KC Superman Vs WW Hulk (Fist Fight)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Plenty showed that Joker obsessed about keeping people alive to torture them in that arc. Luthor, Batman etc.

There's a legitimate difference between torture and Superman's encounter with Joker. Therefore, I don't think it's justified to speculate that Joker was keeping Superman alive.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Tesseracts right?

Yeah I don't want to argue about author/artist's intent there.

And?

I suppose the feat means dick even despite the fact that Atom basically stated nobody else could survive that? Also, despite the fact that Green Lantern and Faith were desperately trying to shield themselves from the effects?

Give a little credit where credit is due.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't recall him actually fighting without his heart, but it's been awhile.

And still it has no bearing in a debate because he was hugging the ****ing sun to keep alive.

Originally posted by batdude123
Having your cells being powered up with extra energy does nothing for your missing heart.

Originally posted by batdude123
There's a legitimate difference between torture and Superman's encounter with Joker. Therefore, I don't think it's justified to speculate that Joker was keeping Superman alive.

I disagree srug

Originally posted by batdude123
I suppose the feat means dick even despite the fact that Atom basically stated nobody else could survive that? Also, despite the fact that Green Lantern and Faith were desperately trying to shield themselves from the effects?

Marvel took a hit from a tesseract bomb and ended up fine.

Originally posted by batdude123
Give a little credit where credit is due.

Fine.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Marvel took a hit from a tesseract bomb and ended up fine.

And he's roughly as durable as Superman, so it doesn't exactly surprise me.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Kryptonians also lived and died like regular Earth people in their home world. They are Earth-Sun dependant for their powers. I'd be the 1st person to tell you Superman's overall powers and abilities dwarf WWH's but a standing Fist Fight with WWH is a deathwish for Superman.

For the love of god This is KC Superman he is stronger and faster than the mainstream Clark we read about. KC Superman would beat The Sentry , WWh and Greg Pak at the same time 😐.

In a fight in which they are simply slugging it out superman gets completely stomped( no speed). WWH had his uppertorso ripped through
multiple times and healed practically instantaneously without evn stopping for breath. Superman simnply does not have what it takes to down WWH in a slugfest. All he will succeed in doing is getting himself in trouble as WWH will get much stronger and and more durable plus his HF will get evn faster as the fight goes on. In a normal fight supes gets a 10/10 victory over WWH because of his extra powers but in a standing fist fight he gets stomped.

The whole problem of the hulk not having enough time to amp up to his lvl is over as WWH base strength is already around dat lvl.

Originally posted by james2099
All i am saying is that when the fistfight starts,Who is going to land the first punch or first hundred blows?... Hulk cannot match supermans punching speed and all superman has to do is not hold back and UNLOAD with his GREATEST....FASTEST....DESIGNED TO KILL OR SEND SOMEONE TO THE PLANET HISAWQE UPPERCUT... Hulk cannot win because he is toooooooo slowwwwwww to stop this uppercut... Superman does not need to fly to win this.

Agreed that if supes uses his speed then he will win but if you think dat one supes uppercut no matter how fast or how hard it comes will kill WWH then you are delusional.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Actually I said Superman's healing is accelerated but ONLY IN COMPARISON TO a normal human. Sorry, but Supes just doesn't have a wolverine-style HF....or anything close.

Agreed, supes may have a healing factor but it certainly is not as effective nor does it work in the same way as the huklks HF. Supes Hf has never been shown to be as active in battle as the hulks or evn of the same quality

Originally posted by Avlon
toe2toe hulk would be ko'd. By WWH showings...Superman wins. There is nothing Hulk could do against a space launching uppercut.

Speed and strength wise, Hulk is outclassed.

When i hear things like this all i can do is laugh. Indeed speed wise superman does outclass the hulk but to say he does it strength wise is just plainly stupid. It shows a blatant disregard for the strength feats the hulk has dat not only match but sometimes exceed those of superman.
People can have their different opininons on who is stronger but to say that superman totally outclasses WWH strengthwise is simply a display of ignorance about the hulk character or a choice to ignore on panel evnts.

WWH PUNCHES KC SUPERMAN AND BEATS HIM!!!! THEN HE THROWS KC SUPERMAN INTO THE SUN AND HE BURNS AND HE DIES AND HE LOSES AND HE DOES NOTING!!!!!

WWH FTW AND FOREVER AND WINS AND BEATS EVERYONE AND PUNCHES THE WATCHER AND SMASH HULK PUNY KC SUPERMAN LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLIPOP *BOING* BOING* LOLLOLBBQSAUCE!!!!!

Yeah, no one can argue agaisn't that....

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Agreed, supes may have a healing factor but it certainly is not as effective nor does it work in the same way as the huklks HF. Supes Hf has never been shown to be as active in battle as the hulks or evn of the same quality

Originally posted by horrorwolf
In a slugfest...just look at DOS. Superman loses. Slugfests against a massively healing tank like WWH at close range would end up in a loss for Superman.

Stop handicapping the man of Steel for gods sakes.
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Let him fly.

I agree. The reason superman is so damn super is because he's so damn versatile. In a slugfest, yeah hulk would take it. He's the best brick there is. But whats to stop superman from constantly pouring on heat vision at full power and pounding on him at the same time? Regenerate from that. He doesn't even need to fly. Supes burns off half his face with million degree heat vision and follows with one of his punches that flattens mountains. Done.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
In a slugfest...just look at DOS. Superman loses. Slugfests against a massively healing tank like WWH at close range would end up in a loss for Superman.

Stop handicapping the man of Steel for gods sakes.
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Let him fly.

Originally posted by cheap cabbage
I agree. The reason superman is so damn super is because he's so damn versatile. In a slugfest, yeah hulk would take it. He's the best brick there is. But whats to stop superman from constantly pouring on heat vision at full power and pounding on him at the same time? Regenerate from that. He doesn't even need to fly. Supes burns off half his face with million degree heat vision and follows with one of his punches that flattens mountains. Done.

all superman would achieve with that is to make Hulk stronger and more angry.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk would just palm it back at Superman, grab his head and give him a mother of a headache.
you forget, Hulk's impervious to heat (as far as we've seen), even at a weaker level he dived into molten lava and held a planet together.

all superman would achieve with that is to make Hulk stronger and more angry.

I think Superman wins. Unless he just uses average speed then he probably loses.

Edit: KC wins.

human torch and ghost rider tried that already.

and i don't understand how superman widening his hv doesn't lower it's temperature, when i hear the explanations of hv people always say he converts the solar power into pure energy and focuses it through his eyes like a magnifieng glass. focus is the magic word right? plus he should be severely drained from using his hv due to it being pure absorbed energy from his reserves.

What you think it should be and what it is,is totally different,he used full blast hv and not get tired these days,and comparing human torch to ****ing supermans heat vision...makes me wanna ****ing cry.

what temperature is hv then?

Never been a given temperture,only time its ever really mentioned is someone says that its temperture cant be measured by science,its power is well documented again has enough energy while he was directly under a red sun to power the generators of a planet 16x earths mass and that was from not only a red sun weakened superman but one that is far weaker then the post inf crisis one of today,comparing human torch to it is just borderline retarded.