Who's The Greatest Solider Ever.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
And electricity, is going to let him punch through a tank hull easier, how? He had the durability to get shot up by Snake, have the Shagohod explode while in it(not a big explosion, but still), get shot up by snake again, be struck by lightning and caught on fire, and finally died when all the sniper rounds wrapped around him went off and punctured his chest. Hell, it takes durability to even have 10,000,000 volts running through your body! He has the stamina, because a normal human would not be able to last that long with extreme conditions like that without giving into fatigue. Volgin would b!tch Null.

Liquid was in the MG when it exploded and a Hind D, does that means he has super durability, no. You don't understand Volgin's powers do you? Why would you need durability to have 10,000,000 volts running through his body? He is not hurt by his own electricity, that's his power, to channel and control. Lightning from the sky is from a different source all together. And what do you think would happen if lightning with force behind it, struck a wall? Would it not break? And Null would do Volgin in with no problem. You can keep trying and every point you try to make will get put down fast. You might do better talking to someone who has not played all of the MGS games.

I doubt big Boss or the Ninja can beat The Teen Titans and they are light weight compared to the Justice League.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I doubt big Boss or the Ninja can beat The Teen Titans and they are light weight compared to the Justice League.

I think they can with enough prep.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
.................Snake is a eugenenically engineered clone of Big Boss that was altered with genome therapy. 😬

Liquid was in the MG when it exploded and a Hind D, does that means he has super durability, no.

A. If he was in those things when they exploded, yes it does mean he has super durability.
B. We don't know if he was. We never see him in the things exactly when they explode. Sadly, Liquid's big death-defying feats are all off-screen.

And Null would do Volgin in with no problem.

...he couldn't even lay a hand on Volgin....he couldn't even hurt Volgin if he tried.

You can keep trying and every point you try to make will get put down fast. You might do better talking to someone who has not played all of the MGS games.

Then stop debating yourself. Anyone who thinks The Boss can beat a serious Volgin doesn't know anything about Metal Gear Solid.

And Snake is more than a man with CQC skills. By you saying that only proves that you can't even begin to know and understand MGS. You're making your self look bad.

Counting every feat Snake has in canon (TTS isn't canon) Snake IS nothing more than a man with CQC. He isn't superhumanly strong or durable or fast.

MGS is my game, don't go there unless you know what you are talking, and you don't.

MGS is Kojima's game, son.
You're no better than the rest of us.

best soldier ever is cable

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Captain America is still peak human but w/o the SSS so he does not have limitless stamina in this fight. I think that it would be very unfair, for Cap to have that advantage.

Actually without the SSS he loses his limitless stamina and his peak potential stats.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Counting every feat Snake has in canon (TTS isn't canon) Snake IS nothing more than a man with CQC. He isn't superhumanly strong or durable or fast.

MGS is Kojima's game, son.
You're no better than the rest of us.

Kojima crated MGS, yes. I mastered it, inside and out. Gray Fox would kill Volgin. You know nothing and you proved that by coming out of your mouth, saying that The Boss can't defeat Volgin. Are you f***ing crazy. The Boss gave Snake a more harder time than Volgin ever did. If he can't even take out Snake where the hell do you come up with the idea that he can defeat The Boss. That's like saying Saget can beat Ryu's master in combat. Why do you think Snake is so good in the first place?

They all have advancements, the only true human is the punisher, and that makes him the ultimate badass in this. As for soldier, i might have to give it to Cap. since he is more like the personification of the greatest solider, punisher is a different kind of soldier, a soldier of the streets.

Originally posted by jgiant
They all have advancements, the only true human is the punisher, and that makes him the ultimate badass in this. As for soldier, i might have to give it to Cap. since he is more like the personification of the greatest solider, punisher is a different kind of soldier, a soldier of the streets.

Hot sig.

Kojima crated MGS, yes. I mastered it, inside and out. Gray Fox would kill Volgin.

Interesting. A man with a metal exoskeleton against a guy who controls 10,000,000 volts of electricity....
This could only end well for the moving conductor. 😄

You know nothing and you proved that by coming out of your mouth, saying that The Boss can't defeat Volgin.

Because..you know, she can't.
She's not as strong or as durable.
The guy took a lightning bolt without even falling down.....she died from a single gunshot wound.
Hell, Volgin has a bullet hole in his forehead in the final battle and is still ready to fight.

The Boss gave Snake a more harder time than Volgin ever did.

Excuse me....when Snake left his first match with Volgin, he was running doubled-over in pain the entire time. Even after he escaped the hangar.
He showed no signs of pain after his fight with The Boss.
Also, he defeated the Boss one-on-one with just a gun an dknife. He had an RPG-7 on his side against his second time with Volgin and STILL couldn't beat the Colonel.

If he can't even take out Snake where the hell do you come up with the idea that he can defeat The Boss

And Snake never defeated Volgin...your point?

Why do you think Snake is so good in the first place?

Skill.

The Unknown Soldier from Astro City.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Then stop debating yourself. Anyone who thinks The Boss can beat a serious Volgin doesn't know anything about Metal Gear Solid.

considering that when he questioned her and she got kinda angry and came in his general direction that he quickly moved away from her in a fearful sort of way kinda implies that he thought Boss would kill him.

He didn't want to upset her. She's a legend and a huge trump card in his schemes.
Fact is, we saw what The Boss can do. It doesn't even approach the level of strength or durability Volgin possessed.

We also know that it was her mission to lose to Snake. She knew she had to. And for basically most of the mission she was pwning Snake effortlessly. and suddenly she loses to him? Seems more likely she lost on purpose. and it seemed alot more like he was scared of her than what you are saying.

Ugh...not this again.
Naked Snake or rather Big Boss, is established as the greatest soldier of the 20th Century. Fact.
He's defeated people stronger, faster and far more powerful than The Boss. Fact.
The Boss has perhaps slightly above human strength. Real humans, not comic book humans. She demonstrated no speed or durability to put her on the level of the people Big Boss and later Solid Snake would face.
Hell, MGS2 Raiden is more impressive than her. He not only defeated a bullet-dodger twice, he took on Solidus in sword combat. Solidus "I can deflect every bullet fired at me by a Vulcan cannon" Snake. But Raiden was too fast for him.

The Boss has skill and preactically nothing else going for her.

Yet she was the Greatest Soldier of her time and even after He beat her Snake still didn't think he was as good as her. That probably means he thought she didn't fight with her all.

Anywho getting back on topic i see either Big Boss, Cap, or Snake taking this.

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