Clear this up for me. Revan v Malak on the Leviathan.

What is the super duper uber official take on this?

I get a bit irritated when Bastila "sacrifices" herself for me, whilst I am beating seven shades of shit out of Malak. He does his stasis move but I wonder if somebody can "prove" (WTF? 😂 ) that Revan could not have freed himself before my precious decides to take on Malak herself.

So, in short, could Revan have taken Malak on the Leviathan?

Or did Bastila just want all the glory?

Originally posted by Light_Sith
What is the super duper uber official take on this?

I get a bit irritated when Bastila "sacrifices" herself for me, whilst I am beating seven shades of shit out of Malak. He does his stasis move but I wonder if somebody can "prove" (WTF? 😂 ) that Revan could not have freed himself before my precious decides to take on Malak herself.

So, in short, could Revan have taken Malak on the Leviathan?

Or did Bastila just want all the glory?

malak wasn't as strong on the leviathan, that's why you utterly took him apart there. Kinda like, i think its Sion isn't as strong when you meet him on Korriban in KOTOR 2.

I know about the gameplay, but wondered if Malak officially bested Revan on this occasion.

Yes, he did.

hmmm, that would make you wonder about Revan's actual strength. I always thought of Malak as stooge before that, the one the Jedi would rather have in charge of the Sith, but if he DID defeat Revan in hand to hand combat, that would put him at least on Revan's level, and tie their duals at one each.

What you have to remember here is that Revan still hadn't re-claimed all of his memories, which means that he may not have been as powerful as he had once been.

I know bud, I know.

Just wondering if Bastila wanted to take all the glory.

Revan was between worlds but Malak did not have his precious Star Forge.

Thanks for clearing this up.

Revan was beaten.

Originally posted by Light_Sith
I know bud, I know.

Just wondering if Bastila wanted to take all the glory.

As important as Bastilla is for the republic she knew that she was the only one who could hold off Malak because in the end Revan is the only who could have stopped Malak and thus he was the most important jedi in the galaxy.

Originally posted by truejedi
hmmm, that would make you wonder about Revan's actual strength. I always thought of Malak as stooge before that, the one the Jedi would rather have in charge of the Sith, but if he DID defeat Revan in hand to hand combat, that would put him at least on Revan's level, and tie their duals at one each.

Glad that this got you curious.

For what it is worth, Malak (strangely I might add) seemed in complete control up until the very end.

I am rather fond of him and I admired his brutality. He lacked the talent of Revan but went to extremes in an attempt to get the job done.

Talked a bit too much, but no Sith is perfect.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Yes, he did.

Oh, and your answer will not go unrewarded, my good chum.

I may even grant you forgiveness for not finding me that avatar I so desired.

This question I posed had been a thorn in my butt ever since I played KOTOR.

Originally posted by truejedi
hmmm, that would make you wonder about Revan's actual strength. I always thought of Malak as stooge before that, the one the Jedi would rather have in charge of the Sith, but if he DID defeat Revan in hand to hand combat, that would put him at least on Revan's level, and tie their duals at one each.

Except by the fact that on their next encounter, which was on the Star Forge and with Malak being empowered by it, Revan defeated him without much difficulty.

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Revan defeated him without much difficulty.

Maybe not 'without much difficulty', but it was not as incredibly hard for him as many make it out be. And the point still stands: Revan is quite simply superior to Malak. If Malak would not have been powered up by the SF, Revan would have won much more easily.

Originally posted by Light_Sith
I know about the gameplay, but wondered if Malak officially bested Revan on this occasion.

i will give the simple and logical answer

yes revan did beat malak on the leviathan, thats why instead of finishing the duel that you were beating him in, he used stasis and fled.
bastilla's "sacrifice" was merely a plot device leading to her fall to the dark side which was meant to enhance the story and make gameplay longer and more interesting.

had bastilla not intervened, malak would have lost but with some difficulty. it wont be a cake walk for the revan who was stunned momentarily with stasis. but i still have revan taking this one.

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Maybe not 'without much difficulty', but it was not as incredibly hard for him as many make it out be.

Yes, 'nearly unstoppable' for virtually everyone... except Revan.

Considering that Malak is on Dooku's level and arguably more powerful than the count while on the star forge and Revan is below Yoda, I fail to see how you think everyone's opinion of the difference of power is inaccurate.

So you're saying Revan is more powerful than Count Dooku?

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
He was described as "nearly unstoppable."

Exactly. The quote is referring to Malak's Empire in general, not individually... Although, it is true that the only person with the power to defeat him was Revan.