Originally posted by Sado22
true about the adamantium bones. but batman has taken blows by superman and lived to talk about it. wolveirne has experience but bats is the better fighter. experience aint everything. bats has technique, speed and more focus.(let me guess: bad writing right?)
sorry, but that the worst arguement ever. If superman even tapped batman he his organs would be destroyed.
Your opinion that batmans a better fighter which I dont agree.
speed? Lol Logan has meta human levels of speed.
techingue and focus? Thats your opinion and not a fact. Logan has shown to have both of theses in spades.
Not even sure what the last part of your posts is refferring to?
also h2h match between the two goes to wolverine ever time. Batman does not have the power nor strength to put down wolverine let a lone for a majority.
sorry, but that the worst arguement ever. If superman even tapped batman he his organs would be destroyed. Your opinion that batmans a better fighter which I dont agree. speed? Lol Logan has meta human levels of speed. techingue and focus? Thats your opinion and not a fact. Logan has shown to have both of theses in spades. Not even sure what the last part of your posts is refferring to? also h2h match between the two goes to wolverine ever time. Batman does not have the power nor strength to put down wolverine let a lone for a majority.
technique and focus, i say that cuz logan is more prone to rage and rashness than batman. bats can use that to his advantage. and lets not forget that bats was able to last in a fight against karate kid who was the better fighter (pis, maybe, but its still a fact just like bats surviving superman's hissy fit is despite everything a fact).
Originally posted by Sado22technique and focus, i say that cuz logan is more prone to rage and rashness than batman. bats can use that to his advantage. and lets not forget that bats was able to last in a fight against karate kid who was the better fighter (pis, maybe, but its still a fact just like bats surviving superman's hissy fit is despite everything a fact).
He also not prone to berserker rages nor rashness and has not been for a very long time.
karate kid arguement really does not help your cases. AT the time in which batman was able to do this, so could any top tier MA fighter. Karate kid was extremely weaken and far less powerful then he ever been. Batman did not fight the all powerful karate kid or anything closes to it.
Really matter little that he survived a punch from superman sinces we know superhuman does not kill and would never attempt to hit batman with a full power punch. We also know that Batmans body would be destroy from anything closes to a full powered attack from superman. Nor does it really protain to this match.
Mean nothing. Logan animal side is part of his powers. If anything his ability to keep it in check vast majority of the time proves his focus and tech at least rivals that of batman.
He also not prone to berserker rages nor rashness and has not been for a very long time.
karate kid arguement really does not help your cases. AT the time in which batman was able to do this, so could any top tier MA fighter. Karate kid was extremely weaken and far less powerful then he ever been. Batman did not fight the all powerful karate kid or anything closes to it.
Really matter little that he survived a punch from superman sinces we know superhuman does not kill and would never attempt to hit batman with a full power punch. We also know that Batmans body would be destroy from anything closes to a full powered attack from superman. Nor does it really protain to this match.
Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.Ridiculous.
He was owning on people who were owning on people who were owning on people who were owning on Green Berets...
Plus Superman...
wolverine can most certainly be koed.
If one take only high end showings as the absolute truth then that's different. But wolverine has been koed by forces much less than what Batman can dish out. So I'm giving batman the ability to ko Logan because of the suspension of disbelief.
With that said, here's how I break it down.
1. Speed is about even as both are able to dodge each other's attacks equally well. Personally I think batman can dodge Logan's attacks better than Logan can dodge batman's attacks. I call this comic intuition.
2. Strength is about equal. So this will definitely not play a role in the outcome of the fight.
3. Skills go to Batman. He's more skilled as a martial artist and fighter but Logan is not very far behind. Batman has had far better teachers and training than Logan has had. Plus Logan hasn't shown me the defensive skills to be considered an A grade martial artist such as batman is.
4. Experience goes to Logan. But Logan has none fighting someone on batman's level. Thus his experience advantage is non-existent here.
5. Logan has HV. This could be the deciding factor here.
For batman to win he must most certainly hit Logan with a pressure point strike rendering him unconscience or hit Logan with a combo that leads to a ko. This would be very hard to do but possible with batman's skills.
6. In second fight, it is batman's belt vs. Logan's claws. I believe Logan wins this (unless gas can ko him).
So I say 5/10 in first fight
and 6-7/10 for Logan in second fight (unless gas works)
Originally posted by batdude123
It's completely unreasonable to say that Batman doesn't get a single win in a h2h encounter here. Especially when we look at his history and see the caliber of opponents he's beaten in combat... and consistently at that.Ridiculous.
Oh no Batman can get a win and likly will, but it rediculous for people to even consider giving him the majority in h2h fight. Hell it rediclous to assume he could even get 4 wins in h2h fight.
Originally posted by BattlehammerBatman can coneivably win through pressure points andone-hit kill methods, rendering Logan's HF useless.
Oh no Batman can get a win and likly will, but it rediculous for people to even consider giving him the majority in h2h fight. Hell it rediclous to assume he could even get 4 wins in h2h fight.