Originally posted by Kutulu
It's not PIS at all. Heralds have planet busting strength and power level easily. Beta Ray Bill busted a planet while fighting Stardust, Terrax destroyed a planet on-panel, Silver Surfer destroyed several, Nova caused an entire sun to go supernova and wiped out the entire solar system, etc.. These are normal levels of power for heralds.
Normal levels my a$$.
It's PIS at its finest. This is SS only feat showing this. The other one was just a bunch of rocks clump up no bigger than a small asteroid. Terrax's and BRB's ones were PIS too (I want to see the BRB one though).
Causing a sun to supernova is a garage feat. Even people on Star Trek can do that. All one needs to do is cause a chain reaction in the star.
Originally posted by Roldz
I think he was stating the obvious..Those rocks/meteors sorrounding the surfer qualifies as a large land mass equate to of a planet.. Its got its own magnetic field, and can generate energy as much as a sun..
The clump of rocks was no bigger than a medium asteroid (not even a planetoid like pluto). It had no magnetic field. And when do rocks generate energy period?
Why is all of this PIS?
Originally posted by Roldz
I think he was stating the obvious..Those rocks/meteors sorrounding the surfer qualifies as a large land mass equate to of a planet.. Its got its own magnetic field, and can generate energy as much as a sun..
Also, I see where the narrator actually refers to it as a planet.
Originally posted by h1a8
Normal levels my a$$.
It's PIS at its finest. This is SS only feat showing this. The other one was just a bunch of rocks clump up no bigger than a small asteroid. Terrax's and BRB's ones were PIS too (I want to see the BRB one though).Causing a sun to supernova is a garage feat. Even people on Star Trek can do that. All one needs to do is cause a chain reaction in the star.
xomfg
So basically because you don't like the idea of a Marvel character being that powerful you claim PIS.
Originally posted by h1a8
Normal levels my a$$.
It's PIS at its finest. This is SS only feat showing this. The other one was just a bunch of rocks clump up no bigger than a small asteroid. Terrax's and BRB's ones were PIS too (I want to see the BRB one though).Causing a sun to supernova is a garage feat. Even people on Star Trek can do that. All one needs to do is cause a chain reaction in the star.
The Silver Surfer did so casually, and his energy discharge was powerful enough to create a black hole.
Why is that PIS?
Originally posted by h1a8
The clump of rocks was no bigger than a medium asteroid (not even a planetoid like pluto). It had no magnetic field. And when do rocks generate energy period?
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Where did it say any of that?Also, I see where the narrator actually refers to it as a planet.
Now what hit Korvac after that planet exploded is an asteroid.. See where im comin at..
You question the size. Well its the perception of how that panel was drawn, it shows the char. importance ties to the plot/story/arc.. You see this alot in comics. for ex: in Supermans series. He is sometimes drawn 1/4 the size of Earth when floating in space in proximity to the planet and it makes it looks small.
Yes it had magnetic field. It was the reason why those space debris formed into a celestial body in the first place..
When does rock generate energy? When its core produce energy (This core happens to be a rechargeble ambient battery)..
Originally posted by Roldz
Yes it had magnetic field. It was the reason why those space debris formed into a celestial body in the first place..When does rock generate energy? When its core produce energy (This core happens to be a rechargeble ambient battery)..
Originally posted by Soljer
The Silver Surfer did so casually, and his energy discharge was powerful enough to create a black hole.Why is that PIS?
Creating a black hole is not necessarily harder than blowing up a planet.
And "doing it casually" has nothing to do with one's entire history. SS
never has shown that type of power before and he has fought at his best many times.
Originally posted by Kutulu
xomfgSo basically because you don't like the idea of a Marvel character being that powerful you claim PIS.
If SS, Terrax, etc. had shown this level of power throughout his history then I would very much like the idea. I would like SS even more (he would definitely go up to the top 3 of my favorite characters).
Originally posted by h1a8
Creating a black hole is not necessarily harder than blowing up a planet.And "doing it casually" has nothing to do with one's entire history. SS
never has shown that type of power before and he has fought at his best many times.
He, almost exclusively, fought on planets he sought to protect. See: Earth.
The fact that he took care not to one-shot the very place he was guarding means that he should somehow be incapable?
Originally posted by h1a8
If SS, Terrax, etc. had shown this level of power throughout his history then I would very much like the idea. I would like SS even more (he would definitely go up to the top 3 of my favorite characters).
Well you should now place SS as one of your top 3 characters then. Superman can crack a moon in half, does that mean he cracks Earths moon just for the hell of it? No way! Just because a character can do something doesn't mean they will do it - that's what separates a hero from a villain.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I see how you could say it generates energy at the core, because Surfer generates energy and Surfer is the core, but Surfer was the one who had the magnetic field coming off him, not the impromptu planet itself.
What cause Earth Magnetic field?
Originally posted by h1a8
Creating a black hole is not necessarily harder than blowing up a plan.
Originally posted by h1a8
And "doing it casually" has nothing to do with one's entire history. SS
never has shown that type of power before and he has fought at his best many times.
heck he blow up another planet in Infinity Crusade..
Originally posted by Kutulu
Well you should now place SS as one of your top 3 characters then. Superman can crack a moon in half, does that mean he cracks Earths moon just for the hell of it? No way! Just because a character can do something doesn't mean they will do it - that's what separates a hero from a villain.
This is to say that there are other feats which we can infer from that makes it reasonable for someone to do the feat in question. SS has no other feats that shows he has the level of power to blow up a planet. Like for example, Hulk has many insane feats that makes it believable if he did something crazy. SS has none. Superman has several feats that can be inferred from that he can crack a moon (even if he never cracked a moon before).
My argument is not "since SS didn't blow up a planet consistently enough then his feat is PIS". But it is rather "he's never shown that level of power (even when many times fighting at his best) and thus it is PIS".
Originally posted by h1a8
My argument is not "since SS didn't blow up a planet consistently enough then his feat is PIS". But it is rather "he's never shown that level of power (even when many times fighting at his best) and thus it is PIS".
Originally posted by RoldzIt wasn't narrated as being a planet. This is what the stupid guy says in the panel.
It was narrated, him being part of the planet.. This is why he was referred to as the core..
What cause Earth Magnetic field?
Creating a blackhole in a planet no matter the sized would definetely destroy it.. No matter how you look at it SS can destroy a planet..
SS has been shown time and time again to have sufficient power output to blow up a planet.. Ie. evolving a planet for a few 100 years that right there requires massive energy..
heck he blow up another planet in Infinity Crusade..
Originally posted by h1a8
Your argument has some faultiness in it. Here's an example, what if Sentry released all his energy and blew up a good fraction of the galaxy (hence a million exploding suns). Would this be believable? Especially with all the times we have seen Sentry fight at his best and has shown contradictory power?
We have only seen Sentry release his full energy level once, and in that case was against WWH where the energy was directed towards the Hulk. Hulk is a lot more durable than a puny planet. There is a very valid reason that characters in the Hulk / Sentry / Superman range of power are constantly said to be "holding back" - they don't want to blow everything up.
This is to say that there are other feats which we can infer from that makes it reasonable for someone to do the feat in question. SS has no other feats that shows he has the level of power to blow up a planet.
Silver Surfer has a ton of feats that make it completely reasonable that he's got more than enough power to casually destroy a whole star system worth of planets with ease. You've already been shown several scans of him blowing up planets - there is really not much more to debate here - you're just denying the facts, plain and simple.
Originally posted by KutuluSpeculation. This is comics my friend; we must go on the writer's intention. A million exploding suns>>>>>a planet plus WWH. Thus what you say is nonsense.
We have only seen Sentry release his full energy level once, and in that case was against WWH where the energy was directed towards the Hulk. Hulk is a lot more durable than a puny planet. There is a very valid reason that characters in the Hulk / Sentry / Superman range of power are constantly said to be "holding back" - they don't want to blow everything up.
Lies. SS doesn't have a ton of feats. He has only 1 (which was in Annihilation). And it's amazing how fanboys use inflated words (like several or multiple) to try to be convincing when there was only like 2 instances (actually 1 in the case of SS though).
Silver Surfer has a ton of feats that make it completely reasonable that he's got more than enough power to casually destroy a whole star system worth of planets with ease. You've already been shown several scans of him blowing up planets - there is really not much more to debate here - [b]you're just denying the facts, plain and simple.
Originally posted by h1a8
It wasn't narrated as being a planet. This is what the stupid guy says in the panel.The movement of the molten iron at the core.
My argument is not that SS can't destroy a planet but more so "blow it up".
No he hasn't. Evolving a planet is nothing (an insect to) blowing up a planet.
No he didn't. I guess destoying a planet's defense system is equivalent to blowing up the planet itself . 🙄
Exactly.. a reaction at the core..
It wasnt a 100 years but rather a few billion years.. I say that feats surpasses destroying a planet..
Well we've shown scans of Surfer blowing up a planet, energy discharge causing blackhole, Heck his destroyed a bunch of planet before after absorbing so much power..
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2833/silversurfer199612022ft5.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2884/silversurfer199612023yp9.jpg
heres another one.. The inciter is a planet size entity/construct..
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/X-men_Unlimited_13-31.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/X-men_Unlimited_13-32.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/X-men_Unlimited_13-33.jpg
He blows it up..
I quess those are all PIS to yah..
Right i was wrong it was a freakin deathstar, i just checked it.. Far better than blowin up a planet..lol
Originally posted by h1a8
Lies. SS doesn't have a ton of feats. He has only 1 (which was in Annihilation). And it's amazing how fanboys use inflated words (like several or multiple) to try to be convincing when there was only like 2 instances (actually 1 in the case of SS though).
Originally posted by h1a8
Speculation. This is comics my friend; we must go on the writer's intention. A million exploding suns>>>>>a planet plus WWH. Thus what you say is nonsense.Lies. SS doesn't have a ton of feats. He has only 1 (which was in Annihilation). And it's amazing how fanboys use inflated words (like several or multiple) to try to be convincing when there was only like 2 instances (actually 1 in the case of SS though).
We must go with the writer's intention?
Writers with whom you disagree, you would dismiss their intentions and label them PIS? Do you know in the latest avengers that Iron man said that sentry has the power of a thousand exploding suns...which power sentry used to reboot iron man's armor after doom overloaded it? clearly, it's hyperbole, unless you want to conjecture that iron man's armor has the power of 1000 exploding suns.