Originally posted by redhotrash
Ok, so contrary to all lists of his powerset, Wolverine is apparently in the 3-5 ton range (eyeroll).
So again, a guy who lifts (lets give him credit) around 1,000 pounds will hit harder than someone who lifts 35 tons, and why? Pressure points...
are you an idiot, or just dense, Wolverine's been described as Superhuman on multiple bios, his current handbook bio has him in class 4 SUPERHUMAN strength range.
And all this is consistent with his showings... 😐
No, he'll hit more effeciently.
Why? Because he's lightyears ahead of Venom in fighting capacity... Not to mention the fact that Spiderman's been clobbered by Venom's strength WAY WAY more than stood up to it....
😐
Originally posted by redhotrash
Ok, so contrary to all lists of his powerset, Wolverine is apparently in the 3-5 ton range (eyeroll).
Are you talking out your ass again?
Hulk ultimate guide states Wolverine ahs superhuman strength.
Marvel vs DC states stat list has him as superhuman in strength.
He been stated superhuman, enhanced human ect in comic, but never peak-human like you love to believe.
Originally posted by redhotrash
So again, a guy who lifts (lets give him credit) around 1,000 pounds will hit harder than someone who lifts 35 tons, and why? Pressure points...
Logan has thrown a dumbster that weight 1,600 pounds with one arm...........
1000 pounds is not even closes to his max.
yes pressure point .
Originally posted by jinzin😂 I wish you still had that as your sig. Spidey looks like a fvcking rag doll. I honestly don't get what you mean by this though. Wolvie will hit Spidey farther or harder, do more damage because of skill?
are you an idiot, or just dense, Wolverine's been described as Superhuman on multiple bios, his current handbook bio has him in class 4 SUPERHUMAN strength range.
And all this is consistent with his showings... 😐No, he'll hit more effeciently.
Why? Because he's lightyears ahead of Venom in fighting capacity... Not to mention the fact that Spiderman's been clobbered by Venom's strength WAY WAY more than stood up to it....😐
So your using a Hulk guide and a Marvel vs DC crossover as a power reference. According to that same crossover, Wolverine can beat up a Superman villain.
But yeah sorry to disagree with you. In the few months of reading your posts Ive learned that Wolverine can bench 2,000... no make that 8,000 pounds, can nail all the pressure points on a metaihumanly fast and agile target, has adamantium joints, can beat Lobo, nearly killed Thanos, has killed over 2,000 Hand ninjas, and could kill Galactus if only he could reach his throat..
Originally posted by redhotrash
So your using a Hulk guide and a Marvel vs DC crossover as a power reference.
Actaully I was using comic, but since you kept talking out your back decided to through in some other references.
Originally posted by redhotrash
According to that same crossover, Wolverine can beat up a Superman villain.
But yeah sorry to disagree with you.
Also by beat do you mean he got payed to take the fall which is what happened………
Originally posted by redhotrash
In the few months of reading your posts Ive learned that Wolverine can bench 2,000... no make that 8,000 pounds,
Originally posted by redhotrash
can nail all the pressure points on a metaihumanly fast and agile target,
Originally posted by redhotrash
has adamantium joints,
Originally posted by redhotrash
can beat Lobo, nearly killed Thanos,
Originally posted by redhotrash
has killed over 2,000 Hand ninjas,
Originally posted by redhotrash
and could kill Galactus if only he could reach his throat..
You know what I have learned about you?
1) your cocky
2) your condensending
3) you talk out your back end a lot
4) your ignorant
5) you keep unsisting on debating a character you clearly have little knowlede of.
Alright, sorry, his bones are connected and its yet ANOTHER mutant power that allows his bone structure to bend despite not having joints.
Let me know when he gets laser vision and freezing breath. That crossover was a mess in so many ways that nothing inside of it should be thought of as relevant. Also his stats might not be fan voted, but 90% of his KMC feats are fan created (by you).
Originally posted by redhotrash
Alright, sorry, his bones are connected and its yet ANOTHER mutant power that allows his bone structure to bend despite not having joints.
Let me know when he gets laser vision and freezing breath. That crossover was a mess in so many ways that nothing inside of it should be thought of as relevant. Also his stats might not be fan voted, but 90% of his KMC feats are fan created (by you).
Logan's bones are connected, It's a fact.
Logan has superhuman strength. It's a fact.
Want to know another fact? Hammer's absolutely right in saying that you talk out your ass on a frequent basis.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Alright, sorry, his bones are connected and its yet ANOTHER mutant power that allows his bone structure to bend despite not having joints.
Your quite ignorant of wolverien character arnt you? Logan has bones have been like this since they were first shown and have not differed onces since then.
Originally posted by redhotrashAlso his stats might not be fan voted, but 90% of his KMC feats are fan created (by you).
So now I am a marvel artist/wrighter? If that was an insult it was terriable.
Cute, fanboys have fanboys now?
You cant move your arms, legs, wrists without joints. Fact
Wolverine being able to lift over 2,000 pounds is b.s. and out of character. Fact
Battlehammer is fairly well known for being full of it on all things Wolverine. Fact.
Also I think its a little presumptious to be questioning my credentials. Im not the one saying that a class 30+ character cant hit as hard as a >1 ton'er
Originally posted by redhotrash
Cute, fanboys have fanboys now?
You cant move your arms, legs, wrists without joints. Fact
two class 100's have tried to pry Wolverine apart, AND FAILED. One of them was THE HULK.
Originally posted by redhotrashThat's not a fact, that's a bias and ignorant opinion. It not only ignores all of Wolverine's feats of superhuman strength, but also ignores the many times he's been described as superhuman, in comics, on cards, and in bios.
Wolverine being able to lift over 2,000 pounds is b.s. and out of character. Fact
What is out of Wolverine's character again?
Wolverine's been superhuman since his first appearance.
8 appearances later he was prying apart "unbreakable" chains.
Originally posted by redhotrashNo, he's well known for supporting Wolverine by and large on this sight. Does he by and large make stuff up? No.. but you do. Does he use facts? Yes...but you don't. Does he bring evidence, scans, and issue numbers to the table? Yes... But you don't.
Battlehammer is fairly well known for being full of it on all things Wolverine. Fact.
Stop projecting.
Originally posted by redhotrashI guess we'll have to add reading comprehension to the list of things you don't have, seeing as it's already been explained to you that wasn't what was being argued at all. 😐
Also I think its a little presumptious to be questioning my credentials. Im not the one saying that a class 30+ character cant hit as hard as a >1 ton'er
If you coat the joints on a action figure with unbreakable metal, they wont move, I promise. This is common sense. And his first appearance was against the Hulk, where in that issue did it show him being overly strong? Anyhow, enough with you, on to your domestic partner..
Addressing wonderboy's comments about me "looking like a ingorant SOB", thats kinda funny. Especially since you made like 4 spelling errors in your 2 run-on sentences. If you are going to insult someone's intelligence, at least make a effort to not look like a trouser stain while doing so.
On a side note, people have posted what must be bait threads on here to see if Battlehammer bites, and of course he does. Anyhow, when I hit the point where my name is a board joke and 1-3 people even listen to the b.s. I spew, let me know. Then I can look at you as a equal.
Also, its a shame but because of your avatar, whenever I see Gimli Im going to think "dumbass".
Originally posted by redhotrash
If you coat the joints on a action figure with unbreakable metal, they wont move, I promise. This is common sense.
Sorry your ignorance doesn't want you to accept that this is the case, but...it is.
Originally posted by redhotrash
And his first appearance was against the Hulk, where in that issue did it show him being overly strong? Anyhow, enough with you, on to your domestic partner..
Originally posted by redhotrashAh yes, spelling mistakes, the ultimate red herring to a losing argument. Thing is my spelling, nor my grammar have an impact on my knowledge of the subjects we're discussing, just as being able to point out spelling and grammar errors doesn't mean you understand more about Logan than two people who read his comics. It's not that you look like an ignorant SOB, it's that you ARE... Your refusal to give up on a debate that has multiple instances of proof shows that outright.
Addressing wonderboy's comments about me "looking like a ingorant SOB", thats kinda funny. Especially since you made like 4 spelling errors in your 2 run-on sentences. If you are going to insult someone's intelligence, at least make a effort to not look like a trouser stain while doing so.
Originally posted by redhotrash
On a side note, people have posted what must be bait threads on here to see if Battlehammer bites, and of course he does. Anyhow, when I hit the point where my name is a board joke and 1-3 people even listen to the b.s. I spew, let me know. Then I can look at you as a equal.
You wanted to discuss what you thought were "facts". The only fact of the matter however is that regardless of what people may or may not think of hammer, he DOES bring proof to the table to support his points of view. You pull shit out your ass, and apparently when that doesn't work you resort to ad homonym. Keep that kinda crap up and you WILL be a joke. 😐
Well obviously batman is the first to go down. He is just a normal man.
Cap goes down next. While a peak human in all categories, he's still below wolverine and spidey.
Comes down to wolverine vs spiderman. Spidey has the stregnth and speed/agility edge, while wolverine has the durability and skill edge.
Can spidey use his speed to deliver enough blows to put wolverine down before wolverine lands enough to ko spidey?
I think the fact wolveine has taken punches from top teirs stregnth wise like the hulk and still kept coming sways it in his favor. It doesnt take as much to ko spiderman as it does wolverine, and someone in spidy's class is going to hurt their hand somewhat punching an adamantuim covered skill. thats why I think wolvie would take a majority over spiderman in this scenario.