Originally posted by thadarknite84
I agree. But Batman's a ninja, he doesn't need to take them on all at once. There are other ways, and the art of the ninja, allows one to be able to take on thousands if that ninja is very skilled. And in Batman's case he does have a very good chance. Explosive batarangs can work wonders in the right hands.
Yeah and how many of those does he have?
Re: Which character can take down the most Hand ninjas?
Originally posted by Etrigan
Which of these characters can take down the most common Hand Ninjas before they go down? All characters have any weapons they would usually have on them. Take into account experience with fighting ninja-like characters as well as fighting skill.Daredevil, Elektra, Black Widow, Captain America, Wolverine, Black Panther, Moon Knight, Batman, Iron Fist, Midnighter.
My order for kill count would be:
Wolverine (but not that swiftly)
Midnighter (just due to him being very powerful)
Daredevil/Elektra (similar count due to experience and skill)
Batman/Iron Fist (Batman's equipment is useful, and they are both top-tier martial artists)
Black Panther (equipment and skill, not far behind)
Captain America (strong and fast, but I don't think he's really got enough ninja-style combat skill to bring down as many as the above)
Black Widow (she's fought the Hand before alongside DD, and they poisoned and killed her, she got saved by Stone)
Moon Knight (not really on level with the others)
Originally posted by llagrok
I believe the Zombies that Midnighter casually ripped apart were claimed to be 10x regular humans, by the scientist he found in the complex later on.
? I like to see evidences of this if you have it. And 10x what? I mean they could have 10 times speed, strength ect. but be extremely easy to damage due to decomsition.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but in all fairness supersharp adamantuim claws are more lethal. I mean hell Wolverine can cut a Namor and Grey Hulk with that and those people are class 100.Wolverine could still come top.
I always maintained that he would come top in numbers. But Midnighter could kill his amount more quickly.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
True.They are trying to tell me it be faster to take people out via punching then with claws lol.
Well maybe in the sense that he has a longer reach but when you think about it.....Wolverine could litrerially just mow them down with his claws even though MN is strong and can take people down with one pucnh it would not be as effective as supersharp weapons at fast speed.
Wolverine could literially be like a lawn mower.
Originally posted by Etrigan
I always maintained that he would come top in numbers. But Midnighter could kill his amount more quickly.
I dunno man....theres also the fcat Wolverien know their fighting style better.
Originally posted by Etrigan
No offense, but you only really specify in DC knowledge, don't you?Batman is equal to Elektra in ninja training and skill, and has less training than Wolverine (skill is debatable). Iron Fist also has extensive training in that sort of thing, probably not as stealth orientated though.
Are you aware of the fact that the Hand employ warriors who are practically invulnerable unless their heads are cut off, and can resurrect people from the dead, even heroes, and then can use that hero as their mind-controlled ally?
Black Panther has high level intellect and top of the line tech, maybe even to rival Batman's.
Batman is not the best trained ninja there, let alone most skilled.
Wolverine has lived longer than Batman but he wasn't known as the man he is today for a while. It isn't till latter on in his life, Batman started at age 8, what was Wolverine doing a that age not training that's for sure. And most of these people have a real life, relationships and all of that. Batman puts all of his time into being Batman. you could have the same amount of training as Batman, but it doesn't mean you are just as dedicated as he is. And just for the record. Bullseye would never do to Batman as he did to EleKtra. Just as skilled.... I don't think so.
Originally posted by llagrok
Strength, stamina, agility and speed.No mention of durability, and the scientist noted that the zombies were experiments in an attempt to create soldiers with 10X those stats. So I suppose it's no real feat.
Hmm I dunno sometimes people say stuff like that then you find otu its hyperbole. I would like to see the evidence, but in all fairness we should let the point stand.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well maybe in the sense that he has a longer reach but when you think about it.....Wolverine could litrerially just mow them down with his claws even though MN is strong and can take people down with one pucnh it would not be as effective as supersharp weapons at fast speed.Wolverine could literially be like a lawn mower.
I dunno man....theres also the fcat Wolverien know their fighting style better.
Wolverine would need to know their fighting style due to the fact he needs to emply skill to use his claws taking them all down with a mixture of martial arts, and he has short reach. Midnighter's just going to punch his way through the crowd and they'll be splattering everywhere.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well maybe in the sense that he has a longer reach but when you think about it.....Wolverine could litrerially just mow them down with his claws even though MN is strong and can take people down with one pucnh it would not be as effective as supersharp weapons at fast speed.Wolverine could literially be like a lawn mower.
I dunno man....theres also the fcat Wolverien know their fighting style better.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Wolverine has lived longer than Batman but he wasn't known as the man he is today for a while. It isn't till latter on in his life, Batman started at age 8, what was Wolverine doing a that age not training that's for sure. And most of these people have a real life, relationships and all of that. Batman puts all of his time into being Batman. you could have the same amount of training as Batman, but it doesn't mean you are just as dedicated as he is. And just for the record. Bullseye would never do to Batman as he did to EleKtra. Just as skilled.... I don't think so.
Like Iron Fist, Elektra is more skilled and more of a killing machine now than she was back in the early 80s. And Elektra has more Hand knowledge, giving her more edge.
Originally posted by Etrigan
Wolverine would need to know their fighting style due to the fact he needs to emply skill to use his claws taking them all down with a mixture of martial arts,
Not sure what you're saying here but Wolverine already knows the hands fighting style.
Originally posted by Etrigan
and he has short reach.
Yeah he does but slicing damage is going to be more effective than punching be cause he can not only thrust but swipe as well.
Originally posted by Etrigan
Midnighter's just going to punch his way through the crowd and they'll be splattering everywhere.
Heres the thing I dont think the Hand ninjas will just attack him they will probably use different tactics as well and this is were Wolverines knowledge will come into play.