Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Scattered into tiny pieces hes still alive,its active all the time and is just as good as hulks,and to answer your other post superman has hulk beat in preety much any strength feat ever.
Actually superman does not have the hulk beat in strength feats. And that debate is besides the point anyways. The hulks has way more healing feats than superman and has evn better feats than him as well.
The main thing is that if superman is not using his speed but is just trying to slug it out with the hulk ( blow for blow) then he is going to lose.
How can a charcter with a finite lvl of strength and durability no matter how great defeat another character that has a potentially unlimited lvl of strength and durability that will only continue to grow exponetially in a slugfest in which both characters are simply punching themselves out( without superspeed). I do not know the thread makers intent but if he intended this fist fight to be the type that superman engages in against the likes of solomon grundy in which he tries to use strength alone to win with NO OTHER POWERS then it is rather illogical to say superman wins this .
Also the argument that it takes the hulk to long to reach supermans strength lvl is extremely extremely ridiculous in this case( actually its stupid in any case but thats is a debate for another day) because WWH was portrayed to be at that lvl of strength throughout the entire saga( heck on planet hulk while weakened he held the planet together). Hence the idea some have in their heads of supes one shotting the hulk is just
daft. The sentry may be below superman but he is not leagues below him and if the sentry could not take WWH down after expending all his enrgy then it will take more than one shot from any version of regular superman ( aside prime ) to put him down.
Now i understand dat this is kingdom come supes who is stronger and more powerful than normal supes. However in the past the hulk has shown dat he has the ability to match and exceed the levels of strength of any of his opponents and in the end the fact that the hulk will only continue to grow stronger and more durable during the fight will give the win.
With that being said if the thread maker intended to give superman the use of his speed in ths fight then superman takes it certainly
Taking away Superman's speed is like taking away a boxers speed in a fight. Superman holds back so much of his power. And Superman has far more greater control and understanding of his power than Hulk. Instinctively, Superman can use his might, to its fullest degree against the Hulk, to put him down before he can get any stronger.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Actually superman does not have the hulk beat in strength feats. And that debate is besides the point anyways. The hulks has way more healing feats than superman and has evn better feats than him as well.
The main thing is that if superman is not using his speed but is just trying to slug it out with the hulk ( blow for blow) then he is going to lose.
How can a charcter with a finite lvl of strength and durability no matter how great defeat another character that has a potentially unlimited lvl of strength and durability that will only continue to grow exponetially in a slugfest in which both characters are simply punching themselves out( without superspeed). I do not know the thread makers intent but if he intended this fist fight to be the type that superman engages in against the likes of solomon grundy in which he tries to use strength alone to win with NO OTHER POWERS then it is rather illogical to say superman wins this .Also the argument that it takes the hulk to long to reach supermans strength lvl is extremely extremely ridiculous in this case( actually its stupid in any case but thats is a debate for another day) because WWH was portrayed to be at that lvl of strength throughout the entire saga( heck on planet hulk while weakened he held the planet together). Hence the idea some have in their heads of supes one shotting the hulk is just
daft. The sentry may be below superman but he is not leagues below him and if the sentry could not take WWH down after expending all his enrgy then it will take more than one shot from any version of regular superman ( aside prime ) to put him down.Now i understand dat this is kingdom come supes who is stronger and more powerful than normal supes. However in the past the hulk has shown dat he has the ability to match and exceed the levels of strength of any of his opponents and in the end the fact that the hulk will only continue to grow stronger and more durable during the fight will give the win.
With that being said if the thread maker intended to give superman the use of his speed in ths fight then superman takes it certainly
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Taking away Superman's speed is like taking away a boxers speed in a fight. Superman holds back so much of his power. And Superman has far more greater control and understanding of his power than Hulk. Instinctively, Superman can use his might, to its fullest degree against the Hulk, to put him down before he can get any stronger.
How much needs to be explained? If superman decides to fight at the normal speed he fights bricks at then he loses. How in the world do knowledge and understanding of power evn play a part in this fight ?
superman using his might to its fullest degree would certainly not immediately ko the hulk. For heavens sake WWH was portrayed at an already superman lvl of strength throughout the entire saga. He was also shown to be durable enough to take more than one superman punch( thinking the contrary is just foolishness). Heck during planet hulk he went through a blackhole and came out better than the surfer. And he got evn more durable than that during WWH.
For you to say that supes can knock hulk out b4 he gets stronger is saying that supes can basically one shot WWH 😂 because it takes hulk only seconds to get stronger. DO NOT FORGET FAT THIS IS WWH WHOSE BASE STRENGTH IS NOT 100 TONS. WWH did not intend to kill people like Hercules, thing, she hulk and many other characters that he knocked out in a few punches.IN simple words he was holding back some of his strength in order not to kill them.
Saying that superman using his might to its fullest degree would instantly knock the hulk out is palin daft, wonderwoman was able to take shots from an all out superman without being instantly koed by his "great might" (lol at the phrase) and so can WWH.