Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by Reptile_Master
lol had to revive this thread but I think Thor is gonna win. why?

Powerful though Superman is, he has two major weaknesses: Kryptonite and Magic. Thor happens to be packing an awful lot of the second.

Since John Byrne's revamping, I'd have to say that Supes strength level isn't any greater than Thor's either. His damage resistance might be marginally higher against physical attack, but as I've noted, Thor's got magic at his disposal as well.

As for Superman's other powers, we've seen Thor block all kinds of rays with his hammer, so heat vision doesn't seem to be much of a threat. Thor's had run-ins with super-speed opponents before, and Superman doesn't actually do much fighting at super speed, anyway.

And Superman doesn't really have much skill at combat. His opponents are usually either unskilled themselves or so much less powerful that skill never becomes a factor. Thor's fighting abilities are honed to a razor's edge from fighting extremely powerful and well-trained opponents.

Besides, we have seen Thor fight the Shi'ar Guardian named Gladiator to a stand still, and Gladiator is basically a knock-off of Superman.

Thor prevails after a long, brutal fight.

he's also beaten the crap out glads in their last enounter

Originally posted by Dizzle
Thor could probly take out Superman in one hit, thanks to his little magic weakness. That said, Thor is gonna have a hard time hitting Supes. As Superman is much faster and stronger, and has better reflexes. Thor does have a good amount of skill though. If Supes plays it smart and stays out of Thor's reach for a while and makes Thor try to throw Mjolnir, then closes for a punch or 2, then backs off and repeats. At the top of both of their games, I'd go for Supes, like 6/10.

It's a fair argument. I see it more like Thor 6 or 7/10, but it's a close match, written properly. Both deserve respect; let's stay away from one crushes the other-type rants.

he was never knocked out after geting hit so i just wanted to clearr that up

he got staright back up

Interesting, in that pic, WW deflecting Cap's shield with her bracelets. Implying she could've been hurt by it, otherwise...?

well maybe who knows

Originally posted by Mindship
I think I finally have a handle on this one.
1. 🤨Thor w/o hammer: Supes wins, 8/10
2. 🤨Thor w/ hammer as club/projectile: Supes wins, 6/10
3. Thor with hammer and full energy-wielding potential: Thor wins, 9/10.

Basically, in terms of sheer strength, speed and durability, Superman is tops. But once Thor brings his energy powers to bear, that's it for Big Blue.

Ok superman fanboy, Thor with the hammer will crush superman into ground beef, with the hammer Thor fighting abilities are>> than superman who let's face it can't fight to save his f**king life. Thor strength is= or > than superman depending on the story, Thor lifted the Midgard serpent and yank him with a pole which weighs as much as earth itself. Thor strength comes from Odin and Gaea mother earth, durability Thor is greater surviving planetary explosion head on and left with out scratch.

Thor win 6 or 7/10 if written properly. But a very close battle.

superman fans exaggerate

Superman has the advantage of speed. Thor has the advantage of Mjolnir, which is more powerful than many know. I believe Thor has a greater advantage, which is why I believe he would win more fights than he would lose.

Thor w/o Hammer vs Supes would be bad for Thor. Even with his warrior training and fighting ability, Superman's speed and innate abilities would stop Thor from winning. Superman has more than just super speed and strength. Thor would need his hammer.

Mindship isn't a fanboy. He's one of the more intelligent members of this forum. You rally shouldn't call someone a fanboy on the simple grounds that you disagree with their opinion.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Ok superman fanboy, Thor with the hammer will crush superman into ground beef, with the hammer Thor fighting abilities are>> than superman who let's face it can't fight to save his f**king life. Thor strength is= or > than superman depending on the story, Thor lifted the Midgard serpent and yank him with a pole which weighs as much as earth itself. Thor strength comes from Odin and Gaea mother earth, durability Thor is greater surviving planetary explosion head on and left with out scratch.

Thor win 6 or 7/10 if written properly. But a very close battle.

No fanboyism here. Supes has been hit by Molneer and gotten right back up. Had that not been portrayed in the JLA/Avengers crossover (and I understand it is considered canon), I would've voted maybe an even split.

Originally posted by spideycarnage
superman fans exaggerate

😆 That they do...

Originally posted by Mindship
No fanboyism here. Supes has been hit by Molneer and gotten right back up. Had that not been portrayed in the JLA/Avengers crossover (and I understand it is considered canon), I would've voted maybe an even split.

It's 'Mjolnir.'

I don't think he means to say that one hit from Mjolnir will down Superman. It certainly wouldn't. However, Mjolnir has many abilities that were not exemplified in the JLA/Avengers fight. The hammer is much more powerful than many understand it to be. It does more than shoot lightning. Used properly, it could effectively exploit Superman.

Thor could very well lose to Superman with the aid of Mjolnir, but the contrary is more likely to occur.

Thor wins this thou not that easy..... why does Thor win you ask because the weakness that Superman has Thor seems to be dripping with it......also I hate how people underate Thor's speed he is probobly just as fast as Supes he is stronger than Supes yes mayby marginably less Durabilty even thou i doubt it.....I mean lets see Supes get bombed by something that is as strong as a nuke and not have a scratch on him 7/10

Originally posted by GodofThunder
Thor wins this thou not that easy..... why does Thor win you ask because the weakness that Superman has Thor seems to be dripping with it......also I hate how people underate Thor's speed he is probobly just as fast as Supes he is stronger than Supes yes mayby marginably less Durabilty even thou i doubt it.....I mean lets see Supes get bombed by something that is as strong as a nuke and not have a scratch on him 7/10

I'm quite sure that Superman is faster than Thor (in terms of reflexive speed and agility.) No doubt, Thor does have the speed of lightning, but Superman is consistently shown to be faster.

I'd say Thor's strength is comparable to Superman's, but I seriously doubt that he's stronger. Can you back this statement up with any proof?

I think Supermna's taken nukes before, though if I recall correctly, he was KOed by the blast.

Superman is weak against magic, but not excessively. He's just as vulnerable to magic as anyone else (Hulk, Spideman, George Bush, etc.)

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yes mayby as in agility he is faster but also I have seen where supes couldn't even catch bullets althou Thor has dodged mind blast from Phoenix...........and yes he might be slightly vulnerable but how many god blast or fully powered lightining bolts will it take to get him down

All of these are impressive, but do you honestly doubt that Superman, the guy who can overcome the inertial field of a planet, would fail at attempting any of these feats?

Thor's strength is comparable to Superman's but again, I seriously doubt he's stronger.

Superman faling to catch those bullets was merely one bad showing. He's had many far greater speed feats. Certainly more than Thor.

I agree with your second notion. Superman can only withstand so many magical attacks before he is defeated. Using his speed however, he could evade many of the attacks, which makes this a good fight.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It's 'Mjolnir.'

I don't think he means to say that one hit from Mjolnir will down Superman. It certainly wouldn't. However, Mjolnir has many abilities that were not exemplified in the JLA/Avengers fight. The hammer is much more powerful than many understand it to be. It does more than shoot lightning. Used properly, it could effectively exploit Superman.

Thor could very well lose to Superman with the aid of Mjolnir, but the contrary is more likely to occur.

I know it's Mjolnir. But it is pronounced like "Molneer," and lately I've just been spelling it phonetically for the hell of it.

Absolutely, "the Hammer" 😉 is more than just a lightning-shooting club. That's why I gave Thor--using it to full potential--a 9/10 win.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'm quite sure that Superman is faster than Thor (in terms of reflexive speed and agility.) No doubt, Thor does have the speed of lightning, but Superman is consistently shown to be faster.

I'd say Thor's strength is comparable to Superman's, but I seriously doubt that he's stronger. Can you back this statement up with any proof?

I think Supermna's taken nukes before, though if I recall correctly, he was KOed by the blast.

Superman is weak against magic, but not excessively. He's just as vulnerable to magic as anyone else (Hulk, Spideman, George Bush, etc.)

No. He is more so than other characters.
It has to do with how he absorbs energy and how his powers work . He is fueled by yellow solar radiation, supercharging his cells and creating his bioaura, which protects him from harm, and likely is the source of his feats of strength and at least assists in his psi-based levitation aka flying. It's been shown in the past, that exposure to magic interrupts the pure-science processing of light to his aura, even bypassing it. He can't be cut by virtually anything, but Wonder Woman's magic sword cut his finger, because the chaotic nature of magic gets through his science-based protection. Magic punches from Captain Marvel have knocked him out. So, mjolnir would pack even more of a wallop against him.

Originally posted by Mindship
I know it's Mjolnir. But it is pronounced like "Molneer," and lately I've just been spelling it phonetically for the hell of it.

Absolutely, "the Hammer" 😉 is more than just a lightning-shooting club. That's why I gave Thor--using it to full potential--a 9/10 win.

It's actually pronounced Myolneer. 😛

I can't help but agree with you. 😉

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
All of these are impressive, but do you honestly doubt that Superman, the guy who can overcome the inertial field of a planet, would fail at attempting any of these feats?

Thor's strength is comparable to Superman's but again, I seriously doubt he's stronger.

I agree with your second notion. Superman can only withstand so many magical attacks before he is defeated. Using his speed however, he could evade many of the attacks, which makes this a good fight.

this guy isn't dodgin lighting wich moves just under speed of light.......not even the man of steel dodges that quickly........and Supes wouldnt dare get in h2h with Thor I mean wat is he going to do to win nuthing...........

Originally posted by roughrider
No. He is more so than other characters.
It has to do with how he absorbs energy and how his powers work . He is fueled by yellow solar radiation, supercharging his cells and creating his bioaura, which protects him from harm, and likely is the source of his feats of strength and at least assists in his psi-based levitation aka flying. It's been shown in the past, that exposure to magic interrupts the pure-science processing of light to his aura, even bypassing it. He can't be cut by virtually anything, but Wonder Woman's magic sword cut his finger, because the chaotic nature of magic gets through his science-based protection. Magic punches from Captain Marvel have knocked him out. So, mjolnir would pack even more of a wallop against him.

I stand corrected.

Still, his durability must negate some of the damage.