Originally posted by carver9
noone but he might say superman since he knows next to nothing about hulk.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
How do you assume that I know nothing about WWH because I think Supes will win against him? In that case I can say the same to you for thinking that WWH will defeat Supes. But I feel DS is far superior to Supes. And I think he has more than what it takes to put WWH down.
Im not saying that you dont know hulk to you saying superman would beat him because I also think that superman could get some wins over hulk, just not a majority. The reason that I posted that was because you basically stated that superman is stronger then hulk when there is no on panel proof indicating other wise.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not saying that you dont know hulk to you saying superman would beat him because I also think that superman could get some wins over hulk, just not a majority. The reason that I posted that was because you basically stated that superman is stronger then hulk when there is no on panel proof indicating other wise.
I believe that Superman is stronger when they are at their "base" strength. I know that eventually WWH's strength will surpass Superman's. But it wouldn't be too much for Supes to handle imo. Has WWH defeated someone on Darkseid's level?
I guess the question is this, who did better against HP Doomsday. Superman or Darkseid, I mean which of these two took longer to be overpowered? I am of course speaking of before Superman got suited up with tech.
The answer to this simple question, can and should determine who is more dominant. Superman, or Darkseid.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I guess the question is this, who did better against HP Doomsday. Superman or Darkseid, I mean which of these two took longer to be overpowered? I am of course speaking of before Superman got suited up with tech.The answer to this simple question, can and should determine who is more dominant. Superman, or Darkseid.
That is an example of bad writing on a very good character and pis. Darkseid (the way he was meant to be written) should've not been defeated by Doomsday or Supes.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
That is an example of bad writing on a very good character and pis. Darkseid (the way he was meant to be written) should've not been defeated by Doomsday or Supes.
and this is your opinion because right now its hard to dispute that since he has been losing to both for decades now.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjarHe has been around the block. But he hasnt been physically beating on people. In fact he avoids physical fights if at all possible. He is best when he uses his omega powers but when he is brawling with people.
Darkseid 6/10, at least.He's been around the block a few times, and he knows how to exert himself physically to take down the likes of this Hulk.
Originally posted by fangirl101He is not stronger than WW Hulk. What are some of his lifting feats that make you think this? You can attach any of Hulk's strength feats to WW Hulk. WW Hulk was greater than any previously seen Hulk.
DS. Faster and More durable and Stronger on the onset.
WW Hulk is a lot stronger and more durable than Seid imo.
Originally posted by carver9
Prove that darksied is faster and stronger. Show me darksied lifting something that hulk cant lift.
Faster? He's backhanded Superman when Supes has tried to blitz him. And he's fast enough to not get blitzed when Superman turns on the juice. He's actually blitzed quite a few people, including Supes.
Speed should not be a question.
Lifting feats aren't everything. Darkseid is one of the only people to slug it out with Orion and win.
I've just re-read the WWHulk mini, and Darkseid just doesn't have what it takes to physically put King Hulk down.
King Hulk took thousands of rounds from adamantium bullets that pierced his entire body including his eye (General Ross shot him point blank in the eye). By being hit in the eye the bullet was either lodged into his skull or passed through it.
Darkseid would be killed if his heart were to be removed, again King Hulk was rained upon by adamantium bullets that nearly ripped him to shreds, anyone else including Darkseid would have gone down.
Strength feats go to King Hulk, unless someone has ever seen Darkseid hold a world together by strength alone, King Hulks feat trumps any that Darseid has to offer.
Speed? Surely no one believes Darkseid is a speedster, Sentry is leagues beyond Darkseid in the speed dept, but this did nothing for him while facing off against King Hulk. The Hulk has incredible running speeds, so if Darkseid were to have a foot race against him, it is highly doubtful that he would win.
Flight? Again Sentry can fly, and it is not as if King Hulk or any version of the Hulk has ever been land locked, he can jump to the point of flying, in fact he has overtaken F-16's and Mig-28's while in flight.
Toughness? Zom/Strange tore King Hulks insides out, and this did little to slow Bruce down, in fact he was up and healed three panels later. The Hulk has had the flesh burned from his frame, by Vector, his heart ripped out by Stone, flash fried by the Human Torch and Storm, shot the hell up by bullets that would kill Darkseid.
Darkseid got pummeled by Doomsday and was unable to rise to the occasion, put on the source wall by Superman, stomped by Orion who was one-shotted by Silver Surfer.
A true battle between King Hulk and Darkseid may end the same way it did when Doomsday popped him.
Sometimes it is what it is, Superman did beat him regardless of whether people wanted this to happen or not, it did, and it will likely happen again. PIS is if it only happens once Superman has beaten Darkseid more than once.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWhen has Superman tried to speed blitz Darkseid?
Faster? He's backhanded Superman when Supes has tried to blitz him. And he's fast enough to not get blitzed when Superman turns on the juice. He's actually blitzed quite a few people, including Supes.Speed should not be a question.
Lifting feats aren't everything. Darkseid is one of the only people to slug it out with Orion and win.
When has Darkseid beaten Orion on strength alone? This has nothing to do with his powers.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestDo you have any scans of Darkseid beating someone on pure strength that would make me take not. When his powers fail him he usually loses. He doesnt have any powers here its just a straight up brawl.
I can't see the two wins. Darkseid isn't going to relent. He's not going to be nice about this, like Superman would. He's going to rip Hulk apart until there's nothing left.Not to mention he can fly.........
Took a sunamped bloodlusted supes to equal darkseid last time they fought and seid was at normal levels,if you think hulk is that strong you have problems,he also easily ended the fight with supes when he wanted to,no matter how much you think of hulk saying he can beat a no pis darkseid is just ridiculous.