Darkseid Vs. WW Hulk Fist Fight

Originally posted by carver9
Wow, well I can use the same argument for hulk, he rips darksied head completely off or breaks darksied neck. I wonder who would heal 1st.

No offense carver 😉

he asked how one can physically take out the Hulk, i gave him the answer.

Though, if your read further you would have seen that I would give WWH the win over jobberside. 😉

Originally posted by iceman24567
Darkseid gives the Hulk the beating Cain would if Hulk didn't bfr him.

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, what proof is there that someone of darkseid's strength level (superman/orion/hercules/thor) coud possibly beat hulk h2h a few times let alone 10/10?? he has no force field, he can be beat physically, he has no superspeed . . .

how does darkseid win this again using just his fists?

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He breaks WWH neck? (happend already) or Ripps his head off?

anyway

Physically I would go with WWH vs Jobberside, till we see more of the new Darkside.

Originally posted by Mindset
I hope you're not talking to me.

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My question is when has anyone ever seen the Hulk quickly and brutally taken down? Darkseid neither has the strength, or the tactical martial arts to pull this off.

I think it would be the other way around, Darkseid would be looking for a way to stop this behemoth from cutting the meat off of his ass. While running around Apokolips looking for an ultimate weapon to deal with King Hulks punishing blows.

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, what proof is there that someone of darkseid's strength level (superman/orion/hercules/thor) coud possibly beat hulk h2h a few times let alone 10/10?? he has no force field, he can be beat physically, he has no superspeed . . .

how does darkseid win this again using just his fists?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Ds does have superspeed.......in Cosmic Odyssey, he showed that he had picosecond reactions.

meh. he's never demonstrated it in actual h2h combat. he certainly won't be blitzing hulk, nor will he be landing a thousand blows a minute.

based on what we've seen of both, i see no way ds takes this in a purely h2h battle.

Originally posted by leonidas
meh. he's never demonstrated it in actual h2h combat. he certainly won't be blitzing hulk, nor will he be landing a thousand blows a minute.

based on what we've seen of both, i see no way ds takes this in a purely h2h battle.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
This is based off what? He consistently faces a bloodlusted Superman in h2h, he responds to Supes speed blitzing him, etc. Unless there's some solid on panel evidence that suggest oterwise, it's nothing more than speculation. Seeing how he's comfirmed himself that he has superspeed, I don't see how it's fair to deprive him of that ability. 😬

What issue did Darkseid use superspeed in a fight?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
This is based off what? He consistently faces a bloodlusted Superman in h2h, he responds to Supes speed blitzing him, etc.

really? you have proof of him responding to a speedblitz? and bloodlusted superman? 😕

when did he face off against a truly blood-lusted superman? not that it would help much. wwh would also be bloodlusted and his healing factor was off the charts. 😬

Unless there's some solid on panel evidence that suggest oterwise, it's nothing more than speculation.

i'm not sure what you think i'm speculating about . . . i said ds has never demonstrated superspeed in h2h combat. if you have proof to the contrary (aside from a supposition about his ability to answer superman's own superspeed . . .) then i'll gladly concede you the point.

Seeing how he's comfirmed himself that he has superspeed, I don't see how it's fair to deprive him of that ability. 😬 [/B]

you have him saying he has superspeed, but no on-panel proof of his ability to use superspeed in h2h combat. how can i deprive him of something he has never shown? 😕

regardless, there is still no evidence whatsoever to suggest that anyone with top tier strength levels can defeat wwh in straight h2h combat. orion and superman have both defeated him in direct h2h combat. SHOW ME PROOF ds has combat-style superspeed and you MAY have a case, otherwise my opinion stands: wwh takes this. 😬

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No offense carver 😉

he asked how one can physically take out the Hulk, i gave him the answer.

Though, if your read further you would have seen that I would give WWH the win over jobberside. 😉

no prob 💃

wwh 8/10, just to much for darkseid.

Originally posted by leonidas
really? you have proof of him responding to a speedblitz? and bloodlusted superman? 😕

regardless, there is still no evidence whatsoever to suggest that anyone with top tier strength levels can defeat wwh in straight h2h combat. orion and superman have both defeated him in direct h2h combat. SHOW ME PROOF ds has combat-style superspeed and you MAY have a case, otherwise my opinion stands: wwh takes this. 😬

Other than that, He could barely handle a avatar of Ds and Kalibak amped by Darkseid has easily over powered Orion(physically of course). Not mention that the recently, it's been hinted that Darkseid wanted Orion to kill him, so he may be reborned.....

As for Superman.....the only time he's beaten him with h2h and nothing else, was in that one Action comics story.....Apokolips now was blatant pis, as he had full acess to his powerset and fought like a tard.....

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Superman speedblitzed him? What issue and which fight?

What issue did Darkseid use superspeed in a fight?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_031.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_032.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanconfidential08_18.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanconfidential08_19.jpg

The scans I posted above and here.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/003-SupermanBatman013Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

It's not just the fact that he faces Superman, it's the fact that he's shown high degrees of superspeed on panel......It's highly absurd to claim that he can't use it against Wwh, when he's stated that he can react within a microsecond......it's like being incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.😬

There's also no proof that he doesn't use speed in his fights....most of the time he doesn't even need it......just to let you know.....

Like I said, it's like being incapable of putting two and two together. It's easy, he has superspeed, he fights characters with superspeed(just fine btw), and it's not outside of powerset to do so. To claim that he can't use that ability in h2h, is utterly ludicrous.😬

Darkseid only lost to Orion, because it was a prophecy of the Source.......

Other than that, He could barely handle a avatar of Ds and Kalibak amped by Darkseid has easily over powered Orion(physically of course). Not mention that the recently, it's been hinted that Darkseid wanted Orion to kill him, so he may be reborned.....

As for Superman.....the only time he's beaten him with h2h and nothing else, was in that one Action comics story.....Apokolips now was blatant pis, as he had full acess to his powerset and fought like a tard.....

i'm not even certain cosmic odyssey is canon . . . not that i proves anything anyway. all he did was knock supes backwards. didn't even hurt him . . .

besides, you claimed superman was bloodlusted. in neither of those fights was he anything remotely close to bloodlusted. in the superman/bats issue, the one where supes WAS po'd, he blitzed ds and what happened? he hit him. ds didn't hit back until after superman's initial attack. he what . . . didn't feel the need to employ this mythical superspeed you're granting him . . .?

you claim pis when supes beat him. your perogative, but i see no reason to believe that to be the case, especially since supes' already beat him once. it has particular relevence here because it remained a h2h battle. and if supes can do it, orion can as well, regardless of prophecy. and if they can, wwh can as well.

perhaps at one time ds was more than he is, but he is what he is now. and what he is is NOT physically superior to superman.

you can claim all you'd like that ds has superspeed, but unless you can prove it, no one, including me, is ever going to buy it. again, show me a scan that indicates he has superspeed. i remember he took out flash once while flash wasn't looking or something, but that's not very helpful. show scans of him beating someone using superspeed against him. after all, lots of people fight superman. should we assume EVERYONE that manages to fight and hit superman has superspeed?

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hell, i'm not even sure at this point what you're claiming. is ds gonna blitz him?? no way. is he gonna throw a thousand punches a second and ko wwh in the first picosecond??? that chance is far les than zero. neither is even remotely in character for him -- not that you can prove he could do so anyway . . .

it's a little more complicated than 2+2, i'm afraid . . . and i still see no way for ds to win this h2h.

if you get some superspeed scans and proof, i'll happily continue this and concede you the point. until then, wwh wins this type of fight.

oh, and that bit about there being no proof he 'DOESN'T use superspeed in his fights . . .' that's just . . . 😑

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_031.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_032.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanconfidential08_18.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanconfidential08_19.jpg

The scans I posted above and here.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/003-SupermanBatman013Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

It's not just the fact that he faces Superman, it's the fact that he's shown high degrees of superspeed on panel......It's highly absurd to claim that he can't use it against Wwh, when he's stated that he can react within a microsecond......it's like being incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.😬

There's also no proof that he doesn't use speed in his fights....most of the time he doesn't even need it......just to let you know.....

Like I said, it's like being incapable of putting two and two together. It's easy, he has superspeed, he fights characters with superspeed(just fine btw), and it's not outside of powerset to do so. To claim that he can't use that ability in h2h, is utterly ludicrous.😬

Darkseid only lost to Orion, because it was a prophecy of the Source.......

Other than that, He could barely handle a avatar of Ds and Kalibak amped by Darkseid has easily over powered Orion(physically of course). Not mention that the recently, it's been hinted that Darkseid wanted Orion to kill him, so he may be reborned.....

As for Superman.....the only time he's beaten him with h2h and nothing else, was in that one Action comics story.....Apokolips now was blatant pis, as he had full acess to his powerset and fought like a tard.....

Well in some of the fights that Darkseid has lost like the Doomsday fight,Apokolips now,Superman/Batman twice,the Raker incident,Orion in countdown 2 why didnt he use superspeed here to get himself out of a jam. You are saying he doesnt need it but he is losing in all of these scenarios and didnt speedblitz once. To prove he has an ability you must post proof of it.

Now in hunter and prey he was hit from behind and couldnt even counter yet you claim he has superspeed and can react very quickly but this right here proves you are incorrect imo. That and the fact you have zero scans supporting your argument.

If Darkseid could speedblitz we would have a scan thus proving this. We dont have any scans so its baseless.

With regards to apokolips now there are two probelms with what you posted. He had full access to his powers which he wont here so its a moot point. And it being pis. We have seen this over and over to know classic Ds=Superman imo.

Darkseid speedblitzed Flash making him say an odd conjointed sentence 😖hifty:

WWHulk should win this. Old Darksied has lost his credibility lately.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Darkseid speedblitzed Flash making him say an odd conjointed sentence 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not even certain cosmic odyssey is canon . . . not that i proves anything anyway. all he did was knock supes backwards. didn't even hurt him . . .

if you get some superspeed scans and proof, i'll happily continue this and concede you the point. until then, wwh wins this type of fight.

oh, and that bit about there being no proof he 'DOESN'T use superspeed in his fights . . .' that's just . . . 😑

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the scans that you posted above he flew at Darkseid and Darkseid countered. At no point in any of these fights was Superman speedblitzing. In WW Hulk Sentry flies at WW Hulk and he counters. Same thing. You cant have it your way. Both can react and counter characters flying at them at high speeds.

Well in some of the fights that Darkseid has lost like the Doomsday fight,Apokolips now,Superman/Batman twice,the Raker incident,Orion in countdown 2 why didnt he use superspeed here to get himself out of a jam. You are saying he doesnt need it but he is losing in all of these scenarios and didnt speedblitz once. To prove he has an ability you must post proof of it.

Now in hunter and prey he was hit from behind and couldnt even counter yet you claim he has superspeed and can react very quickly but this right here proves you are incorrect imo. That and the fact you have zero scans supporting your argument.

If Darkseid could speedblitz we would have a scan thus proving this. We dont have any scans so its baseless.

With regards to apokolips now there are two probelms with what you posted. He had full access to his powers which he wont here so its a moot point. And it being pis. We have seen this over and over to know classic Ds=Superman imo.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Please go away......