Originally posted by Bardock42I never said they were mutually exclusive.
So exactly what I said. The US is IN FACT a representative democracy. That it then on top of it is a federal constitutional republic, is true too. What is of course not true is that representative democracy is analogous to Republic. They describe very different things. And they are in no way mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by StrangeloveI know. I said they weren't.
I never said they were mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by StrangeloveI think we can all agree to that (though I have no idea what BigRed was babbling about). The US are certainly a Republic.
Nope, still a republic...and may I again state that this is way off topic.
Alright, rock on.
Yesterday (Tuesday, April 8), Former State Senator Jackie Speier (D) won election to California's 12th Congressional District, centered in southern San Fransisco. The election was conducted in an all-party or "jungle" primary, where all candidates from any party ran on a single ballot. Since Speier won with a supermajority of votes cast (77.2%), a runoff was unnecessary and Speier is now a Representative-elect. She is expected to be sworn in in the next couple days. She will be the overwhelming favorite to win in the June 3rd Democratic primary and in November.
In upcoming news, the special election to succeed interim Sen. Roger Wicker in Mississippi's 1st Congressional district is April 22nd. Republican Mayor of Southhaven Greg Davis, will face off Democratic State Representative Travis Childers as well as third-party candidates Wally Pang and John Wages. If no candidate wins a majority, the two highest vote-getters will face off in a May 13th runoff. CQPolitics rates the race as Safe Republican.
April 22nd also marks the date of the Pennsylvania Presidential primaries. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has already clinched the nomination, so he will win the primary, barring astromically unlikely circumstances. Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton is also expected to win over Sen. Barack Obama, keeping her campaign alive until May. However, her lead has been tightening over the past couple weeks as undecided voters have been making decisions. RealClearPolitics currently give Sen. Clinton an average lead of 7 points.
Until then, the political world is rather dead...
We are not a Republic any longer.
When the Constitution is held at such little regard (as it has been since WW2), you can no longer classify yourself as a Constitututional Republic.
Yes, technically we would be called a Federal Republic (not a Democracy like most Americans think), but I don't think it is true.
Originally posted by BigRedWell, possible conspiracies aside, the United States system is without a doubt a Republic and a Democracy.
We are not a Republic any longer.When the Constitution is held at such little regard (as it has been since WW2), you can no longer classify yourself as a Constitututional Republic.
Yes, technically we would be called a Federal Republic (not a Democracy like most Americans think), but I don't think it is true.
Originally posted by BigRed
So nobody else thinks the "none of the above" addition to the general election ballot is a good idea?
Bardock and I went over this already...no. I had a damned hard time coming up with viable options for this.
What would be YOUR tangible use for none of the above other than taking votes away from candidates so that they win with less votes?
However, I feel we should respect Strangelove's request to keep HIS thread on topic. He is doing an awesome job with provding us info on this. The least we could do is show him respect in his own thread while he works on putting together this information for us.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Bardock and I went over this already...no. I had a damned hard time coming up with viable options for this.What would be YOUR tangible use for none of the above other than taking votes away from candidates so that they win with less votes?
However, I feel we should respect Strangelove's request to keep HIS thread on topic. He is doing an awesome job with provding us info on this. The least we could do is show him respect in his own thread while he works on putting together this information for us.
Taking away votes? Who gives a ****? If they don't deserve them, why should they get them?
It is on topic, it is about adding a "none of the above" to the ballot for the general election in the US...