Originally posted by carver9
I wished that he turned that dial up on venom or how about turning the dial up on regular jean grey who stalemated him which was also voted by dc and marvel.
that's not true. jla avengers was written by kurt busiek, and wasn't (that i know of) fan voted.
the jla vs x-men and superman vs venom comics were pure shite. using venom hurting superman isn't even canon, and if it was, it'd be a heavy case of spidey/firelord.
I have those Marvel vs DC comics, and I don't recall the 2nd series being fan voted. Wish it was though since most of the matchups were as stupid as Wolverine beating Lobo and Diana losing to Ororo.
I remember when I first read Supes vs Venom ...I asked myself what Venom had for breakfast since he was manhandling Supes like a ragdoll. And don't get me started on JLA vs X-men. More stupidity in there than...well nevermind.
Originally posted by Raoul
that's not true. jla avengers was written by kurt busiek, and wasn't (that i know of) fan voted.the jla vs x-men and superman vs venom comics were pure shite. using venom hurting superman isn't even canon, and if it was, it'd be a heavy case of spidey/firelord.
they were not fan voted and it was written and decided by BOTH dc and marvel. Marvel and dc gave specific fights that was voted on by fans and the two that I named wasnt.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I have those Marvel vs DC comics, and I don't recall the 2nd series being fan voted. Wish it was though since most of the matchups were as stupid as Wolverine beating Lobo and Diana losing to Ororo.I remember when I first read Supes vs Venom ...I asked myself what Venom had for breakfast since he was manhandling Supes like a ragdoll. And don't get me started on JLA vs X-men. More stupidity in there than...well nevermind.
I agree, it was stupid but that doesnt change the fact that marvel and dc think that venom can take on both superman and spiderman and THRASH them.
Originally posted by carver9
they were not fan voted and it was written and decided by BOTH dc and marvel. Marvel and dc gave specific fights that was voted on by fans and the two that I named wasnt.
jla avengers is still considered canon. the others weren't.
jla avengers was written by someone with talent. the others weren't.
Originally posted by Raoul
jla avengers is still considered canon. the others weren't.jla avengers was written by someone with talent. the others weren't.
So since the fights didnt end the way YOU wanted them to you dont consider the writters of having talent. 😕
The only difference again between all 3 of the books is that they made one cannon and left the others alone but in the end its all the same just like the silver surfer vs orion and other crossovers are.
Originally posted by Digi
Thor. Crossovers are worthless for argument purposes, and Thor has magic to aid him. There's probably people Supes can beat that Thor can't, but head-to-head the magic is the decider.And AC, lighten up. I find Mr. Bootleg rather amusing, grammatical issues notwithstanding. And besides, "We Be Bootleg" and similar jargon is just a harmless form of roleplaying...which is what a lot of comic-book reading is anyway.
-DM
This is wrong. Supes is alot faster. he will hit him 100 times before thor blinks
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, it was stupid but that doesnt change the fact that marvel and dc think that venom can take on both superman and spiderman and THRASH them.
I doubt Marvel thinks Venom can take on Supes.
Its just part of the plot. A little jobbing here and there to make things interesting.
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