Thor vs Superman

what's black adam got to do with anything again? he's the same as cap marvel. i've already said there are a lot of reasons - many business related/behind the scenes stuff - that cm has always been considered at or near supes - even in the pre-c days.

and pre-c supes has travelled back in time - ss apparently has as well (i have most of ss appearances up til about 125 or so (?? i should check) of the latest run (vol3?). when did ss go back in time?) glads hasn't. it's why i brought it up. but we're not really discussing pre-c supes. we probably should be discussing glads in this thread either, but what the hell. and you always seem to have to speculate on what glads can do, or assume he MIGHT/SHOULD be able to do. that's the difference with glads - everyone else (whether they've been in more issues or not doesn't change the facts) can show proof of what they say. you can only guess and say he SHOULD be able to. but until he DOES . . .

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what's black adam got to do with anything again? he's the same as cap marvel. i've already said there are a lot of reasons - many business related/behind the scenes stuff - that cm has always been considered at or near supes - even in the pre-c days.

and pre-c supes has travelled back in time - ss apparently has as well (i have most of ss appearances up til about 125 or so (?? i should check) of the latest run (vol3?). when did ss go back in time?) glads hasn't. it's why i brought it up. but we're not really discussing pre-c supes. we probably should be discussing glads in this thread either, but what the hell. and you always seem to have to speculate on what glads can do, or assume he MIGHT/SHOULD be able to do. that's the difference with glads - everyone else (whether they've been in more issues or not doesn't change the facts) can show proof of what they say. you can only guess and say he SHOULD be able to. but until he DOES . . .

ohhhhhhhh it's Thor vs Gladiator my bad

Ok let's play your game

Thor can hit speedsters: Firelord , Silver Surfer , Gladiator , Quasar etc

Superman will be going at what Mach -------- he will defiantly Hit Supes

Superman weakness + power that can hurt Glad , Quasar etc will be enough

thor wins

"yaw , but black Adam ( who didn't do such thing was equal to pre Crisis superman)"

What Black Adam had pre crisis was huge combat feats. He was more powerful than Billy back then. In fact not even Pre Crisis supes alone could take him. He always needed cap Marvels help to do it.

Post Crisis its another story, theyr all rougly equal.

Originally posted by olympian
"yaw , but black Adam ( who didn't do such thing was equal to pre Crisis superman)"

What Black Adam had pre crisis was huge combat feats. He was more powerful than Billy back then. In fact not even Pre Crisis supes alone could take him. He always needed cap Marvels help to do it.

Post Crisis its another story, theyr all rougly equal.

But Black Adam never did what Pre-Crisis used to do

<<Thor can hit speedsters: Firelord , Silver Surfer , Gladiator , Quasar etc
Superman will be going at what Mach -------- he will defiantly Hit Supes
Superman weakness + power that can hurt Glad , Quasar etc will be enough
thor wins>>

never once, anywhere, said thor wouldn't hit him. thor certainly is more than capable of ko'ing supes, and he would at times. at others, supes' superior speed and strength would be enough for him to get in close, stun thor with point blank heat vision, perhaps straight into thor's eyes, then, once he's blinded, pummel him, make thor drop his hammer, USE thor's hammer . . .

you think thor would win - cool. i don't disagree. i just think supes (for what, the 1000th time) would win his share.

<<I have the crossover. Superman withstands Hulk's first blow, he blocks the next, and before Hulk lands the third blow, Supes destroys the noisemaker that was making Hulk mad. He didn't calm Hulk down by letting him punch him.>>

that's ALMOST right. supes withstands the first and second blow, but a caption above the second blow says hulk hits him 'again and again' implying - to me - that hulk was just wailing away hitting him many times, getting madder and madder. supes blocks the last punch then gets the bug in hulk's ear.

none of that alters my initial point - a frenzied, enraged hulk was pounding on pre-c supes again and again, supes was not fighting back, and hulk could not even make him MOVE! i was simply illustrating the difference between how pre-c supes did against hulk and how glads did, whom kg insists is the same as pre-c supes. no one is the same. comics are too 'real' now, and pre-c supes did many 'silly', illogical and 'unreal' things.

never once, anywhere, said thor wouldn't hit him. thor certainly is more than capable of ko'ing supes, and he would at times. at others, supes' superior speed and strength would be enough for him to get in close, stun thor with point blank heat vision, perhaps straight into thor's eyes, then, once he's blinded, pummel him, make thor drop his hammer, USE thor's hammer . . . you think thor would win - cool. i don't disagree. i just think supes (for what, the 1000th time) would win his share.

I see Thor winning more often than not

Magic weakness + Thor power > Superman Strength and his mach speeds

Superman wins. Thor is to slow and Supes won't give Thor the chance to use his magic mutiple times while there fighting. And Supes is light speed. 😄

Originally posted by dvampire
Superman wins. Thor is to slow and Supes won't give Thor the chance to use his magic mutiple times while there fighting. And Supes is light speed. 😄

nope not even close

Originally posted by kgkg
spes is light speed
😆

nope not even close

He escaped a black hole, light is the only thing that can do that. 🙂

I lost track of how fast Superman should be post crisis now. Some writters said they didnt liked to portrain him faster than light, others that he was "only" faster than sound. Gezz.

"Thor is to slow and Supes won't give Thor the chance to use his magic mutiple times while there fighting. And Supes is light speed. "

Thor can fly FTL too with his hammer. He has enchanted combat reflexes like Supes.

Actually heat is the only thing that escapes a black hole, light does not 😄

Supes wins 😄

He is stronger, faster and more durable 😄

Keep the faith 🤘

Stay Whirly 😄

Originally posted by dvampire
He escaped a black hole, light is the only thing that can do that. 🙂

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Supes wins 😄

He is stronger, faster and more durable 😄

Keep the faith 🤘

Stay Whirly 😄

Thor can survive in the Sun. Superman is slightly stronger, at best. Thor has reflexes that are just as good as Superman's.

He also has magic on his side, and better fighting ability. Thor wins.

Originally posted by supremthor
light cant escape a black hole.

You're right. Only heat can escape.

When did Supes escape a black hole?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thor can survive in the Sun.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

When did Supes escape a black hole?

Originally posted by kgkg
spes is light speed
😆

nope not even close

Originally posted by supremthor
no very close. flash said superman was able to move at 99% the speed of light in one of his comics.

I think you mean Impulse.

Superman is always said by Flash etc. to be moving at these speeds, but the narration always says he's moving way slower. Either he's ultra-inconsistent, of Flash is exaggerating.

Regardless, he doesn't fight at the same speed he flies at, or anywhere close.

but thor wins 5.5/10

Originally posted by supremthor
but thor wins 5.5/10

In my opinion, he wins more often, but I'm glad to hear your's. 😉

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

When did Supes escape a black hole?