Lol I can't even get away with listening to my headphones while a plane is landing, and this guy masturbates totally undetected until he shoots in her hair! WTF kind of crap is that? Usually the Flight Attendants are on you asap! "Lean your seat foward" "Buckle your seat belt" "Sir put away your penis" Apparently the last one isn't in their repertoire.
Originally posted by Bardock42First off let's make sure we all realize that the airlines made a mistake here. They are usually much stricter about this kind of thing. Or that's what I gather from this post:
Well, I wouldn't blame her for being attacked, I just find everyone that sues for compensation in the region of 200 000 dollars peculiar unless they have suffered damages around or beyond death.
Originally posted by PezmergaDo you think it's fair that this particular magnitude of carelessness on the part of the airlines should be an extremely profitable fight for the airlines? I'd say to establish a strict atmosphere on such behavior, a fair penalty would just pay off the raw expenses of a flight...no extra profits. That is fair for the airlines and it keeps them ready to crack down on passengers.
Lol I can't even get away with listening to my headphones while a plane is landing, and this guy masturbates totally undetected until he shoots in her hair! WTF kind of crap is that? Usually the Flight Attendants are on you asap! "Lean your seat foward" "Buckle your seat belt" "Sir put away your penis" Apparently the last one isn't in their repertoire.
So what is the net result for each flight? 10 thousand? 20 thousand? Because whatever it is, that's what I would penalize...and you can bet it's more than the financial "damages" received by the lady. As it should be.
And as you already know, it's my opinion that some lawyer said $200,000 to help negotiate a more reasonable fund with the defense.
Originally posted by Quark_666
200,000 dollars isn't much to file a lawsuit for. Lawsuits are almost always reduced as a compromise between the prosecution and the defense...so the lawyer behind the lawsuits always demands a lot more. This one will probably wind up as $15,000 or some ridiculously low number like that.
As for the assailant himself, I'd bet anything ushgarak is absolutely right...it's counted as a criminal offense and the state is going to handle it. Which state I don't know. But the man was no doubt arrested in California so maybe it'll be California.
Originally posted by Quark_666
First off let's make sure we all realize that the airlines made a mistake here. They are usually much stricter about this kind of thing. Or that's what I gather from this post😄o you think it's fair that this particular magnitude of carelessness on the part of the airlines should be an extremely profitable fight for the airlines? I'd say to establish a strict atmosphere on such behavior, a fair penalty would just pay off the raw expenses of a flight...no extra profits. That is fair for the airlines and it keeps them ready to crack down on passengers.So what is the net result for each flight? 10 thousand? 20 thousand? Because whatever it is, that's what I would penalize...and you can bet it's more than the financial "damages" received by the lady. As it should be.
And as you already know, it's my opinion that some lawyer said $200,000 to help negotiate a more reasonable fund with the defense.
As for the assailant himself, I'd bet anything ushgarak is absolutely right...it's counted as a criminal offense and the state is going to handle it. Which state I don't know. But the man was no doubt arrested in California so maybe it'll be California.
I agree with you on this one, I just think it's funny that he wasn't noticed before it actually happened....Actually i can see this leading to people not being able to move seats at all (or at least without a good reason and constant watch if you look like a guy who will masterbate all over someone lol) or something to that nature...Which is dumb.
Originally posted by Pezmerga
I agree with you on this one, I just think it's funny that he wasn't noticed before it actually happened....Actually i can see this leading to people not being able to move seats at all (or at least without a good reason and constant watch if you look like a guy who will masterbate all over someone lol) or something to that nature...Which is dumb.
The guy was observed changing his seat. Once the doors are closed, they typically don't have any issues with people changing seats. Perhaps a guy prefers the ailse to the middle seat he has, prefers to sit next to someone he knows, whatever. (...which does not include masturbating on someone) So if this is a flight from L.A. to Dallas, it's likely around 2 to 3 hours. The fight attendants would have served "light refreshments" and then closer to Dallas they would have come around and picked up the trash as well as made rounds right before the plane landed to check on tray tables and seatbacks as well as picking up any trash that remained. So, the guy had to have been behaving pretty normally for most of the flight, which means that he would have had to have begun behaving abnormally after the crew was strapped in for landing, which would have been after this chick claims she woke up; when the pilot made his announcement. I'm not saying she isn't a victim, or it's her fault. But I am saying it isn't the fault of the flight crew, which means it isn't the fault of the airline.
Originally posted by Devil King
The guy was observed changing his seat. Once the doors are closed, they typically don't have any issues with people changing seats. Perhaps a guy prefers the ailse to the middle seat he has, prefers to sit next to someone he knows, whatever. (...which does not include masturbating on someone) So if this is a flight from L.A. to Dallas, it's likely around 2 to 3 hours. The fight attendants would have served "light refreshments" and then closer to Dallas they would have come around and picked up the trash as well as made rounds right before the plane landed to check on tray tables and seatbacks as well as picking up any trash that remained. So, the guy had to have been behaving pretty normally for most of the flight, which means that he would have had to have begun behaving abnormally after the crew was strapped in for landing, which would have been after this chick claims she woke up; when the pilot made his announcement. I'm not saying she isn't a victim, or it's her fault. But I am saying it isn't the fault of the flight crew, which means it isn't the fault of the airline.
It is the airline's responsibilty to keep us safe. He could have gave her a disease of some sort, so that isn't being kept safe. Now they could technically not be liable for something of that nature, but even if you could prove it isn't their fault it really is pointless. The Airline company will pay her compensation to save face, and that would be the smartest thing to do. We all know she will not end up with 200 grand. I don't know if it is technically fair, but I do know the woman didn't do anything wrong...and it's not like we as a society never sue.
Originally posted by Pezmerga
It is the airline's responsibilty to keep us safe. He could have gave her a disease of some sort, so that isn't being kept safe. Now they could technically not be liable for something of that nature, but even if you could prove it isn't their fault it really is pointless. The Airline company will pay her compensation to save face, and that would be the smartest thing to do. We all know she will not end up with 200 grand. I don't know if it is technically fair, but I do know the woman didn't do anything wrong...and it's not like we as a society never sue.
Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.
The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.
IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not?
Originally posted by dadudemonWell it all amounts to the same thing. If they don't do anything about it the loose business for sure. Be it the government or capitalism, they have to protect their passengers somehow.
Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.
IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Your logic is flawed. There is no way the airline should have to prevent their passengers from getting sick. Sure they shouldn't have an infected SARs passenger...but they can't protect their passengers from getting diseases from other passengers because that would require an invasion of a very private manner.The airline should not be sued...the splooger should.
IF the airline personnel did not respond immediately to her cries/pleas for help, then yes, they should pay up in some way. Do we know if they failed on their response time or not?
I didn't mean they should prevent them from catching something that is unavoidable, but being exposed to sperm is avoidable...the same with being exposed to asbestos or something. Now I know it is a grey area, the flight attendants can't just physically stop the guy and I don't expect them to put themselves in danger, but the airline has to ensure that this doesn't happen somehow. If not for legal reasons than at least for good business practice. It would be foolish for them to just say "not our fault" and do nothing.
And I do agree that the splooger is the real person that should be sued, but it's not like he would be able to pay it off, so what's the point? She is guaranteed money from an airline.It's not right, but it's the way the world works. Surprise!