despite this happening never.

I smell some "I just like Batman more.", but it could be me. It could just be me, and me alone.

-AC

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
In a fictional sense it is logical what Batman can do. He has the attributes of "World's Greatest Detective" as well as "Best Martial artist in the world" However, Batman does have flaws on some of his attributes...why? because he's human that's pretty logical right there. Nothing more. It's logical to say that Batman can perform his feats within character. It's when he steps out of character that it becomes illogical.

Then why in a "fictional sense" is it illogical that a radiated man can transform into a green monster?

Also, I'm fairly certain Batman has more than just those two attributes, he's also a uber-level scientist, engineer, strategist (there are more, I forget).