Not even Celestials can defeat the Flash.
Originally posted by great_dane
well the truth is, i dont see him coming close to flash in speed, and if flash were to take his kinetic energy from him and viabrate through him the way he did to kill anti-monitor, then exitar doesnt stand a chance. that, and a good ol speedforce dump would get rid of him for good.if flash was able to beet anti-monitor, then he can beat some retarted character like exitar. he looks like a bucket for gods sakes
Originally posted by great_dane
well Iv'e given ways that flash would easily take this idiot down. how would exitar beat him?thor was able to crack his armor, flash hitting him with a couple million infinate mass punches to the tempo would kill him, instantly.
flash would be able to use heat touch and melt his armor off his head, then (at speeds of light) shit on him like a toilet
Originally posted by great_dane
ummm................no..so he warps reality a lil bit, flash time travles and warps it back himself.
creating god-like beings ? they'd instantly explode while flash viabrated through them.
power cosmic is like a tent on skid row compared to the playboy mansion(playboy mansion being the speedforce)
Originally posted by great_dane
o, ok.i mean flash couldnt viabrate through it right?
and before he threw it, hed be sitting next to savater in the speedforce like "you too huh?"
savatar-"ya...................... that lil ***** dude, one second i think im the shit, the next i'm getting fu cked up"
exitar-"ya tell me about, wher i come from, i have this backfiring power that never seems to work called cosimc...well anyway, its supposed to give me all these crazy powers and high cosmic being reality warping, time shifting powers. but for some reason i couldnt see the little bastard"
savatar-"ya, tell me about it,, hey........... you gonna eat that?"
exitar-" eat what?"
savatar slowly stands up and farts in his mouth
*both sitting with an awkward silence....
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Originally posted by janus77
SpeedForce isn't all that, it only seems to apply to a few characters. those who get their powers (and speed) outside of The SpeedForce are not susceptible to The Flash's manipulation of speed.that said, Flash FTW.
Not true.
Superman doesn’t get his powers from the Speed Force, yet Jay was able to steal his speed.
Originally posted by janus77
what I'm saying is that by weaving in and out of the timeline, he's basically achieving the same thing as Flash does with the Speed Force, no?how do you define the difference? Speedforce is a dimension/force too isn't it?
Flash gets his powers from another dimension, but he exists in one timelime, Zoom does not have powers that make him go fast, he is not moving faster than the average human in his timelime, but in ours he is. Just because he is achieves the same results of Flash doesn't make their powers similar. Superman can lift a truck with his super strength, Cable can lift it with telekinesis, both have the same results but are done in two very different ways.
true but Flash enters the SpeedForce, in order to achieve the >C speeds, which puts him in a direct parallel to Zoom and his timeline.
all I'm saying is that they are equivalents, just that one is lateral the other vertical... stepping into the Speed Force dimension but remaining in synch with the current object dimension, or staying in a dimension with a different timeline and stepping into different places on the object dimension.
just something interesting about the nature of speed/time... they're both the same thing imo, can't really demonstrate a workable separation.
as to the TK/strength thing, they are indeed the same in effect and if Flash attempted to steal kinetic energy from the actions (not the actors) in both instances he might only be able to do it in the case of strength, while from the perspective of the truck... it's still getting lifted.
Originally posted by janus77
true but Flash enters the SpeedForce, in order to achieve the >C speeds, which puts him in a direct parallel to Zoom and his timeline.all I'm saying is that they are equivalents, just that one is lateral the other vertical... stepping into the Speed Force dimension but remaining in synch with the current object dimension, or staying in a dimension with a different timeline and stepping into different places on the object dimension.
just something interesting about the nature of speed/time... they're both the same thing imo, can't really demonstrate a workable separation.
as to the TK/strength thing, they are indeed the same in effect and if Flash attempted to steal kinetic energy from the actions (not the actors) in both instances he might only be able to do it in the case of strength, while from the perspective of the truck... it's still getting lifted.
Umm, no, Flash entering the speed force has no relation to Zoom's timeline, where did you get they were parallels?
Zoom moves forward in time at will, really he should not have a limit on how fast he can go. I think you might have missed the point of my example of tk/strength. I was saying they are both two distinct methods that end in the same result. Just because 2 ways can result in the same thing doesn't mean they are similar.
Originally posted by Rorschach
An explanation on how Zoom's powers work
