Midnighter vs Iron Fist

Started by Soljer3 pages
Originally posted by Sam Z
When did that happen?

What? Iron Fist's upgrades?

His recent Immortal Iron Fist run.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Seeing as how your tag here is "Cartesian Doubt," why don't we handle this from a Cartesian perspective.

Lets see, lets see. Descartes, Descartes. Wasn't he the guy who was basically utterly invalidated by Spinoza and had holes poked through him by everyone from Liebinez to Bacon to Nietzsche? (looks through drug and booze-addled memory)

Why, yes! Hm, I seem to recall that he was all about eliminating doubt by disregarding the evidence of the senses as he established through his well known and useless "wax argument."

If we go ahead and reduce everything down, down, down to its most basic terms, then, what Descartes attempts to postulate is that empirical evidence is moot because we can never be sure we can rely on it. Therefore, deduction is rather better than induction.

Ooookay, proceeding from this framework lets see what we can make of your argument herein.

Hm, well, a misplaced comma, an incorrectly used colon, and a horrifically misspelled word. And how does one "where say?" It sounds fascinating and kind of fun. Is it a bit like ventriloquism? Other than these egregious grammar errors, I can follow you thus far.

You start your next sentence off with "though" implying that you're about to refute a statement. An example would be, "Though Superman has heat vision and the Martian Manhunter is susceptible to flame, J'onn's various other powers more than make up for Superman's fire-based attack."

Wait, that's not what you're doing at all. Instead you just start off with the word "though" and then flow into a statement that doesn't seem to make any sense at all. Instead you merely state that apparently this oddly named "Midknighter" fellow (what comics does he appear in? I don't believe I've ever read them) and Wolverine happen to have what seems to be a "far superior super power" (hey! Bonus alliteration points!), they can thus beat more powerful enemies then Iron Fist. Er, alright.

The next postulation seems to be attempting to establish a point that I believe was made already, in a much more clear manner than what you're saying here... by the person you're arguing with? Then why are you disagreeing with them?

So it's the old if "X" is superior to "Y" and "Y" is superior to "Z," then "X" is superior to "Z," in which "X" represents this bizarre "Midknighter" dude, "Y" is equal, apparently, to Wolverine, and "Z" is a stand-in for Iron Fist deal.

Wait, what is this odd logic in the next statement. Even if you believe the aforementioned equation, then your following argument for why it's invalid doesn't make... any sense at all. If "X" is superior to "Z" then... how exactly is "Z" also superior to "X?"

And how exactly is Mindset himself a conclusion, as evidenced by your fascinating argument "you're conclusion?" And why are you incapable of using apostrophes? And why are you arguing with the exact point he made only using more convoluted and less thought out statements? And why am I refuting what you're saying at length even though it's pretty clear that anyone who reads it would realize it doesn't make any sense? And why do you spell argument like that, not only once but twice, even though KMC has a spell check? And why can't you figure out what the f*ck Midnighter's name is, even though people have already pointed it out? And what on Earth are you trying to say? And why are you speaking in such highfalutin speech when you can't even spell "were" correctly? And why am I so infinitely more clear than you when I've been drinking for the past thirteen hours straight and I'm exceptionally high? And why...

... head explodes

Bad spelling aside, you have just highlighted you're in ability to understand the point of what i initially wrote.

As you have recognised the following premise doesn't support the conclusion proposed by Mindset.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Wait, what is this odd logic in the next statement. Even if you believe the aforementioned equation, then your following argument for why it's invalid doesn't make... any sense at all. If "X" is superior to "Z" then... how exactly is "Z" also superior to "X?"[/I]

This is the argument I disagree with because, as you have noted it doesn't make any sense. The second premise refutes its conclusion therefore making it is completely invalid. In other words you are mocking me, mocking someone else, when you actually agree with me in the first place.

So apart from a rant that highlights my blase approach to spelling on AN INTERNET forum, you're post only highlights your inability to read between the lines.

My post makes no sense intentionally, because it mirrors the unintelligible argument used previously by Mindset. So although you're post is quite humorous in places, it only really shows that you're a far better speller than me, something I would presume any way, as I do suffer from dyslexia.

P.S. Deartes contribution to the world of philosophy is generally regarded as greater than Liebinez or Nietzsche.

Originally posted by Soljer
What? Iron Fist's upgrades?

His recent Immortal Iron Fist run.

I read most but I don't remember him being all super human.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I read most but I don't remember him being all super human.

Keeping this simple; not even needing to get into feats, almost every issue of The Immortal Iron Fist starts in the following way:

"Orphaned billionaire Daniel Rand was raised in the mystical city of K'un-Lun and grew to becomes it's champion. After defeating Shou-Lao the Undying, Danny was granted extraordinary powers, enhancing his mastery of the martial arts and allowing him to achieve a superhuman level of strength, speed, and fighting prowess. Now Danny - a captain of industry, a hero on the run and a member of the New Avengers - fights on the side of good as ... THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST"

Originally posted by Soljer
Keeping this simple; not even needing to get into feats, almost every issue of The Immortal Iron Fist starts in the following way:

"Orphaned billionaire Daniel Rand was raised in the mystical city of K'un-Lun and grew to becomes it's champion. After defeating Shou-Lao the Undying, Danny was granted extraordinary powers, enhancing his mastery of the martial arts and allowing him to achieve a superhuman level of strength, speed, and fighting prowess. Now Danny - a captain of industry, a hero on the run and a member of the New Avengers - fights on the side of good as ... THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST"

That's pretty simple.